Ariel Pink

glad my long-held assessment that this guy's music sucks also applies to his personality

would you not prefer it if it was just the former of those two options

Some record store in Atlanta stopped selling AP's music and he's feuding with them on twitter

Another day of being attacked by Ariel Pink and his legion of enablers.

— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017

This is just a sampling of how many people are defending public actions of Ariel Pink (of which even he call gross conduct.) pic.twitter.com/ISqWksKSai

— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017

I have one ticket to the Philly show on Friday Nov 3rd, looking to sell it for face value (which is less than I wound up paying with fees added in). Anyone in the Baltimore area want to buy it from me?

Just realizing that I'm not up for all the driving needed to see it, especially when there are other things I need to do timewise and no one I know (other than one performer) will be attending.

i had never really listened to much cabaret voltaire before but right now i have red mecca on and jeez this is like 90% of ariel's early sound huh

... no?

definitely in there but no 90%

i think it's just.. lofi

Yeah I wouldn't even say 50%. Here's a 90% playlist:

Calice - Shaking Romance (1984)
Charles Smith and Jim Tollan - Taktent (1984)
The 6ths - Rot In The Sun (1994)
Lives Of Angels - Imperial Motors (1983)
Martin Newell - Gamma Ray Blue (1985)

Imperial Motors is maybe 75--80%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJvGJhKxGM

this, which is the first track on his FACT mix, sounds so much like him it's nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbGiSsE0Y0s

Wow

I was looking for that band, but I couldn't search for it because I don't know Cyrillic. Good call though, brimstead. Also Оборотень Лис

Anyone ripped these?

It doesn’t sound that much like his own music but threadc reminded that I really liked this from that same FACT mix AP did a few years ago.

https://youtu.be/h_O0cDszcuE

that was reissued on this amazing comp last year: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Sky-Girl/release/8684302

Julian Casablancas: I Strive To Build A World Where… Ariel Pink Is As Popular As Ed Sheeran

SSION – “At Least The Sky Is Blue” (Feat. Ariel Pink) Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to9ggdpiSyk

really good song, listened to it 4 or 5 times in a row on thursday. sneaks up on u

Every generation gets the David Bowie it deserves.

not sure about the outro but otherwise quite enjoyable! who is SSION?

don't know but that hook is killer

Every generation gets the David Bowie it deserves.

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yuppies deserved prince?

wow that washed over me with zero effect

try again took me a couple tries I was skeptical at first

ssion - my love grows in the dark was a kinda big song like 4 or 5 years ago i think.

the good bit is where it interpolates Neil young's Neil Young's Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black) from 4 minutes in. I like it though.

i like the video

i like Ariel Pink but he is in no way the Bowie of this generation. Bowie had a solid 15 years of radio hits singles and mass appeal (despite Julian's dumb fantasy tons of people knew who Bowie was in the 70's). Pink has't even gotten to his Space Oddity yet.

that’s exactly what JC is saying though right? In a better world “Round and Round” would’ve been a radio hit. All the records this decade have as much mass appeal as Bowie imo - “Only in My Dreams,” “Baby,” “PYNIMP,” “Another Weekend,” “L’estat,” “Kinski Assassin,” “Feels Like Heaven”... and “Space Oddity” was only a hit years later after Ziggy.

All the records this decade have as much mass appeal as Bowie imo

not in the opinion of the masses tho!

well it's a different era, Bowie was on a major label, exploded in popularity after a performance on Top of the Pops when everyone watched that show no matter who was on because there were so few options on TV

Space Oddity saw Bowie temporarily become a one-hit wonder until Ziggy

sure but again he was on a major label. But it is true AP the man does not have the charisma or stage presence of Bowie. quite the opposite in fact.

n a better world “Round and Round” would’ve been a radio hit.

lol whut

I remember Ellen Olenska in The Age of Innocence: "Oh, my dear - where is that country? Have you ever been there?"

def could've seen it becoming a crossover hit helped by commercial syncs & a bigger push by 4AD. I'd say the same for Grimes but as has been discussed on her thread, Art Angels performed shockingly poorly on the charts compared to how much acclaim it got & how much people love it. maybe the problem is 4AD.

Agree about the hit potential for "Round and Round." That fan video with the footage from "Perfect" made it seem like it should be soundtracking crossfit/soulcycle sessions.

a bigger push in what direction? there's no radio format that's hospitable to the type of music the dude makes.

greater commercial success for an artist like a purity ring just involves getting it in front of people who already like similar music and will immediately understand it. ariel pink's music doesn't really resemble anything that ever has been wildly successful or is wildly successful currently. to get him over the hump, you'd either have to find a way to make his music more commercial without sanding off the edges that make it appealing to fans, or have a legion of his acolytes go forth into the industry and do that work for him by creating commercial music that proudly bears his influence that would provide mainstream audiences with the context they'd need to understand and appreciate what he does.

that's not even getting into any of the personal stuff.

i personally would characterize "round and round" as a song that actually over-performed relative to what the natural demand for this guy's music is, and that the dude's boosters in the media and at his label performed a miraculous act akin to squeezing blood from a stone when they managed to get his name out there as much as they did.

a bigger push in what direction? there's no radio format that's hospitable to the type of music the dude makes.

all the songs I listed, esp. 'Round and Round,' could slot in perfectly on pop/rock radio. not to mention every single college radio station in the country. I agree that the main problem is his complete lack of charisma, really an anti-charisma, that shatters the Bowie comparison & his pop chances. and again, even that's not getting into the personal stuff, which is another huge problem. but on the music alone, I could see it in another world.

Round and Round is a good song that droops under the weight of its deliberate lethargy and lacklustre vocal delivery. A cover of the song could be a hit but this song as it is? no.

"round and round" is over five minutes long and takes forever to get to the chorus. the relevant radio formats are overrun by beat-driven comfort food like portugal. the man's "feel it still" and imagine dragons. ariel pink is not LP1 MGMT - what he's doing has no relationship to the type of rock music that's currently doing numbers.

the dude's brand as an underappreciated mad genius or whatever is a perfect match for his actual skillset. he routinely over-delivers relative to the very low expectations his public persona inspires, which keeps a small base of hardcore fans happy. that is the type of career he seems to be able to handle and i don't think anything bigger would work out well for either him or the world.

flappy bird, were you listening to pop radio in 2010 and 2011

"Round and Round" would have fit just fine and Usher-Pitfull, Rihanna, Bruno Mars, and Gaga.

MGMT is a great comparison, 5 minute hits are not unprecedented, I'm just saying it could've happened on the same scale as an MGMT. james is right though w/r/t AP's actual skillset and abilities and likely inability to cope with / manage a huge boost in popularity.

but MGMT have never had anything close to an American top forty hit.

yeah I know they did reasonably well on all those obscure tertiary charts, & those songs are still in rotation a lot, i.e. = pop hit for an indie act

jb otm

I thought I hated Ariel Pink but I realized that I just didn't need him, and most of the people I knew who were passionate fans I think were themselves goofy insecure musicians who felt more personally validated by his presence and acclaim than they actually felt moved by his music

There were parts of Pom Pom that spoke to me I guess

He came to my house once for a party, I'd never met the guy, he was a guest of some other people I'd invited. He ended up kind of holding court with my guitar on my couch and it was good! But then I ended up getting drunk and needing to sleep before people could leave. I woke up and all the lights were still on nothing was cleaned up and the front door was wide open and one of the showers was inexplicably on. I found Ariel's bank card on the ground outside and returned it to him later that day. It took me all day to clean up the mess

“pink's music doesn't really resemble anything that ever has been wildly successful or is wildly successful currently”

You mean pop music?