itt: non-english-language netflix series you recommend (or not) and commentary thereon

SPIRAL was on UK TV in the noir slot, and I liked the little bit I watched but I missed too much of the start to get properly embedded.

MAR DE PLÁSTICO is kind of boring, also the chiselled cop who's the lead is like a bland pierce brosnan mini-me

ok it just woke up a bit -- murder leads to nasty racial tension in a southern spanish town -- but the lead cop fights off 20 ppl like he's batman, that's the boring bit

seriously - just watch "Mafiosa" on CH4/Walter Presents ..
so good.
S1 was ok despite the presence of some over acting, but things really improved from S2 onwards.

season 2 of Okkupert and 3 of Gomorrah - hurry up!

where are you watching gomorrah?

from torrent sites, always. I work on the flawed presumption that if the torrents have subtitled versions of a Euro series, then it must be on Netflix.

haha yes it's available via amazon but not amazon prime (which i do pay for) so i guess that's why it's subtitled -- so i can stump up some more when i'm feeling flush

Spiral (S2 and S3 especially) is super good

Method is up now (at least in the UK). Based on the first episode it seems like the synthesis of every other loose-cannon-profiler-with-personal-demons cop show. I’ll stick with it though. Khabensky is usually good.

I just watched the first episode of the South Korean procedural Stranger. Some of the acting/exposition was way over the top (A string of surprise witnesses, each more surprising than the last!)but it was strangely compelling.

At the more serious end of the scale, the French sky show the Bureau on amazon prime was excellent, easily putting to shame the similar stuff I've seen from the BBC recently.

previously mentioned midnight diner + hibana: spark is decent too, from a novel by matayoshi naoki that won the akutagawa prize, about a struggling manzai duo who try to break into the world of japanese standup.

I finished Method and though it seals liberally from The Bridge, Sherlock, Dexter, Nikita, and pretty much every other crime show of the last two decades, it ends up being pretty great. The tone is all over the place at the start but it settles into an OTT nihilist bleakness that would be difficult to get away with without such good leads. It’s completely ludicrous, pitch-black and Problematic in a number of ways but Konstantin Khabensky and Paulina Andreeva pull it through somehow.

I think there must have been some legal action threatened wrt plagiarism as the producer of Dexter is credited as one of the creators. It’s vastly better though.

Terrace House: Boys and Girls is the only answer to this.

just started THE METHOD and also APACHES (which literally has *record scratch* "my name is miguel, you're wondering how i got here" as its kicker)

just finished WITNESSES s2 (on bb4 rather than netflix) -- which was colossally silly with a handful of half-realised ideas

think APACHES is going to be garbage, so far (6 minutes in) there's been a double flashback and then a flash forward

I loved Au Service de la France and have been eagerly awaiting S2 for some time now.

Spiral is back on BBC4 this week, i think.

On an (almost) completely different note, i found the first season of Call My Agent / Dix Pour Cent quite charming and am pleased that the second is now up on Netflix. It's a fairly gentle comedy with French stars (including Audrey Fleurot) playing fictionalised versions of themselves. Adjani and Binoche are apparently in S2.

That looks like something I need to see.

Spiral is back on BBC4 this week, i think.

whaaaaaaaa

anyone watch dad of light yet

Xp, season six starts on the 30th!

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Terrace House: Boys and Girls is the only answer to this.

― Yerac, Monday, December 18, 2017 12:28 PM (two days ago) Bookmark]

aloha state starts getting wild in the later parts

Yeah I watched Aloha State first because I was living in Oahu while they were filming it, but the Tokyo one is overall better. There were some serious duds on Aloha State.

Two episodes into La Mante and...it’s not good. Cheapo copycat serial killer drama though Carol Bouquet obviously elevates it.

Dark looks good after one episode. Shades of Donnie Darko and the unfortunate comparison's gonna be to stranger things but it looks suitably creepy. Had to switch off the dubbing after like 5 mins ugh it was bad.

Eight episodes into Dark and the plot still hasn't completely fallen apart yet so that's good I guess. Compared to the bright consumerist Germany of Deutschland 83, the 80s we see here is dull and rainy and still looks like the 60s or 70s. Pity the characters are such non-entities.

Not a series but we watched An Off-Day Game, a Malayalam art film that Netflix is carrying for some reason (with subtitles) and thought it was great. For a fairly low-budget film, the shots are gorgeous and the story is brutal but reveals itself gradually. Basically, it's about four middle-aged guys who get drunk on an election day [which are holidays in Kerala] and the way their dark sides are progressively revealed in the way they treat each other. It probably helps to have a basic understanding of Kerala politics and Indian caste and colour prejudices and discrimination. (Broadly, the two main political coalitions are a coalition led by the Communists who are probably the most anti-caste party and a Congress-led coalition who would be centre-left by mainstream Indian standards but function as the more right-wing side in the context of Kerala.)

