stephen king c/d?

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i also disliked the acromelagy = you are seen as a monster by others = actually fuck it yr the worst kind of monster all-round

The use of a character w/ acromegaly was a bit distasteful but I liked there being an explanation as an extension of revealing what's hidden - Gerald and his rape/domination fantasies, the truth of her childhood abuse, the true nature of MM, and how silence and ambiguity can work to oppress

I also liked how the dog was handled, and tbh it's one of the few survival movies of this kind where nothing the main character does was inexplicably stupid

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

last is def true, yes -- in a desperate pinch she was good at level-headed puzzle-solving, coping and just keeping on keeping on

(when she ended up where she ended up, and the torchlights were bobbing thru the wood, i had a flashback to texas chainsaw, where the central character -- also good at keeping on -- escape and flees, but straight back into their clutches…)

mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

um hello she THREW AWAY THE WATER 😤

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

I don't remember her doing that?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

she was ordered to by one of the voices in her head that we didn't meet, possibly her imagined version of the dog

mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

There was water left in the glass that she was saving for later and when she got the idea to smash it she first tipped the remaining water out, for no reason, while dying of thirst

tbh I hope I'm remembering this wrong because the way I remember it is deeply upsetting, maybe the most upsetting thing I'll see all year

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

enh there was like 80ml left at that point

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

And she was about to either be free or bleed to death. The water in the glass didn't factor into the equation.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

What's wrong with drinking the water tho

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

there's blood in it iirc

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

Hydration is very important people

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Thursday, 19 October 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link

Our bodies are 70 percent water it's the stuff of life

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Thursday, 19 October 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

What if the very water you’re made of is EVIL, tho? That’ll make you go bump-de-bump in the night.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 20 October 2017 06:20 (six years ago) link

pfft

"evil water" that's preposterous

"secret electricity" now you're talking!

"The" Blink-182 (wins), Friday, 20 October 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

Inspired by this thread, I went back & re-read the early short stories (Night Shift & Skeleton Crew) after about 25 King-free years. Some pretty good ones in there - The Mist is all-time. Feeling like I should read something I haven’t read before or my brain will atrophy, though - anyone got any recommendations for mid/late-period King? I think the last book of his I read before abandoning him was The Dark Half, so anything after that would be fair game.

Out of the mists of time, I think my favourites of his were The Shining, The Dead Zone, The Stand (tho god knows what I’d think of it now). Maybe I should just pick a book of his starting with “The” and go for it.

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 17 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Revival is really good. I also liked Duma Key and 11/22/63, and Under The Dome is better than the show.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 17 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

i'd say 11/22/63 and Full Dark, No Stars

Number None, Sunday, 17 December 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

seconding Duma Key, especially if you were a fan of his in the long-ago. it reminded me of the style of his early work where he leads you gently through innocuous familiar stuff into a weeeeiiirirdass nightmare

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link

i think 11/22/63 is great too but for yr needs might be better suited if you don’t want classic King with a capital K

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

full dark would be interesting to read back-to-back w night shift.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

The talisman is great and if you dig it then launch into the follow up black house

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 December 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Duma Key and Revival would probably be among my top ten King novels.

Brad C., Monday, 18 December 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

i need to read revival

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

Fantastic, thanks!

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Oh, I forgot to check back in after finishing Revival. My dissenting opinion is that it was fine overall but ultimately an interesting failure, inasmuch as its construction hinged entirely on King sticking the landing (which, I think we can agree, is not his strong suit). It's possible that I'm judging it harshly against a lot of the early 20th Century weird fiction which inspired it and which I was reading around the same time.

Ooey Gooey Fresh and Frothy (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 December 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

Didn't know there was such respect for Duma Key. Just ordered a copy; gonna enjoy reading a book I know absolutely nothing about.

11/22/63 is a fun, easy read, but it's empty calories, and takes a long time to go exactly where you know it's going. Under The Dome was much more satisfying for me. Faster plotting, more unexpected twists (a dog that sees ghosts!), sharper writing and just this overarching sense of chaos. I wouldn't compare it to early King, but it does seem like peak late-period King to me.

Evan R, Monday, 18 December 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Under the Dome felt like The Stand for most of the novel in structure & pacing, characters etc but with a waay worse farty ending which kinda ruined the whole thing for me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

Yeah agreed. I couldn't get into it, it was totally rehash stuff imo

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

I've said this before but I really wish king had waited for under the dome to play his metafictional copout card rather than blowing it on the dark tower, would have been the perfect way to end that book, which has some of his best bleak comedy

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

His editor should just take his finished manuscripts and be all, 'looks great, Steve!' and then 'accidentally' drop like the last 10-15 pages in the wastebasket. SK is like a champion gymnast who ends every routine by clumsily doing the running man (fittingly enough).

Ooey Gooey Fresh and Frothy (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

Ehhh it's not like there's a want of clumsiness in the beginnings and middles; I don't go to king for elegance so I'm easier on his cruddy endings than most. I love the ending of IT although (because) it's total anticlimax

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

The climaxing happens just a little earlier

Which obv is gonna happen at that age

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

🤢

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

yeah he is definitely notorious for whiffing endings to some of his better stories

i’m not mad abt Dark Tower AS much, but Under The Dome had me in full “old man yelling at clouds” mode when I was done.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

Really?

Dark tower had me out fighting haystacks at midnight

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

Under The Dome's ending sucked, but the book still reached a pretty satisfying payoff. 10 pages of "ah that's stupid" is an OK tradeoff for several hundred pages of earned destruction and mayhem

Evan R, Monday, 18 December 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

Lol America

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

yeah I don’t remember being that mad abt Dark Tower but that’s not to say I can’t understand it. especially writing that series for so long to end like that was definitely not ~ideal~

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

under the dome ending was some St Elsewhere BULLSHIT

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I genuinely can't believe the resolution hinged on Howie Mandel pulling an inflated rubber glove over his head.

Ooey Gooey Fresh and Frothy (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

Please no spoilers

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

The under the dome ending wasn't that bad but it quite CLEARLY wasn't enough like st elsewhere, I mean cmon the entire novel is literally set in a snowglobe

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

Under The Dome had me in full “old man yelling at clouds” mode when I was done.

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:3

Dark tower had me out fighting haystacks at midnight

― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 19:36

I've yet to have the pleasure of disappointing books giving me such powers. Keeping my fingers crossed I'll turn into an old woman who can hurt clouds with my screams.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 18 December 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

I didn't say I won

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

Like it's an actual betrayal that the ending of that novel isn't a deranged jordy verrill saying "ain't I a stinker" xp to me

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

Darraghmac- Haha

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 18 December 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

The ending of the dark tower is fine, if we're just talking about the last scene it's one of his better endings, but the problem is the whole series is like half rubbish and the greater part of that half is in the back end - that whole last book is dogshit iirc

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, 18 December 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

I was in a book queue with The Dark Half about ten years ago and - for reasons I still can't fathom - the clerk told me the ending (that is, the identity of "The Dark Half") as I was buying it.

I've never read it because of that, but is it still worth it I (kind of) know the mystery?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 December 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

I think it's the only King book I've never finished

ymmv

Number None, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link


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