FP: Should 31 be the new 51 y/n

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^^^^^

brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6U-TGahwvs

brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

why are we proposing a solution to a problem we do not have, is the question

― k3vin k., Monday, 30 October 2017 02:57 (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There aren't any fp's. Try to keep up.

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 03:42 (one year ago) Permalink

I just flag the really bad posts with each of my 27 sock accounts

mh, Monday, 30 October 2017 04:56 (one year ago) Permalink

I suspect this poll was prompted by a particular poster who may have been 51'ed under a different username, but came back and is still a frequent irritant. My sense is that if any poster rises to the level of unacceptability requiring ejection, ILX will muster the necessary 51 FPs.

I personally doubt that there have been many posters who accumulated more than 31 active FPs who did not also pass the 51 threshold soon afterwards, but that is merely a guess on my part. Picking the 'right' number is not a science, but a fairly inexact heuristic. I'm fine with any number, as long as it is high enough that it cannot be driven by relatively small cabal. 51 has been adequately functional so far, imo.

I also note that 51 has deeply entered ILX lore. Changing it would render that lore illegible.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 October 2017 05:19 (one year ago) Permalink

52

j., Monday, 30 October 2017 05:29 (one year ago) Permalink

the 51'd should be redirected to a false ilx full of bots

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 October 2017 06:57 (one year ago) Permalink

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Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2017 07:02 (one year ago) Permalink

stet would probably add a tell to be sure that he himself never got trapped in fake ilx. something subtle but absurd. like mordy bot always posting about jenga in the boardgame thread.

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 October 2017 07:36 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixL_jmGRDXY

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 October 2017 07:54 (one year ago) Permalink

you can't just rename Area 51

StanM, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:05 (one year ago) Permalink

BTW, the admin log is now flashing pink.

Mark G, Monday, 30 October 2017 08:09 (one year ago) Permalink

you say this like it's a bad thing

k3vin k., Monday, 30 October 2017 09:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Thing is, on the rare occasions that a particularly obnoxious or abusive/racist/homophobic new poster appears, they tend to attract 10-20 FPs almost immediately which alerts us to them. Most of the time it's so obvious that we just ban them straight away, in the same way we would if we came across those posts by reading a thread normally.

As far as it goes for ILX regulars, the high threshold is kind of the point. You need to piss off a lot of people to get to that point. A lower threshold would be more open to abuse and as Kevin K says it's a solution to a problem we don't really have right now.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 October 2017 09:41 (one year ago) Permalink

manufactured pop 'music' sucks, where's the fuckin rock

imago, Monday, 30 October 2017 10:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Capitalism is nuff fab.

calzino, Monday, 30 October 2017 10:12 (one year ago) Permalink

donald trump is just a guy doing his best

imago, Monday, 30 October 2017 10:19 (one year ago) Permalink

pizza is best left to the British

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2017 11:05 (one year ago) Permalink

ok, this started as a flaggable posts riff, but seriously, wouldn't the true ilx equivalent of likes/+1s be a tick.jpg link and an invisible tally of clicks until a post hits 51 and is then auto added to an aggregated excelsior page.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:26 (one year ago) Permalink

You can like an unfunny post tbf

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 11:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I only FP for dumb revives. Revive with caution my Gs.

nashwan, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:32 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll take the risk

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 11:40 (one year ago) Permalink

The football forum I post to has an interesting system that isn't without its flaws. There's a Like button AND a LOL button, as well as a FP button. Three buttons for every post! The biggest difficulty comes with LOLs, which are handed out both for genuinely humorous content and embarrassing nonsense. I've thought maybe a fourth button - LOL @ - to differentiate from 'LOL with' - and perhaps a fifth, a sort of 'super like', which you can dole out thrice per week to distinguish full hero-worship from the posts you vaguely concur with. A sixth button would be a 'dislike' - not as strong as a flag but nonetheless admonitory in nature. Other buttons for gratitude, shock or incomprehension suggest themselves. It really is limitless when you think about it

imago, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:52 (one year ago) Permalink

a good system would be one where -- right below where someone posts -- there's a space where you can put a follow-up comment, perhaps of approval or derision, perhaps a further joke, perhaps suggesting the thread steer more towards your own interests

mark s, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:55 (one year ago) Permalink

that is sedition and you belong in a facility

imago, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:57 (one year ago) Permalink

instead of having options for how ppl express themselves, you want to force them to communicate in a box

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 October 2017 12:04 (one year ago) Permalink

what about if all threads were polls and answers could only be expressed as sub-polls?

