The cover for Billy Corgan's new album...

Pale Horse on piano was great

Oceania was the last gasp, IMO.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that last gasp sure was recent

I fucking love this new album by William Patrick Corgan :-/

it's great :\

that last gasp sure was recent

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:05 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed, but it came after a near-decade of not particularly great music, and was followed by a half-decade of not particularly great music. Including this. So that's... what? One excellent album in nearly 15 years? Yeah. Cool.

this record is much better than oceania but ok dude

yeah no contest this is by far the best thing he's done in many, many years. this is a record i'll be listening to more than a week after release.

also, seeing him play a lot of "lesser" later songs last night on piano/acoustic guitar showed that his ability to write great songs & melodies hasn't diminished as much as he's lost his ear for production & going too far in the studio. he made me like Drum + Fife last night on the piano. Pale Horse was another highlight. thank god for rick rubin

'Pale Horse' is always a highlight.

WPC's voice has so much weird vibrato that it sounds insane when he harmonizes the longer notes in Amarinthe

Turrican -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKGVw4-CN0

I'm suddenly wanting to listen to Oceania again ... 'Panopticon' fucking rules.

lol this video rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_4dx_0Qdk

the second set in LA last night was pretty nuts. he's doing four nights at Hollywood Forever Cemetery, first two nights were the same as the rest of the tour, last night after Ogilala he played:

Jesus is the Sun
Crush
Snail
Purr Snickety
Mayonaise
Rocket
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
In the Arms of Sleep
Galapagos
Shame
Tear
Perfect
Wound
With Every Light
Glass and the Ghost Children
---
The End of the World [Skeeter Davis]
Let Me Give the World To You

wow that’s a fucking setlist

damn

Purr Snickety!

night 4:

I Fall
Space Oddity [David Bowie]
Riverview
Once in a While
Lyric
Eye
Tonight, Tonight
Pinwheels
Soothe
To Sheila
Box of Rain [Grateful Dead]
Friends as Lovers, Lovers as Friends
Spaceboy
Landslide [Fleetwood Mac]
Burnt Orange-Black
---
Stand Inside Your Love
Muzzle

Please tell me you are a witness at all these nights, Flapp

I wish, I'm on the opposite coast. I was really happy with the show I saw in Delaware, I posted the setlist from the second set of that show upthread. Pretty remarkable that he played Soothe and Once in a While, the latter of which hasn't been played since that infamous Cat's Cradle show in early 2000 when Jimmy was out with a "jellyfish sting" and Billy & James played by themselves.

yo flappy i hate to say these words all in one post but: have you listened to billy's recent interview with joe rogan, it's pretty fantastic

yeah it was great! i watched it on friday without reading any of the comments anywhere beforehand because i knew it could go in a lot of different directions. it went as well as it could've gone imo. Billy very humble & interesting & making an effort to get on an even keel with Joe, who clearly had a peripheral knowledge of the Pumpkins at best. it was a good contrast to Billy's appearances on Howard (massive SP fan) where they usually talk mostly about childhood neglect, abuse, trauma. I enjoyed the conversation with Joe about fame, celebrity, and the 'behind the curtain' machinations of show business. fwiw I think Joe gets a bad rap, he's had some shit guests but he's a pretty open-minded and even-keeled and positive guy. I watch/listen to his podcast fairly regularly depending on the guest.

problem seems to be that he is so open-minded that he can convince himself of anything

sure, depending on the guest. he knows very little about a lot. he gets stoned and interviews comedians, rockstars, scientists, academics, his friends, pundits, crazy people. it's fun

stoned guy asking scientist about extrapolations of quantum physics is a state every aged fraternity brother seems to occupy for at least a little while.

hell yeah brother

lol

Great interview!