There’s a dystopian Brazilian thing, name is something like SIX PERCENT, that I didn’t see mentioned yet which I watched a little of once, wasn’t compelled enough to keep watching.

no hype yet for THE SWEET TOOTH SALARYMAN?

http://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/qeWRJXU.jpg

Pity the characters are such non-entities.

Yeah the actors/acting doesnt sparkle much, but I'll give it a go.

no hype yet for THE SWEET TOOTH SALARYMAN?

― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Saturday, 30 December 2017 3:11 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mentioned it on the other Netflix thread. It’s a fun show and inspired me ordering anmitsu in Tokyo the other week.

haha i don't know what the experience i had watching the first episode was but it certainly wasn't 'fun'

the obsessive pleasure kintarou finds in desserts seems ... hm. positive coverage normally says it's about the necessity of small pleasures among a dehumanising work culture, but it seems a bit of a moral void. the necessary complement to the dehumanising work culture ... kantarou's joy itself a capitalist product ...

tho mb if i wasn't prejudiced against hyper-sweet asian desserts already i wouldn't have had this reaction, to be fair: i found all the food porn shots about as appetising as had they focused instead on glistening, beautifully-framed, superlatively-lit lumps of human excrement

I watched 3 episodes of Salaryman but it's not really grabbing me. The visits to sweet shops are a little too tedious/tidy.

There’s a dystopian Brazilian thing, name is something like SIX PERCENT

restarted FILINTA: can't reeally remember who anyone is, still intrigued by its mix of slapstick silliness and genuine nastiness

Have you tried Turkish on Duolingo yet, mark?

it is on my list but some way down :)

EASY LIVING/HELPPO ELÄMÄ (finnish): just started, three series

WRT to kantaro this seems pretty representative of Japanese tv. I’m sitting in a hotel room in Yamagata watching a completely different show where the protagonist is getting erotic satisfaction from the architectural details in the restaurant he’s in. The comedy comes from this and the fact that he is very tall and keeps hitting his head on the the aforementioned architectural details. ( Also he is waiting for a parfait).

the japanese shows i try all seem to have anime-featured schoolkids as primary characters and (as a very old person) i find this quite unengaging -- are there any with more grizzled ppl?

lol my filinta-layoff means that i have stopped being able to distinguish between all the many beards w/fezzes and can no longer follow the plot

More grizzled - midnight diner on Netflix

La Mante cleverly worked out it could get even worse if it threw in gender politics ripped from a 70s giallo. Looking forward to catching up on Spiral though.

Destroy: LILYHAMMER, in which Little Steven’s Sopranos character (in everything but name) goes into the witness protection program in Norway and comedic culture clash ensues. If only.

another vote here for CALL MY AGENT aka DIX POUR CENT when you guys have finished brooding over blasted scando hellscapes

^^ OUI!

Just started that a couple of days ago, it's loads of fun.

dudes i have been baskjng in the drug-tossed med all year

SAME THING

🎶 la reina dul sur, traficante muy famosa 🎵

thank you! this is the exact context I was hoping for! All of these things are alluded to or play a part in the plot of this series. ... In the previous episode I watched Salazar had had an "accident" (lol at the chair) and there was a new leader. The PICE, as represented in the show, are horrible and make the CIA people look humanitarian.

also watched: Unpermitted Living - Spanish - organized crime patriarch with alzheimers - and issues of succession. The first season is pretty compelling, lots of melodrama, no one is 100% horrible except for Freddy the upstart Colombian drug dealer, and then the relatives that show up near the end who were living in Mexico ... it made me interested in perceptions/biases of European Spain vs. Latin American Spanish ... I started watching the 2nd season and it started out with a few ridiculous things happening, so I stopped watching it.

The PIDE were the secret police, just basically the Gestapo of the regime. Very adept at torture, just the worst scum.

The only reason the Carnation Revolution had a death toll at all was the director of the PIDE saw a crowd outside and just fired into it at random.

Very adept at torture, just the worst scum.

so this show's version is a fairly accurate portrayal

I’ve been kinda wiped out on the feel-bad organized crime shows, I stopped watching Gomorrah which is objectively well-done but the characters are such abhorrent ppl that I feel like I get the point. Got to that point w ZeroZeroZero too which looked amazing and had some great acting but it lost me by the end.

Mostly been sticking w/Engrenages, Stranger, and Entrapped.

I fucking loved Au Service de la France, but it's not on netflix anymore.

I think I am 4 seasons behind on Engranages ...