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 October 2017 12:07 (one year ago) Permalink

I would like to cast my vote for a textless, all-button ILX.

Winky Carrothers (Old Lunch), Monday, 30 October 2017 12:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I believe it’s called a field, technically
Xp

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 October 2017 12:09 (one year ago) Permalink

appreciate the explanation

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 October 2017 12:14 (one year ago) Permalink

appreciate the rewording of my joke

mark s, Monday, 30 October 2017 12:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Something like FP has to scale, I think. After all, with a million posters 51 would be achieved too often to be useful, and with 50 posters it wouldn't be reached. If we have fewer posters now maybe it should be scaled down; I don't really care either way. I've only ever clicked the FP button by mistake on my phone, as far as I recall.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 30 October 2017 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

who says humanity ever scaled

j., Monday, 30 October 2017 15:56 (one year ago) Permalink

greyscale punishment for 51 seems just

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 October 2017 15:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Fewer posters since when? When was FP introduced?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 30 October 2017 16:08 (one year ago) Permalink

i thought pissing off each other was our raison d'etre

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 October 2017 16:11 (one year ago) Permalink

oh off? whew

nashwan, Monday, 30 October 2017 16:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I seriously doubt we have fewer posters due to FP/SB or anything like that. It is more likely its because we aged out, and also a lot of women left ILX for reasons I'm sure no one needs to go over for the enth time.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Going over things for the enth time ... on ILX ... where there are currently 200+ new posts arguing about the merits of Tusk vs. The White Album?

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 04:49 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah but this time someone is totally wrong about the white album

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 04:54 (one year ago) Permalink

i never thought a late night bump about the white album being scary would cause so much tsuris

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:03 (one year ago) Permalink

scary is not a word I associate with anything about the Beatles, except for maybe the thought of contracting diseases from their rotting corpses

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:05 (one year ago) Permalink

LBI

in lieu of lowering the cap, how about this: tell us who you want to banned, and i will FP them. sure many others would be happy to oblige

flopson, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:08 (one year ago) Permalink

flappy w/ the surprise yiddish drop

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:03 (one year ago) Permalink

killfile/ block poster on zing takes the edge off ilx’s worst (tusk white album thread is Swiss cheese chez moi) but maybe The System could auto fp the fools we’ve blocked since as it is I have to actually look at the trash to fp it o/w I’m not doing my part to purify ilx

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:26 (one year ago) Permalink

The System could auto fp the fools we’ve blocked

Seems like there would be plenty of reasons to block someone you didn't particularly care for that don't rise to bannable offenses. The point of blocking/killfiling is precisely that it is personal to oneself and tailors ILX to your own predilections. Banning is universal and affects all ILX.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah to FP and ban people is pretty serious & really only extends to personal attacks, thread stalking, and obviously if they're being openly racist/homophobic/misogynistic/etc etc etc.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:37 (one year ago) Permalink

I was going to say that people who post without actually engaging with others is the worst, but maybe the worst people just have every other poster killfiled

mh, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:38 (one year ago) Permalink

do you mean ignoring people or not engaging with people in good faith conversation?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah to FP and ban people is pretty serious & really only extends to personal attacks, thread stalking, and obviously if they're being openly racist/homophobic/misogynistic/etc etc etc.

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:37 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100% wrong

Modban for that

Read the histories son

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 18:42 (one year ago) Permalink

and how much is 'my posting style' the issue vs 'my ideological pov'

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:18 (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ask them i guess

flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:30 (four months ago) Permalink

insofar as defensiveness is an ideology they're indistinguishable

imago, Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:33 (four months ago) Permalink

hasn't sacked ours yet and I literally can't imagine how yours is any worse

well, last time it was because we had just abolished conscription, withdrawn from Vietnam, made university free, abolished the death penalty, released Papua New Guinea to be an independent country under the UN, brought in universal health care, instituted laws against racial discrimination, returned land rights to native people, set up arts grants and community radio licences, lowered the voting age to 18, allowed our third largest state-equivalent to elect senators, federally funded the connecting of homes to sewers, cut international tariffs, funded state schools, allowed single mothers to receive welfare for the first time, and brought in both equal pay and a minimum wage for women.

so I guess you guys still have a way to sink before Betty needs to step in again, yeah

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:53 (four months ago) Permalink

Good to see sarahell

I like deej, Katherine and turrican - in fighting is sad but what can you do

Ross, Monday, 20 August 2018 12:55 (three months ago) Permalink

would sack our government again

be careful what you wish for, folks

▫◌▫ (sic), Friday, 24 August 2018 20:31 (three months ago) Permalink


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