defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

"a bunch of frustrated Bernie Bro friends"

(psst, stopped reading here)

this sensationalist bullshit wasn't fact-checked with anybody who actually works in the field - but as soon as they got some scans on russian hackers targeting election systems, they immediately went to their IC buddies for corroboration.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/19/voice-recognition-technology-nsa/

fuck the intercept, fuck omidyar, and fuck greenwald. the entire first look media enterprise is a unprincipled tabloid trash fire that makes the new york times editorial page and chris cillizza smell like fucking roses

do you mean the NYT op-ed page

yeah, being serious, I'll take that part back - nyt editorials are implicated in hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths so, fine, first look media is superior

Dude shared an article from The Federalist today.

need more data

With an open mind, please read @MZHemingway on how the US media's mindless, shocking acceptance of every claim from "Hamilton68" - a group formed by Bill Kristol, CIA officials & various neocons - has deceived millions w/false stories. It's a scandal https://t.co/Gn6w398cVA

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 22, 2018

here's the piece in question if we're interested in more than just gotcha stuff - which on this thread ilx basically isn't

best things about the piece: has a link to a video of Adrien Chen appearing on MSNBC and a link to this Masha Gessen article.

I was looking for support in the article for the claim that Hamilton 68 has deceived millions , but I didn’t see it.

Would have been better to just link the Gessen piece (although there’s some super questionable cherry picking in that) instead of effectively endorsing someone’s argument that Nunes should be taken at face value. Chen was good on Hayes but his pints probably shouldn’t be appropriated for the goal post shifting of others.

Reading the piece with an open mind. First line: Last week, Laurence Tribe suggested, without evidence, that a plane crash in Russia was related to fallout from the Russian dossier operation orchestrated and funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign. Um no, we're done here. What the fuck is wrong with this dude?

you have fucking evidence for everything, dontcha, Fuckerik?

but lol you do have an open mind (I can feel the draft from here)

What on earth is wrong with you to?

here doll

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier#cite_note-WaPo-paidresearch-14

I was gonna say, if that's the controversial part, I thought that was pretty well known?

I think Fred took issue with the linkage to a plane crash in Russia without evidence

IIRC Tribe tweeted about the crash that supposedly killed a political enemy, who it turned out wasn't on the plane? (I can't recall if he explicitly suggested it was tied to the dossier's contents.)

Holy christ that anyone on here would be okay with calling this 'the Russian dossier operation orchestrated and funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign'

That's like Benghazi-level right wing conspiracy language.

buuuut it's troo?

so ja i'm OK with it

the gessen piece is worthy of some discussion on a different thread imho

I think I already linked it.....somewhere, at some point. all these threads move fast.

Morbs, you're insane. It's not true, it's what the Devin Nunes spin says. Are you watching Fox News all day?

Wait, are we going along with the implication that that alone makes the dossier info less credible or just saying it’s fair to acknowledge it began as oppo research?

The latter.

yes

F, get some help

She is clearly not saying the latter. She is calling the whole Russian investigation fallout from the dossier, which is the Nunes bullshit.

"Hillary Clinton is a lizard person who didn't visit Wisconsin"
"Holy shit, what's wrong with this idiot?"
"What?!?!?! She didn't visit Wisconsin. FUCKYOUFUCKYOURAKJSBRÅOAUBÅTGBÅ"

She refers to it as “the discredited dossier” at one point.

presumably GG is not endorsing every single assertion by Ms Hemingway

but really guys keep yr trashfire going

That’s true. Shouldn’t discount possibility that he only the part of the article that mentioned him.

morbs your favorite crew is shilling for a hack opportunist, how u feel??

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/22/emilys-list-laura-moser-texas-congress/

pretty good debate

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/21/video-glenn-greenwald-and-james-risen-debate-the-trumprussia-investigation/

tetra, i don't even care to click, and my fave crew is the '73 Mets

actually dude, most anything that pisses off EMILY's List is fine with me

One of his best moments

Yes, I do. And I'd be happy to bet you any amount of money that he will.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 18, 2018

would find greenwald perfectly defensible if he never tweeted

most of his tweets are fine tbh

Amazing. Apparently his defense is that he confused him with his father. Believing that Ron Paul would react any differently is just as stupid, though.

He probably is a libertarian more than a progressive.

good to know, exactly what i was talking about

dp

xp***

doing great today lol

Xpost Yeah without question he’d vote for Rand over Bernie Sanders

I...don't actually think that's true

It's absolutely true that he wears cargo shorts, flip-flops, and his house stinks of dog.

He probably is a libertarian more than a progressive.

― Frederik B, 24. april 2018 19:00 (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah without question he’d vote for Rand over Bernie Sanders

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, 24. april 2018 19:15 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I...don't actually think that's true

― Simon H., 24. april 2018 19:16 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, because Rand ain't Ron

does Nerdstrom report to gabbneb at the DNC?

i don't actually know what Greenwald's politics are but his husband is a socialist politician

i quit reading GG more than a year ago and he is very annoying on a lot of subjects, but he is not a libertarian, and it's "stupid" (to borrow the only adjective fred appears to know) to keep saying that