Okkervil River

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...perfect for every fall, it turns out. I picked up the 2xLP early this year; the fourth side features a sidelong field recording (including a patch of rain), which is a nice alternative to the "fourth side etching" most bands are doing these days.

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 October 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

3 weeks out and i'm still listening to "Mary On a Wave" on repeat, this is the best song of his career

― ciderpress, Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:05 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still stand by this

ciderpress, Thursday, 26 October 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link

not sure if I'd go that far but it is a blissful thing

Simon H., Thursday, 26 October 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

couldn't agree more

niels, Thursday, 26 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiOJBGjnV04

niels, Monday, 12 February 2018 10:40 (six years ago) link

hmmmmmmm

Simon H., Monday, 12 February 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link

while it's sonically completely different from Away, which imo was a masterpiece, I think the songwriting seems on point

niels, Monday, 12 February 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link

dang i figured Away was gonna be a Final Album for the OR bandname

ciderpress, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7bMUsOu7w

Not exactly my taste but oh well, in many ways finding a new direction is a sign of life - long live Okkervil River

niels, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

dad rock is cool in 2018

ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3YIoW_2zs

niels, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link

I liked Away a lot, and this is better than anything on Away

Evan R, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

ooof I completely disagree, this is diminishing returns on the "sad tales of showbiz" Sheff vein of songwriting (despite the autobiographical addition)

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link

this is better than anything on Away

https://i.imgur.com/sSgATjF.gif

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

it's got a good melody though

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

Sheff's "inspirations" playlist for this record features "Let's Go Out Tonight" which is not a huge surprise but unfortunately there's just a little too much going on for full-on Blue Nile worship

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

his is diminishing returns on the "sad tales of showbiz" Sheff vein of songwriting

Agree that he'd run that muse into the ground. But he finds the emotional core of each of these stories, and I am very there for those turns of phrase

Evan R, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

i like the crispness and glossiness of the production. i wish that carried through to... the other two songs i've heard from this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

though on revisit i like what's going on in "pulled up the ribbon" too. "don't move back to la" is borrrrrrring in a way that away never was

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

can't imagine he'll ever top Away for me though i think i thought the same thing about Black Sheep Boy a decade earlier and then my tastes changed

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link

I appreciate that Sheff is both restless and prolific even if the results have been wildly variable in quality for the last few records. That's a lot more than I can say for basically all the other big indie singer-songwriters who came up around the same time.

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

also I had no idea they covered "Candle on the Water" for the nu-Pete's Dragon OST. That must have been a nice little check.

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

So this compelled me to listen to the album, and there are times when it feels like a worthwhile sequel to Away but it loses the plot something awful in its second half. Lots of wild swings; tries to do way too much and breaks the spell, which I guess is the story of post-Stage Names Okkervil River. It's gonna be worth excavating though; there are a few knockout songs ("Love Somebody" and esp "Pulled Up The Ribbon") and even some of the long winded songs have these little moments of bliss scattered throughout them.

Evan R, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

this is my favorite of the singles so far, love the dizzy melancholy vibe

diminishing returns on the "sad tales of showbiz"
otm but imo the autobiographical addition really lifts it

Simon, where's that inspiration playlist?

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 09:37 (six years ago) link

nice!

niels, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link

Also, someone asked me to make a representative CD80 and it's really tough! This is the best I could manage

https://open.spotify.com/user/suckerblues/playlist/4i8gfO0gt8LEFXnFlkpBpY?si=vTvBNF7mTXiC32Rfvxc_aw

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link

Can't think of another band that can turn me both on and off as hard as OR

thots and players (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

I just realized both this record and the new Manics explicitly reference Caitlin Thomas

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link

nice coincidence, i listened to away yesterday during a very long commute. that could be a favorite album of all time for me in a few years. i can think of very few records that approach it in mood and ambition (the great american music club records come to mind and not much else).
i also kinda think van morrison should cover at least half of it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 April 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

Halfway through the new one and it's gonna take a bunch of listens to sort out whether the sonic pivot works or not. the Blue Nile influence is definitely palpable and "Love Somebody" even evokes the 1975 a bit, but I don't think I like Sheff writing in this deliberately broader lyrical mode. "Pulled up the Ribbon" has grown on me a lot though, their best single in a long time.

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

Album definitely feels like work in away that Away never did. Also a classic case of "songs don't justify their length" syndrome

Evan R, Thursday, 19 April 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link

yeah it's a really weird record. I liked a few tracks on first contact but like with Silver Gymnasium Sheff seems to be chasing down a set of ideas that don't play to his strengths

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

otm and otm

niels, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

can one of you journalists call Will and ask how he cleared the Kinks riff?

niels, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

Sheff's "inspirations" playlist for this record features "Let's Go Out Tonight" which is not a huge surprise but unfortunately there's just a little too much going on for full-on Blue Nile worship

― Simon H., Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:29 AM (two days ago

*clicks furiously*

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

which Kinks riff?

k3vin the BN influence is only really felt on maybe 3-4 tracks, fair warning

Simon H., Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

haha I am an okkervil fan at baseline so it's not strictly necessary, was just making an in character post

k3vin k., Thursday, 19 April 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

The 'Waterloo Sunset' riff is in the new song.

xp

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 19 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

"Famous Tracheotomies" is great, not least because while it references "Waterloo Sunset" structurally it most resembles "Celluloid Heroes."

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 21 April 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...
three weeks pass...

I've been so out of the Okkervil loop for the last ten+ years that I didn't even know so many albums had come out, but I decided to give the latest one a spin and it's quite nice. Never thought I'd say that in 2018.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

The new one has its moments but, as discussed upthread, Away is a bit of a secret masterpiece.

Simon H., Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

I really like "love somebody"

k3vin k., Saturday, 2 June 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

^ Yeah, that's the one that really stuck out for me.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 2 June 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

great song, he talks a bit about it here https://uproxx.com/music/okkervil-river-interview-in-the-rainbow-rain-love-somebody-video/

album's a grower too, Sheff's such a humanist (reminds me of DFW, less mathematically rational, more spiritual)

niels, Sunday, 3 June 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link

yeah he seems like a good dude for sure

k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

New monthly live series and request tour this summer, one album per month. I actually really appreciate that it's a digital-only affair (there are too many boutique vinyl releases these days), even if the whole thing is a little steep for me.

First release has a gorgeous, glacial "For Real"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuI3rA0Odls

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

apropos of nothing, "The President's Dead" plays *very* differently these days. Try it!

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link


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