RFI: Yellow Magic Orchestra

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need some context

clouds, Thursday, 26 October 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

It's hanging in the Gare de Paris-Est I believe. There's an exhibition at the Centre Pompidou Metz about contemporary Japanese design.

http://www.centrepompidou-metz.fr/en/japanorama-new-vision-art-1970

MaresNest, Friday, 27 October 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is a slightly bizarre debate. Kraftwerk weren’t total noobs—Hütter and Schneider went to music school—but they weren’t Can or YMO either in the sense that they weren’t already somewhat established as players and composers by the time they got together. Compositionally and performance-wise, their early stuff (Tone Float, I and II, Ralf and Florian) reflects this.

That said, if you cannot hear an enormous (and wonderful) debt to Kraftwerk in a song like Insomnia from Solid State Survivor you have rocks between your ears.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

definitely - KW's fingerprints are all over SSS. their instrumental skill comes out on their other records though, particularly the live ones - Public Pressure has some really great performances on it, and I think the work they did on those Akiko Yano albums are top notch. I kinda wish they'd explored that side even more. Even now in a band like Metafive, it's kind of astounding how good a drummer YT still is, even though he (I assume) hasn't really played much in decades.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

Much of the very recent live work has seen YMO adopt a more straightforward “band” sound; the No Nukes 2012 album feels really live. And yes, Takahashi is an astonishing drummer.

bamboohouses, Thursday, 23 November 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link

YMO is amazing and Kraftwerk are a joke band

3×5, Thursday, 23 November 2017 04:25 (six years ago) link

YMO are both those things

frogbs, Thursday, 23 November 2017 04:32 (six years ago) link

i like this youtube comp of 1980-era recordings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxRQNWiVW4

SIDE 1
0:00 - 1. School of Thought [Sakamoto]
4:14 - 2. Tighten Up (Japanese Gentlemen Stand Up Please!) [Bell]
7:56 - 3. Blue Colour Worker [Hosono]
12:28 - 4. Riot in Lagos [Sakamoto]
18:04 - 5. Citizens of Science [Sakamoto]
22:29 - 6. Bijin-Kyoshi at the Swimming School [Takahashi]

SIDE 2
26:40 - 7. Nice Age [Takahashi]
30:24 - 8. Multiplies [YMO/Bernstein]
33:20 - 9. Stop! in the Name of Love [Holland/Dozier/Holland]
36:35 - 10. Thatness and Thereness [Sakamoto]
39:47 - 11. The Core of Eden [Takahashi]
45:59 - 12. The End of Asia [Sakamoto]
47:32 - 13. Here We Go Again (Tighten Up) [Bell]

Tracks 1, 3, 6, 9 and 11 originally from 'Murdered by the Music' by Yukihiro Takahashi.
Tracks 2, 5, 7, 8, 12 and 13 originally from 'X∞ Multiplies' by Yellow Magic Orchestra.
Tracks 4 and 10 originally from 'B-2 Unit' by Ryuichi Sakamoto.

i like this because i always wish X∞ Multiplies was a full album, without all the comedy sketches, and this kind of feels like that.

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 November 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

that's nice, always felt like Xoo Multiplies & Murdered by the Music were companion albums

frogbs, Saturday, 25 November 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link

This may have been shared out elsewhere, but it's ace -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn5biK_zfC4

MaresNest, Saturday, 25 November 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

sunday's soundtrack:

Live all day with a day of Haruomi Hosono / YMO dedicated radio - tune in at https://t.co/Fu5KNRhKIi pic.twitter.com/rQJkwnKLL1

— NTS Radio (@NTSlive) November 26, 2017

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

https://www.nts.live/schedule/2

A 15-hour tribute to the influential Japanese songwriter, Haruomi Hosono, known from his prolific productions and work in the electronic trio, Yellow Magic Orchestra. Expect mixes exploring his career and adjacent music from NTS' most dedicated Hosono-philes.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

looks like visible cloaks is going to be doing a YMO/hosono set a couple hours from now, and then light in the attic a little bit later

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

one more thing, sorry. i really liked a song that came on near the end of jen monroe's set, and shazam revealed that it's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmScAoPrg_I

"zoot kook", from eating pleasure (1980) produced by hosono. the album also features "drip dry eyes", coming out a year earlier than takahashi's version on Neuromantic.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

Any possibility this can be listened to at a later time? The livestream/podcast whathaveyou thing that rocked your world today?

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure! i hope so, because i'm going on my 6th hour of listening and it's been phenomenal. perfect sunday afternoon music.
i accidentally recorded a 2 hour portion of it earlier this afternoon (i meant to record just a certain bit but forgot to hit stop), so at least i'll have part of it!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

Would love to hear it! (it's bordering on Monday morning here, still perfect)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

there's still about an hour left! i kind of have things i need to get going on but i feel the need to stick it through til the end

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 November 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Easy for you to say, I'm staring a four hour night max in the eye here! Stick to it, and I'm sure it will surface somewhere. But it sounds like something that's hard to come by for relatively illiterate YMG and related stuff peoples like me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 27 November 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

good news, it looks like it'll all be archived on NTS either monday or tuesday!

