As a lot of people noted, though, she was pretty clear at the time that the experience soured her on both acting and Von Trier. This is an angrier underscoring as to why.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
Yes, fuck Von Trier.Also, fuck his sleazy production team for enabling it and framing Björk afterwards as the crazy/difficult one with their ridiculous stories, and now claiming "they were the victims" and that "she dictated everything and was about to close a movie of 100m kroner". Boo-fucking-hoo.And fuck Catherine Deneuve for being a sexual harrasment apologist and perpetuating Von Trier's lies in interviews for years.
Very proud of Björk for coming out with this story.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
No way in hell I'll watch another Von trier after this
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
Talentless cunt anyway.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link
I think of all the noisy, pretentious edgelord type eejits of the movie industry in this era, he seems the most talentless and most unbearable personality disorder type of the lot. I can't imagine how anyone could sit through a movie like Nymphomaniac, unless they are being paid or someone is holding a gun to their head. I'm glad Bjork is mirking him up. But can't help feeling if there was a just God in this universe, then this fucker would have been taken out by an icicle of piss decades ago.
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link
With a movie like "Nymphomanica", the non-rhetorical question that should spring to anyone's mind is "Why did he make this film?"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link
LOL, spot on. All of these 'noisy, pretentious edgelord types' are fucking shit anyway. (xp)
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link
Ah, this is a Bjork thread, mildly going off topic there.
Amongst other things then, it's a damn shame as it's clear that Bjork would have made a great actor had she done more films. She was pretty amazing in that one film..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link
xpost to myself, not Tom D.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:58 (six years ago) link
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 09:44 (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ok, coming from you especially, I'm gonna have to cry foul here
also, while he was clearly out of control and shitty to bjork, this is one case where I would be interested in hearing his reply - especially because I don't think he'll deny everything or offer a dismissive apology like most men do.
but then again this is hard for me to process
― imago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 10:42 (six years ago) link
Actually, he has already denied it:
Danish film director Lars von Trier has rejected Icelandic pop singer Björk’s allegation that he sexually harassed her during the making of the movie Dancer in the Dark.
“That was not the case. But that we were definitely not friends, that’s a fact,” Von Trier told Danish daily Jyllands-Posten in its online edition.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/17/not-the-case-lars-von-trier-denies-sexually-harassing-bjork
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link
Imago, when you are talking about someone who it appears to me, has surrounded himself with a coterie of yes-people and enablers, and then from a position of power attempts to sexually harass a woman, then attempts to exert his power(and that of his group of acolytes) to punish her for knocking him back. Then I thought it would be fair to describe such behaviour as a symptom of an unbearable personality disorder. I didn't use a disability slur word or anything. Is this being "called out"? ffs!
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:15 (six years ago) link
"she dictated everything and was about to close a movie of 100m kroner"
.. I don't blame her, tbqh
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link
your post would have still made the same sense without the bolded words, that's all! associating personality disorders with abusive behaviour isn't right imo
― imago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link
well yeah, you have to think of Hitler's feelings as well.
― calzino, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/22905037_10155821943851460_660015071562070825_o.jpg?oh=fe9975b343cac08b7eeff4e428960e01&oe=5A66ACBC
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
14 tracks, total running time of 01:11:38."Conceived by Björk & Arca"
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
wow
― jmm, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
Bjork wins Halloween this year.
― jmm, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
Artist who did the makeup is drag queen Hungry: https://www.instagram.com/isshehungry very sickening yet awesome work. I can see why Bjork would have chosen her work, it's very symmetrical and some of it even seems inspired by the same aesthetics bjork has used in the past. e.g.: https://www.instagram.com/p/BUzmenOjDLz/
I kind wish they have gone with something like that, this one is kind of disturbing and not as aesthetically pleasing what with the bird fetus and voldemort slits on the neck and the alien vagina on her forehead.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
A few of the track titles (some might be work-in-progress and/or variations of one track): Allow, Arisen My Senses, Blissing Me, Body Manners, Body Memory, Courtship, Features Creatures, Future Forever, The Gate, Loss, Utopia.
"Features Creatures" is Bjork singing over this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FQ2DAEh1Mw
(This is not a joke.)
Apparently the album flows in four distinct movements and features birdsong, flutes, harps, choirs, woodwinds etc. Overall a pretty light/airy feel but there's also a track with Rabit ("Loss"), so expect darker elements as well. Arca is not only the co-producer but also the co-writer on many songs.
A tour with a 12-piece flute ensemble is planned (first announced date: London's All Points East Festival in May). Björk said she might play flute on stage.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
Well then ...
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23116701_10155827244516460_8675642920107884561_o.jpg?oh=0910a185ef6b408da4bd48a50182846f&oe=5A6B6563
https://www.facebook.com/bjork/posts/10155827276611460
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
kudos for trying something new
― frogbs, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
If this doesn't end up my new least favorite Bjork LP, I'll eat my copy of Volta.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
Recently finished writing a review which includes the phrase "cross-species cephalopod Shaman for the chthulucene" so feel pretty damn vindicatd now fyi fuiud.
