Star Trek Discovery: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

Next on Discovery: This is not your father's Star Trek time loop!

http://www.cbr.com/star-trek-discovery-theory-voq-ash/

Hope it's misdirection that Ash is played as kind of shady.

DISCO t-shirt is tempting.

disco! disco disco!

just what I have running through my head every time I see them in the shirts, although I'm trying to place the sample

https://shop.startrek.com/product/Z1CTSTK221/star-trek-discovery-disco-tshirt

there's something wrong with ash -- perhaps someone has put creatures in his body to make him tell lies? -- but him being voq would be enormously bullshit

liked this ep the best so far. probably not a coincidence that it didn't have much klingon content

could he be an augment virus descendant? I can't remember the timelines

I think that if A = V, then maybe they were able to download the real A's memories into V to better impersonate him.

liked this ep the best so far. probably not a coincidence that it didn't have much klingon content

co-sign!

Burnham mentioning "Constitution class, like The Enterprise" was so tantalizing. Will they show it? What will it look like?

Also, I'm probably not going to order that shirt because of the TM on Disco. Why would that be on the real shirt in the show???

it's most definitely not the shirt that was shown in the show

Constitution class Enterprise, according to Discovery:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/additional/large/dea2_enterprise_pizza_cutter_inuse.jpg

I have always hated how that thing has no guard to protect your hand!

This was a great episode. Extremely predictable - every plot beat involving the admiral I'd seen coming long before - but still great because of how well Isaacs is carrying this very, very flawed character. Now that the admiral's out of the way, looking forward to seeing the Starfleet sharks move in looking to depose Lorca

Agreed that Ash is way too easy, there's some reveal waiting there. He's not Voq but something is up

So, what, the Enterprise has athletic shirts that say E N T E R ?

While I'm gushing let me give a shoutout to the DP and the CGI folks, every frame of this show is exquisitely beautiful

first episode with ash was highly suspicious -- lorca plants a word in his vocabulary, gets it replayed by his captor, then concludes mudd is the spy because mudd was listening in? i think it was intentionally crap.

I like this guy's videos, he throws out some possible alternative theories about Ash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syOt1ntFBJs

So, what, the Enterprise has athletic shirts that say E N T E R ?

LOL, then DS9 would have D E E P S tees.

Would purchase

Despite its obvious inspiration from Edge of Tomorrow and "Cause and Effect" (and the fact that the episode ultimately ignores the rules it sets out in the beginning), this was a lot of fun. This show needs to maintain a light feel -- when it does dark, it's terrible.

we bailed halfway through the new episode

i just don’t enjoy it and i am getting more and more annoyed that they called it Star Trek when it has so little to do with that world ... i can’t get past it

hey hey ds9 already has canon in-universe merch

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/8/8a/Niners-uniforms.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070323010702&path-prefix=en

one-off mindfuck episode was a good choice around now. not a patch on tng's cause and effect though. kind of a shame that they have to make every episode a michael burnham episode, because the plot was centered around stamets.

didn't really need a grimdark device that makes you die in the most painful way possible.

do you still have to pay for the cbs app to watch this?

the lack of klingons improved the episode. none of that time-wasting trash.

ending monologue was awful. "sometimes you need to step out of the routine" uggggggh

you only have to pay cbs if you don't know about bittorrent

I love Tilly so much

I rewatched the last episode before the current one and paused for a second at the "eugenics experiment" line before realizing, holy shit, they just casually violated the Federation's directive on eugenics with this warp drive thing, for real. Can't wait to see some more fun freakouts from our resident spore man.

isco! disco disco!

just what I have running through my head every time I see them in the shirts, although I'm trying to place the sample

LOL I think I know the song you mean, at least I know it in a song with loads of horns and funky backbeat... maybe bronx dogs or something.

Why were people thinking Ash is suspicious? IDGI.

avalanches 'close to you'?

lorca's argument for ruling ash out as a spy is invalid
the name of voq's actor is not a real person

Also:

Voq was supposed to lose "everything," which being turned into Ash would satisfy, presumably.
We haven't seen Voq since Ash debuted.
We saw a Tribble in Lorca's ready room, and Tribbles are Klingon detectors -- Chekhov's Gun.

He knows Klingon fighting moves, was a captive of theirs for way too long, was clearly passing info from conversations to the Klingons. Voq was convinced to go train with the Klingon spies in a prior episode.

I think it’s just as likely the producers planted the fake actor details as a trail of suspicion and all those points are to throw us on a fake trail, though

Oh ok all this time I was "who tf is Voq". The albino klingon? I think that whole storyline kind of went over my head tbh haha. I find the horrible subtitle font hard to follow so I zone out.

they should have put it in Papyrus to really make me tune out

I'm definitely leaning towards this theory as misdirection at this point, the writers aren't satisfied with one twist, they're aiming for a twist on a twist.

His actions don’t really make sense to me in this last episode if he’s a secret Klingon. Surely no intel is worth more than the spore drive.

disco! disco disco!

just what I have running through my head every time I see them in the shirts, although I'm trying to place the sample

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyz6_UagA

xp long game, he'll show his stripes once he's arranged a few accidents and is commander of the science fleet

i just don’t enjoy it and i am getting more and more annoyed that they called it Star Trek when it has so little to do with that world ... i can’t get past it

Hey I enjoyed this last episode more than 90% of Voyager episodes that I've seen!

Yeah I thought the timeloop thing was very trek!

no Q people, thankfully

After some iffy episodes, the last three were all very solid. I'm enjoying watching the characters/acting/writing evolve and find their sweet spots. It's clearly better than Voyager and Enterprise at this point.

I am surprised that the last 2 episodes were made by the same crew that made the early ones. Much better -- but why did they make the early ones so badly?

They don't know how to depict an antagonistic alien race well?

Yeah the Klingons are the weak spot
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And I don't really like the production design... somehow it looks cheaper than TNG even though the effects are 6000% better.

But I'm really enjoying it and so are my Trekkie family. The supporting cast are growing on me - it's the "gang" sensibility that's the most important part of Star Trek to me, rather than the continuity or relative lightness/darkness/whatnot

Also the last two eps were fucking dorky as hell which is exactly how I like my Trek

remanding a dude who just killed you 60 times over to the custody of his prospective father-in-law is indeed dorky as hell

Even if it doesn't feel Star Trekky, I'm getting into it. A big part of the non-Trek feel is stuff like Tilly's convos with Michael and Michael's feelings toward Ash that previous shows never dealt with in the same way - it feels more modern and personal in that sense.

the klingons are tedious, lorca is insanely over-the-top and suru is mostly annoying (though i guess he gets his this weekend). i like tilly in small doses and stamets in slightly larger doses

i suppose i keep watching because burnham/martin-green are awesome, apart from the voiceovers/monologues. her predicament isn't entirely reasonable, but it's interesting, and i hope they don't wreck it

Tilly is awful. xoxo

If we really do get a season 2, I might revisit this.