Karl Malone, Monday, 27 November 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

Aw yes!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 27 November 2017 08:25 (six years ago) link

The NTS Hosono Day shows are now all up on Mixcloud (where NTS archive everything) - I've made a playlist here:
https://www.mixcloud.com/mnida/playlists/nts-hosono-day/

(I *think* this was the broadcast order - I can't seem to find the schedule online - but do let me know if there's any corrections!)

bamboohouses, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

oh man, that's great, thank you! the only thing i might suggest is adding the artists/tracktitles for each show, at least the ones that were made available (unless you already did and i didn't see them?).

the playlists for each show are at https://www.nts.live/recently-added
some of the shows didn't include a playlist (like the japan blues set: https://www.nts.live/shows/haruomi-hosono-ymo-day/episodes/japan-blues-hosono-26th-november-2017)
but others did, like the visible clouds set (https://www.nts.live/shows/haruomi-hosono-ymo-day/episodes/visible-cloaks-hosono-26th-november-2017)

Karl Malone, Monday, 27 November 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

No worries - although I didn’t actually upload these to Mixcloud, NTS use it to archive everything, I just assembled the playlist so everything’s in one place. So am afraid I can’t add track lists to the uploads - although doesn’t Mixcloud sometimes attempt to auto identify tracks?

The Visible Cloaks mix is terrific, as you’d expect.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link

I had a listen to that imaginary 1980 YMO album linked upthread and it's terrific - flows really nicely and all the tracks feel of a piece, which does make you realise how the later YMO albums were effectively collections of solo tracks.

Also interesting how closely Takahashi's solo stuff tracks whatever YMO were doing at the time. His work is less routinely praised than Hosono or Sakamoto, but you get the impression he was a seriously dominant force in YMO sessions.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Takahashi's solo stuff is all really well done, though perhaps a bit too much in the new romantic vein for me a lot of times. I don't see him as any less of a force in that band than the others, especially after the first album or two

Dominique, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

good time to mention that one of my favorite YT tracks is finally on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vBXABbsFE&feature=youtu.be&t=25m26s

pretty easy to figure out what "influenced" this but I still love it

I do buy the idea that Takahashi was the dominant force in the group - despite his many diversions into AOR and Burt Bacharach-inspired schmaltz he's always had the technopop thing in his back pocket

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

which track is it? (the youtube video is down, at least for me)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

"00" from The Dearest Fool

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

oh cool, thanks! i haven't heard anything from that album. there is a lot to go through.

while googling for dearest fool i ran across a feature on solo material (http://mostly-retro.com/2017/01/22/ymo-101-the-solo-records/), which has probably been linked here before. part of a 6-part YMO series

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

oh man, that looks like a fun read. I think he nails it with Takahashi's discography - every single YT album I've heard has at least one killer track but as a whole those mid-80's/early 90's discs were pretty bad. from '95 on I think everything he did is worth hearing. there's a live album from '98 that I'm particularly fond of.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Ah no --- THIS is the site for info on YMO and YMO related musics. Hasn't been updated in almost a decade but I think it's still essential information. http://artcontext.com/artskool/jem/index.html

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

oh yeah, that's definitely the source! it's much comprehensive, and i've browsed through there many a time. i just linked to the mostly-retro set of pieces for a different angle on it.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

I came to that site a long time ago for information on the group and had no clue about any of the artists on the sidebar, outside of Polysics. A decade later I think I know nearly all of them, outside of some of the *real* obscure ones. Awesome website.

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

xp wow thanks bamboohouses for putting that together

Brakhage, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link

Not sure when this happened, but the YMO back catalogue has popped up on both Spotify and Apple Music here in the UK - they’ve never been on any streaming services over here previously.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link

!!!! Same in the us!!!

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

It happened about two/three weeks back.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

why was i not notified?

Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Thursday, 30 November 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link

I did actually post it up in the 'bands absent from Spotify' thread, should have done here too, sry :)

MaresNest, Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aH501zC0qk

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

i'm once again listening to the NTS mixes of hosono and YMO-related material that were discussed upthread. i really liked this one, written by Hosono, which comes in about half of the way through Light in the Attic's mix:

https://www.nts.live/shows/haruomi-hosono-ymo-day

it's fairly pleasant but run of the mill Buggles style new wave until the chorus kicks in, which is just heavenly

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

oops, wrong link. meant to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD3J6NIe3-k

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

probably a weird comp but it reminds me of the giddy feeling i would have a kid when listening to manic monday

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

as a kid. i haven't had any given birth to any children via the bangles (yet)

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Iz2XAHV.png

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 December 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

"Technopolis"really is a masterful piece of music. Packed with melodies, funky, weird, tense, exciting, elegant...

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link

And I guess really it's very "triumphant" sounding, overall

brimstead, Friday, 15 December 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link

this Akiko Yano tune is so gorgeous - I apparently 5-starred it on iTunes long ago but never gave it another listen. oops!!

https://soundcloud.com/technopop2000/akiko-yano-assembly-1984-2016-remaster

while fruitlessly searching for it on Youtube I came across this, a duet with her and Hiromi Uehara - never seen Hiromi live, she's such a beast - amazing that Akiko can keep up with her at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKQ3Hr5INTA

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link


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