The cover for Billy Corgan's new album...

Also, as far as his voice is concerned... I don't think he was lying when he said he could "slip into the old Pumpkins voice" whenever he wanted. This video gave me chills. Sounds like a mid-90's performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWD05OTZug

he also said that he's met a reptilian and hinted at anderson cooper being a globalist illuminati guy

anderson cooper's hit piece on Billy's charity mag cover with his cats was inexplicable & bizarre though. the way he described it was exactly as it went down. I don't blame him for making those "FUCK YOU ANDERSON COOPER" t-shirts in 2014. as for the "shapeshifter" (his words), my man was talking about his mom's ghost stealing pages of his memoir and psychics seeing dead friends earlier in the interview. he's always been drawn to that stuff & super paranoid- I think in the Kim Thayil "the core, the heart music" thread, there's a link to a post from someone who worked with him circa 2009, when Billy bought a bunch of gold bricks because he was convinced the dollar was about to collapse.

it wasnt that bizarre. he has a silly segment on his show for lol fun stuff and that pic was a meme before anderson ever put it on his show.

No crazy talk.
Says his mom's ghost stole 8 days of work on his book and his girlfriend saw the ghost leave through the kitchen with the pages, her head down.

yeah that's just a cool story

it wasnt that bizarre. he has a silly segment on his show for lol fun stuff and that pic was a meme before anderson ever put it on his show.

I disagree. yes it was a meme, it's a cute & funny pic, but Cooper's piece was so mean-spirited, lacked context & was disingenuous. It was a misleading segment- and yeah it was a tag at the end of his show, but I don't blame Billy for being pissed. I usually laugh at Billy when his persecution complex flares up, but this was a weird one. Don't know if AC is going to Eyes Wide Shut ceremonies but w/e, Billy was fine today.

I can understand someone not clued into Billy Corgan's activities in 2014 (aka most people) not knowing that it was a charity mag, that Billy's done "silly"/"schmaltzy" stuff like this his entire career, that the Smashing Pumpkins or even Billy were still active and making work. But to do such a nasty piece w/o any journalistic regard for real fact-checking, it was really weird. and yeah, lol fun segment sure, but it's CNN.

(Billy Corgan pic) "look at this idiot fool Corgan"
–Anderson Cooper

he hurt him deeply, he hurt him deeply in his heart

the chorus of "Processional" keeps hitting me really hard. the first side of this record is really fucking phenomenal. can't wait for the show tomorrow.

You're seeing him tomorrow? Still not listened to the new one. Constant 'just when I thought I was out he pulls me back in' feels with this dude. I'll cave, no doubt.

Dude, listen to it. I'm pretty forgiving of his post-2000 work but I'm completely with Brad, it's by far the best album he's done since the Pumpkins split. There have been great moments in the last 17 years, but this is seriously something else. Sound palette is really nice (all piano/acoustic guitar/strings/mellotron), the songs are really strong, and he sounds like he actually gives a shit for once. He sounds open and vulnerable in a way he hasn't in a really long time. He also sounds happier and more relaxed. It's the most earnest work he's done since Adore. It's the same Pumpkins magic - like, any song on side 1 could fit in on Mellon Collie. I also feel a strange personal investment in Billy's happiness and state of mind that isn't that uncommon with big SP fans and I'm really happy that he sounds like he has his life more or less figured out at this point. It's a great fucking record.

such a great show. the new album is so, so beautiful. this is exactly the context he needs to be in at 50: by himself with a piano and a guitar (and a little bit of harmonica!).

first set was the new record + "If I Were a Carpenter" by Tim Hardin

second set:

Starla
Pale Horse
Muzzle
Of a Broken Heart
Landslide
Annie-Dog
Columbus
Soma
Wish You Were Here
Drum + Fife
Winterlong
Gossamer
Stand Inside Your Love
Tonight, Tonight
---
Spaceboy
Age of Innocence
Farewell and Goodnight

Oceania was the last gasp, IMO.

