Ariel Pink

I can't remember what AP said word for word, but he started the show by saying something to the tone of holding his underage girlfriend hostage backstage in a grotesque manner. When people were offended, he started going off at them like a gas lighter. That was enough to make me want to GTFO. Even if it allegedly ended up being consensual, making an audience believe you're being abusive towards your girlfriend onstage is no joke. Nobody goes to a show to see a domestic abuse act.

xp Pom Pom, yeah. Co-wrote a handful of the songs, gave AP titles & lyrics.

yeah that is fucking insane and really fucked up

@Le Bateau Ivre - what happened specifically? just curious. was it him solo or the band years?

dating a 20 year old fan is creepy enough on its own but that's all very fucked up. unfortunately not too surprising with his history of misogyny but this is certainly on another level

i can forgive maus for being a naive moron about mde though, glad he's distanced himself

isnt that guy super smart though? like a philosophy professor? not buying the dumb act.

i had a friend that moved out to Cali a few years ago and hung around in the scene w Ariel and R Stevie Moore. she was going w a lot of creepy guys at the time and it seemed like a iffy idea but he was pretty nice to her from what i heard. now she's living back at home now and has given up drugs and hanging around sketchy characters thank god.

I definitely am skeptical that this was just an act. Ariel Pink is known for having weird breakdowns on stage, not for carefully orchestrated theatrical moments.

Both Maus and Pink are exceptionally talented artists. That's a completely separate issue though.

having weird breakdowns on stage, not for carefully orchestrated theatrical moments

these can be one and the same

"Performance Art"TM just think of AP as another youtube asshole doing it for LOLZ

I mean, I know this term has fallen out of vogue, but I think he's crazy.

Not that it excuses anything he does or says.

dating a 20 year old fan is creepy enough on its own but that's all very fucked up. unfortunately not too surprising with his history of misogyny but this is certainly on another level

What's the pointing of being a star if you can't date a 20 year old fan. 20! If that's not fair game, what is?

Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okay, but wanting a much younger (but legal woman) is taboo now. I mean, sorry for the obvious anti-PC stuff, but I am truly sick of much of it.

The rest (e.g., abuse) is another matter, of course.

I agree that 20 is not underage but um

Dating a 20 year old fan is fine. Mistreating them is not.

That middle paragraph though. I do not sign off on it.

Also describing women as "game" is pretty fucked. Flagged ur post Rudolph.

Wait who’s fisting who

Who fists the fisters?

Every night PC Dies at Rudy's

Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okay

damn right it is

his dad's twitter https://twitter.com/marioros

Dr. Mario Colonoscopist is pro-Harvey Weinstein

Like asshole like son.

Also his Dad:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ocregister.com/2014/01/30/2-pleas-end-fraud-convictions-tied-to-buena-park-surgical-center/amp/

in addition to all that coming on stage stumble-down drunk to a crowd of people who paid to see you and may have travelled a good distance is a pretty big asshole move

and to think I was about to post something here about liking the new album...

Saw him once (circa 2010?) and he was in relatively good behavior. He was obviously a weird guy but held it together for the show.

his dad's twitter https://twitter.com/marioros

― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:22 (ten hours ago) Permalink

Pink was re-tweeting his dad's pro-weinstein comments the other day. Do we just chalk this up to Pink being an oddball/weirdo, or is he actually kind of a shitty human being? I mean he hangs out with Greg Gutfield, acts like an asshole to his girlfriend in front of an audience, says really, really horrible things in interviews...but he makes good music? Is that enough to save him from the same fate that's ending Matt Mondanile's career?

In another reddit throwaway account:

I saw this post from the daily discussion
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/76j49s/sunday_daily_music_discussion_october_15_2017/doeqhd8/
So I just kind of wanted to make a thread about this.
I saw Ariel Pink at the Metro in Chicago in 2010 after Before Today came out, Os Mutantes and someone else I can't remember opened.
I was standing at the front of the stage with two girls I went to the show with, like right in front of Ariel Pink himself.
During one of the songs, he jumped off stage and came right at, I didn't really know what he was doing, but he came right up to me, grabbed my face and started kissing me, like full tongue down threat and everything. He then turned and did the same thing to the couple girls I was with, and then some other girls who started crowding up to the stage, and jumped back up and kept playing with the rest of the band.
I uh...wasn't really into it, and I felt pretty embarrassed, but I just kind of thought it was "part of the show" so I didn't really think much of it. But having seen all the stuff about Matt Mondanile come out the past couple days and all the details about makes me feel like that was all not very above board?
So I just wanted to get that out. Thanks for reading.

https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/76t96k/in_response_to_the_ariel_pink_story_from/

Can anyone confirm this is something this asshole does at shows?

Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okay
damn right it is

― brimstead, Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:41 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, go fist yourself rudipherous. make sure you take your head out of there first tho.

Someone in the that Reddit thread posted this video with him leaving the stage to make out with the audience, so it definitely has happened. You can see it around the 2:35 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=regt_xy8N-M&feature=youtu.be

he was good last night :/

john maus was boring af tho

is the Chapel a pretty small place? I was surprised he was doing 3 nights there

ariel has been a reactionary prick forever, i kind of thought this was well known?

I don't think anyone is shocked, it's just another installment. & obviously even more stark & nauseating given the timing

Yea the chapel is small. We was packed like sardines in there until half the crowd dipped

glad my long-held assessment that this guy's music sucks also applies to his personality

would you not prefer it if it was just the former of those two options

Some record store in Atlanta stopped selling AP's music and he's feuding with them on twitter

Another day of being attacked by Ariel Pink and his legion of enablers.

— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017

This is just a sampling of how many people are defending public actions of Ariel Pink (of which even he call gross conduct.) pic.twitter.com/ISqWksKSai

— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017

I have one ticket to the Philly show on Friday Nov 3rd, looking to sell it for face value (which is less than I wound up paying with fees added in). Anyone in the Baltimore area want to buy it from me?

Just realizing that I'm not up for all the driving needed to see it, especially when there are other things I need to do timewise and no one I know (other than one performer) will be attending.

i had never really listened to much cabaret voltaire before but right now i have red mecca on and jeez this is like 90% of ariel's early sound huh

... no?

definitely in there but no 90%

i think it's just.. lofi

Yeah I wouldn't even say 50%. Here's a 90% playlist:

Calice - Shaking Romance (1984)
Charles Smith and Jim Tollan - Taktent (1984)
The 6ths - Rot In The Sun (1994)
Lives Of Angels - Imperial Motors (1983)
Martin Newell - Gamma Ray Blue (1985)

Imperial Motors is maybe 75--80%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJvGJhKxGM

this, which is the first track on his FACT mix, sounds so much like him it's nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbGiSsE0Y0s

Wow

I was looking for that band, but I couldn't search for it because I don't know Cyrillic. Good call though, brimstead. Also Оборотень Лис

Anyone ripped these?

It doesn’t sound that much like his own music but threadc reminded that I really liked this from that same FACT mix AP did a few years ago.

https://youtu.be/h_O0cDszcuE