The Man That Ruined Doctor Who

For the dads

Not a problem in and of itself, but poor Nicola. In The Two Doctors, her bikini got cut back so far "for the dads" it was unwearable, which is why she wears her jacket throught.

Hmmm, she seems to have managed alright at other times...

Unbelievable (and tbh hilarious) "reveal" at 0.45

Are annoying companions/characters the fault of the actor or the scriptwriter?

A bit of both, probably.

Have we done a "worst companion" poll? (Adric vs Mel FITE)

A bit of both, probably.

TV writers will tweak dialogue and even plot to fit the vibes they get off of an actor. If s/he's kind of a dud, the character as written will tend to drift that way too.

Watched "Dragonfire", and when you have both Ace & Mel onscreen, it's like night & fucking day, isn't it? As mentioned a bit upthread, I don't know how much can be attributed different actor and character, but the contrast is so striking; two completely different levels of energy, vibe, and presence. Like, they differ by an order of magnitude or three.

Also, what's the "Cartmel Masterplan" I've seen referred to here & there?

also, sticking this one here:

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Cartmel Masterplan:

An attempt by Andrew Cartmel (script ed at the time), Ben Aaronavitch and Marc Platt to make the Doctor a mysterious and powerful character in his own story. Starts in Remembrance, where the Doctor refers to himself as "much more than a Time Lord" (and, in fact, in the Target version is more or less explicitly referred to as The Other - let's not bring Lungbarrow into this...) and is responsible for all the back story refs in the last two McCoy seasons.

See also the Doctor's grooming of Ace as a new Time Lord (hence all the Ace-heavy characterisation in the likes of Ghost Light) to show just how powerful he was in Marc Platt's unfilmed Ice Time.

In other news, Powells had a copy of Tymewrym: Genesys for twenty fuckin' bucks. I know its an out of print paperback, but good Christ...

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Many of the New Adventures will set you back a lot more than that. Unlike Genesys, some of them are worth it.

My 'Delta and the Bannermen' came early and I watched it this morning. I am now watching 'City of Death' in an attempt to erase it from my brain.

I'd forgotten just how woeful it really is - a series of barely comprehensible set-pieces forced together into almost a plot (even the production subs point out in ep 2 that you should "pay attention to this bit as it's the only time the plot turns up), a shoehorned comedy double act that you feel embarrassed for and some of the worst dialogue and acting in living memory. "Did he shoot you Doctor?" asks Mel at one point, when she was about a foot away from the Doctor at the time in the sidecar of the motorbike HE WAS DRIVING which you would think might make him having been shot A BIT FUCKING OBVIOUS.

And so, so many questions... how does the pod containing the new Princess get into the Bannermen ship they steal, giving they're not carrying it with them at any point? Where does Billy get the idea to drink the green syringe juice? More to the point, where in the name of the wee man do they come from? Delta isn't carrying them at any point before they become a plot issue. Are bees REALLY enraged by the sight of honey? Where did the Doctor's glasses come from, or go, since he's riding a bike the whole time? Is Delta's planet overrun or not? Who are these galactic police the Doctor threatens Gavrok with?

The extras are pretty poor, but are by far the best thing on the disc. Depressingly, probably the only really worthwhile thing on it is the trailer for The War Games. At least it's only a fortnight away...

Key of Marinus soon after - but don't blink, cos you'll miss the extras on that. Then Twin Dilemma, I believe. Unless it's this Dalek Warbox.

It's War Games, then Black Guardian then Marinus, with a release of Remembrance out of the Davros box somewhere in there too. Then Twin Dilemma which is, I think, the last properly announced and dated release.

Bloody hell, we did Black Guardian ages ago, I thought that was long out.

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/03/10/jn-t-the-life-and-scandalous-times-of-john-nathan-turner-review/

Shouldn't this thread title be "The Man Who Ruined Doctor Who"?

"Nerd Moans" wd cover it

speaking of

Also SWD appears in possibly the worst dalek story ever

bring Alan back here to fite about this