― Stevie T, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link
http://images.45cat.com/eddie-kendricks-goin-up-in-smoke-motown-2.jpg
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
welp I should definitely not have loaded this thread at work
― Simon H., Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link
Björk’s New Album Is a Love Letter to Optimism
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link
New single, "Blissing Me":
https://open.spotify.com/track/18pZmxEPXqJgEa67WQpGRz
Surprisingly simple and kind of catchy, very tender vocal delivery, pretty much just a harp and a kick, slightly similar vibes to the more stripped-down stuff from Vespertine and the Drawing Restraint 9 soundtrack. Probably also echoes of "Batabid" and "Virus". Very different to "The Gate", I like it.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link
I far prefer this!
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
really love this song! sounds like being an a sea voyage or something. the percussion makes me think of a creaky ship
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link
Yes, more harp please!
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
Gorgeous song. Really looking forward to this album now.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
Happy to have the skepticism that I felt following the release of the first track melt away.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
Yes this is gorgeous.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
So this album really is something, huh? Quite overwhelming after two first listens. For sure her longest, but perhaps also weirdest and least immediate yet? Medúlla and Biophilia seem now like merely a prelude to her idiosyncracies blossoming in full on Utopia.
The woodwind arrangements are gorgeous; she's really developed as a composer and arranger over the years. Perhaps that's how the record should be seen? As a non-narrative piece of modern classical / folk / electronic fusion, rather than an album in the singer-songwriter sense?
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 23 November 2017 11:06 (six years ago) link
Petridis isn't wholly convinced
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 November 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link
I don’t like it much. She needs to stop hanging around with Arca, his style is very bloated and every song in here is just nothing. Cool arrangements here and there but where are the actual songs? I struggle to remember any of them.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 November 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
"Actual songs" hasn't really been her thing since, what, Vespertine? There's still been a lot of memorable music since then.
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 November 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link
"Actual songs" hasn't really been her thing since, what, Vespertine?
Rong.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 November 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link
Vespertine, Medulla, Volta and even Biophilia were based around her and some actual compositions. It seems to me like Vulnicura and this one are more based around the arrangements... don’t know how else to explain it. Like if Arca shows up with some cool sounds and arrangements and just says ‘now sing on top of this’.
I do like it more than Vulnicura but that’s not saying much.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
Vulnicura had some of her strongest songs in years (especially Stonemilker, Lionsong and Black Lake) and if anything the string arrangements were based around the vocal lines rather than vice-versa. And Bjork did most of the production on that record IIRC, Arca got involved relatively late in the day.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
I actually shouldn’t voice my opinion on neither as I just can’t get into them and haven’t listened more than a couple of times. There’s not much pulling me in, sorry.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
Stonemilker was her best song since Vespertine
― ufo, Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
I agree.
Hope you can find your way in Moka. If not then it's not for you, but it's a joy in there.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
I promise to give both another chance in a couple of weeks.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
the gate sounded like bjork TMblissing me is great tho!
moka, i hear you with the anti-arca stuff and where that overwhelms her, I agree. But Stonemilker, Lionsong and Black Lake are still totally worth the trouble, signed a guy who was very angry at her MoMA show.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 23 November 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
Every album after Vespertine has a few song-songs on it -- Medulla has "Triumph of the Heart," Biophilia has "Virus" -- but they're always in the minority. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, by any stretch. The only truly disappointing album in her entire catalogue to me is Volta, for its at least implicit regressiveness. And even that has "Wanderlust" and "Declare Independence."
― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 November 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
I want to say that I can see Moka's difficulty with it. More so than Vulnicura, this album does feel like a somewhat 'meandering' record; the songs flow in and out of each-other. I've no idea of individual tracks on this one, most of the time, and just let it play (and repeat and repeat). It is no Homogenic, so to speak. But if you accept that, there are so many great phases and so many moments of beauty on here.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 November 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
the first half of 'the gate' is kinda astonishing
― Karl Malone, Friday, 24 November 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
"stonemilker" is the only real exception there. or "who is it" too if i were to more specifically say 'since vespertine'
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 14:47 (five months ago) link
oh wow her vocal is from the original pre-vespertine recording too. it sounds like the main thing that was newly recorded is the drums? (and rosalia's vocal of course)
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:02 (five months ago) link
love this so much. video is great too wow
― gman59, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 15:54 (five months ago) link
Flutes and violin arrangements are probably new too - at least they sound more like Vulnicura/Utopia influenced arrangements than Homogenic.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:59 (five months ago) link
Love this and the video
― Roz, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link
I’m a massive fan of Björk’s last three albums (and after finally seeing her live Cornucopia show last week I’m even more in love with her latter-day output than I thought I could be) but it’s so cool to hear this unearthed recording of her younger voice and more poppy/accessible style. I find it so nostalgic, brings me back to my teenage years.
Also weird to hear Rosalía sing in English lol! But I love it.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:23 (five months ago) link
She also sings in english in single “LLYLM” released earlier this year.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 12:55 (five months ago) link
Feel nostalgic and slightly sad hearing this great song, like a glimpse of a potential Bjork that pushed on in the direction of Vespertine. I do really like and admire some of the places she's gone over the years but never loved them like I loved Homogenic and Vespertine
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 18:35 (five months ago) link