Billy Corgan - Hollywood Forever Cemetery - November 11, 2017

Set 1, running time 43:06

1. Zowie
2. Processional
3. The Spaniards
4. Aeronaut
5. The Long Goodbye
6. Half-Life of an Autodidact
7. Amarinthe
8. Antietam
9. Mandarynne
10. Shiloh
11. Archer
12. If I Were a Carpenter [ Hardin ]

Set 2 and encore, running time 1:14:07

1. Jesus is the Sun
2. Crush
3. Snail
4. Purr Snickety
5. Mayonaise
6. Rocket
7. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
8. In The Arms of Sleep
9. Galapogos
10. Shame
11. Tear
12. Perfect
13. Wound (abandoned)
14. Wound
15. With Every Light
16. Glass and the Ghost Children
17. [encore break]
18. The End of the World [ Davis ]
19. Let Me Give The World To You

I gotta be honest I've never understood the appeal of "glass and the ghost children", otherwise very cool

Just listened to the interview with Joe Rogan. Not sure if Rogan actually knows anything about SP, as he didn't name any song or album and they didn't talk about the music that much. I was cheered to hear that Billy is self-aware enough to acknowledge that many fans don't want to hear anything about his wrestling ventures -- count me in. Aside from Billy's requisite rant about "the left," he seemed like he was in a good mood. He confirmed he's on good terms with everyone and they're aiming for a full-band reunion next year. It warms the heart!

And funny stories about Rodman and the '90s Bulls.

Okay, so I've actually convinced myself to check out the new album and shit, 'Processional' is a really beautiful song that was totally worth hearing! In fact, I've got no problem with the songwriting or production on this album at all, really... if this record has any flaw, it's that the arrangements expose the flaws in Corgan's voice more than usual (I lost count of the amount of times the autotune kicked in) - I never really got that problem with Adore so much. Anyway, this is a much warmer record than Adore and one I'm glad he made.

So yeah, make that 2 good albums in 17 years.

i told you!!!

hearing reports that the full title was (I Am The Last Person in the World to Find Out About) Hollywood Forever Cemetery

lmao

:D

Processional is beautiful, these lines & their melody hit me hard:

And stake your heart on mine
to places, other times
It's a long way, it's a long way
to get back home

i told you!!!

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, but you have a tendency to like everything and flappy is a massive superfan Corgan apologist, so it was pretty hard to gauge whether this albun was going to be any good based on the fact that the pair of you liked it, fwiw. I'm glad I could summon up enough enthusiasm to check it out myself.

*album

This will probably lead me to binge listen to the discography again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs9GSGR1XHA

ok then enjoy music on your own shithead!

Processional is beautiful, these lines & their melody hit me hard:

And stake your heart on mine
to places, other times
It's a long way, it's a long way
to get back home

― flappy bird, Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I completely agree! After a couple more listens, it's a late-period Corgan classic for me now.

Of course, I'm mow on a Pumpkins B-sides kick, of all things...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFMosotuPo

only watched a few songs from that, p good so far

not optimistic about the odds of this ever coming out (at least as a double album:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcqDsVZAk_E/

caption reads:

I just finished a few weeks recording in Nashville for the follow-up to Ogilala. So far (the new album) is more stark and tangled. Also looks like it will be a double (16 songs at least)

lol i really hope he puts it out

me too. i will say i was p sure what became Ogilala was shelved before it was announced in August (he recorded it in the summer of 2016... Linda Strawberry posted a picture of him doing vocals and said the album was called The Land of Maybe). i still have reservations about this new one though mostly because he's working with Howard Willing and presumably self-producing again, so there goes the quality control of Rick Rubin. i don't think Ogilala sounds drastically better than any of the post-2000 records, but Billy needs to have someone listen to all of his demos and pick out the gems that he's been throwing away for years now. i don't know what happened to his quality control compass. if not for Rubin "Aeronaut" not only wouldn't have been on the album it probably never would've been recorded. anyway he's still got some good momentum atm and seems like he's in a good place, hope "Cardinal Rule" is on it.

this is approaching Chrysanthemum levels of post-SP songwriting for me lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AAtElcmYic