That Grass Widow review lingers in my mind every time I see a Vice article appear in my timeline. People are quick to talk about the terrible value of The Daily Mail on society but realistically Vice has had a deeper and more subversive reach with its brand of pseudo-ironic alt-right values and it continually amazes me that they've become legit and respected.
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
I hate how the influence of Vice as a writing voice is so ubiquitous now. Its easy to write "rip off my testicles" keyboard bashing rants and the tone of snark and snobbery is just so off-putting. It feels like there's no room for genuine enthusiasm and excitement or calm critique anywhere and the fact Vice is such a prominent online voice is a huge part of this.
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
"now"
well, the terminology has changed
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
I have not really followed Momus since he stopped posting here; does he still believe Vice was subverting racism?
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
let's remember the good times: PRUSSIAN BLUE - White Power Folk Duo.... of 12-year-old twin sisters...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link
Just because an ideology is unpopular (in this case, rightfully so) doesn't mean you can deny it's right to exist, or it's subscribers their life, liberty, and freedom to live wherever the fuck they want.
oh man I read that comment on the thread Οὖτις just linked and took a second before scrolling down to play the "guess the poster" game
― mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
lol I apparently did a full-body NOPE away from the Prussian Blue threads
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
oh god ann sterzinger, now there's a blast from the past. kind of ahead of her time in a way
― Amazing Random (m coleman), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
xxp
feel like there might be something faulty about that quote when applied to nazis but i can't quite put my finger on it
― pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
sterzinger's last post was less than a month before my first :D
― imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
gotta love the amount of shit I took for insisting that VICE shouldn't have given them exposure, what a monster I was
I can't find the sterzinger exchange in question, what thread did that happen on?
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
The 'I hate this generation' thread - C/D
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
how many people who were like "no man I want small government, I'm a libertarian, I don't agree with those type of people but they can say whatever" later went full alt-right by 2016
― mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
ugh, i never saw that thread. ann used to post on I Love Books all the time in the olden days.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
xp: The only person I can think of I know who was in that zone who didn't is a friend from college who was well on his way to vanishing in a spiral of conservative orthodoxy until he came out right before his 50th birthday. (His best friend is also a libertarian type but is and has always been staunchly anti-racist over everything else, making him one of the few conservative-leaning voices in my friend circle who I don't automatically assume is arguing from a position of unexamined racism.)
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
I think that thread was my only interaction with Ann? I did not have a positive impression.
jfc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
If Celine and Hamsun weren’t fascists, they’d be Ann Sterzinger. And finally, a book where the footnotes aren’t a twee affectation. —Nick Mamatas
https://www.amazon.com/NVSQVAM-nowhere-Ann-Sterzinger/dp/099073353X
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
when someone said "Ann Sterzinger is now writing for Taki" my reaction was "why did that take so long and why are people acting surprised?"
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
dang one of the other pull quotes on the book scott linked is from a men's rights alt-right slug
― mh, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
wow, yeah, she is a total alt-right person! jeez. came across a youtube podcast interview with her dressed as a nazi. yeesh.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
you know that like all the other alt-righters she's an egomaniac narcissist, probably googles her name every evening, and will be here in 3...2...
― imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
i won't link to it. its a savage hippie interview on youtube. whenever i read "female jim goad" i know i'm in for a treat. though that used to just be debbie goad...
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
someone could deindex...
I think if she has managed to resist coming back this board for the past 11 years, this little nostalgia trip won't lure her back.
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
also, i came sort of close to bumping this recently: ILB writing workshop
faaaairly glad i didn't now (her tone certainly put me off though)
― imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
I confess I was blissfully unaware of this jackass's existence prior to this thread
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
Ann Sterzinger owns the BLACK PILL SITCOM genre, previously known as dark comedy, embracing the bleakness with a giddy sense of fun.
― Erotic Wolf (crüt), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
is it safe to mention b3cky luca5 yet
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
Three times in a mirror at night, spit over your shoulder and howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl like a werewolf
― rb (soda), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
maybe Callum will come back too
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
anyone to shake us out of our complacent bourgie-liberal torpor ;)
― imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link
(n.b. i know ilx isn't very bourgie at all, but these fucks loooove to conflate leftism and social progressivism with wealth for some dumbfuck reason)
― imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
(ghost of calum reappeared briefly when his hugh hefner thread was bumped last week)
― mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link
someone called calum the turrican of his day yesterday on a thread about Suede that calum started back in the day . Turrican was not amused.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-women-accuse-vice-of-toxic-sexual-harassment-culture
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
and now we fuck
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
https://www.theawl.com/2017/11/vice-sexual-harassment-story-coming/
― Frozen CD, Friday, 17 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Hmm.
Storm’s brewing.— Kim Kelly (@GrimKim) November 17, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
“We haven’t had any cases of sexual harassment to deal with,” Ashbrooke wrote. (Ashbrooke was vice president of human resources at Harvey Weinstein’s Miramax Films from 1991 to 2000, according to her LinkedIn page, a time when the now-disgraced producer was paying out hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal settlements to squash allegations of sexual harassment and unwanted sexual contact by employees and actresses.)
grim lol
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
Nancy AshbrookeGlobal HR at VICEListens to Barry ManilowLives in New York, New York
― omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
there's no media company i'd be more delighted to see dragged thru the mud than VICE though it's about a decade and a half overdue, it might be a bit of "closing the barn door after the horse has bolted" as it were.
― omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
The update on that Awl story is even nuttier.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
i hope that video leaks, i would like to see it.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
can;t wait to see the sad online media circlejerk do the whole "Please hire my talented friend BABY BALLS 69, he is so smart and can do more than rape jokes and exploitative videos on regional rap scenes"
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
It begins?
http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/vice-jason-mojica-suspended-sexual-harassment-1202617460/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
I for one am astonished that an organisation founded by Gavin McInnes and named after the police department that deals with sex crime could be home to sleazy scumbags
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
The clock further ticks.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vice-sex-harassment-shane-smith_us_5a1063b9e4b045cf4371cbe4
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link
We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.
~~~A Pleasant Afternoon Being Hungover with Tim Kinsellahttps://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/kzg8ae/first-dates-tim-kinsella-capn-jazz-interview-2017
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
A better internet is possible. We are going to show you how. Motherboard is building a community internet network at VICE HQ: https://t.co/iwqTueS6IN— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) December 14, 2017
meet the new boss
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link