Pale Horse on piano was great

Oceania was the last gasp, IMO.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that last gasp sure was recent

I fucking love this new album by William Patrick Corgan :-/

it's great :\

that last gasp sure was recent

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:05 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed, but it came after a near-decade of not particularly great music, and was followed by a half-decade of not particularly great music. Including this. So that's... what? One excellent album in nearly 15 years? Yeah. Cool.

this record is much better than oceania but ok dude

yeah no contest this is by far the best thing he's done in many, many years. this is a record i'll be listening to more than a week after release.

also, seeing him play a lot of "lesser" later songs last night on piano/acoustic guitar showed that his ability to write great songs & melodies hasn't diminished as much as he's lost his ear for production & going too far in the studio. he made me like Drum + Fife last night on the piano. Pale Horse was another highlight. thank god for rick rubin

'Pale Horse' is always a highlight.

WPC's voice has so much weird vibrato that it sounds insane when he harmonizes the longer notes in Amarinthe

Turrican -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKGVw4-CN0

I'm suddenly wanting to listen to Oceania again ... 'Panopticon' fucking rules.

lol this video rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_4dx_0Qdk

the second set in LA last night was pretty nuts. he's doing four nights at Hollywood Forever Cemetery, first two nights were the same as the rest of the tour, last night after Ogilala he played:

Jesus is the Sun
Crush
Snail
Purr Snickety
Mayonaise
Rocket
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
In the Arms of Sleep
Galapagos
Shame
Tear
Perfect
Wound
With Every Light
Glass and the Ghost Children
---
The End of the World [Skeeter Davis]
Let Me Give the World To You

wow that’s a fucking setlist

damn

Purr Snickety!

night 4:

I Fall
Space Oddity [David Bowie]
Riverview
Once in a While
Lyric
Eye
Tonight, Tonight
Pinwheels
Soothe
To Sheila
Box of Rain [Grateful Dead]
Friends as Lovers, Lovers as Friends
Spaceboy
Landslide [Fleetwood Mac]
Burnt Orange-Black
---
Stand Inside Your Love
Muzzle

Please tell me you are a witness at all these nights, Flapp

I wish, I'm on the opposite coast. I was really happy with the show I saw in Delaware, I posted the setlist from the second set of that show upthread. Pretty remarkable that he played Soothe and Once in a While, the latter of which hasn't been played since that infamous Cat's Cradle show in early 2000 when Jimmy was out with a "jellyfish sting" and Billy & James played by themselves.

yo flappy i hate to say these words all in one post but: have you listened to billy's recent interview with joe rogan, it's pretty fantastic

yeah it was great! i watched it on friday without reading any of the comments anywhere beforehand because i knew it could go in a lot of different directions. it went as well as it could've gone imo. Billy very humble & interesting & making an effort to get on an even keel with Joe, who clearly had a peripheral knowledge of the Pumpkins at best. it was a good contrast to Billy's appearances on Howard (massive SP fan) where they usually talk mostly about childhood neglect, abuse, trauma. I enjoyed the conversation with Joe about fame, celebrity, and the 'behind the curtain' machinations of show business. fwiw I think Joe gets a bad rap, he's had some shit guests but he's a pretty open-minded and even-keeled and positive guy. I watch/listen to his podcast fairly regularly depending on the guest.

problem seems to be that he is so open-minded that he can convince himself of anything

sure, depending on the guest. he knows very little about a lot. he gets stoned and interviews comedians, rockstars, scientists, academics, his friends, pundits, crazy people. it's fun

stoned guy asking scientist about extrapolations of quantum physics is a state every aged fraternity brother seems to occupy for at least a little while.

hell yeah brother

lol

Great interview!

Billy Corgan - Hollywood Forever Cemetery - November 11, 2017

Set 1, running time 43:06

1. Zowie
2. Processional
3. The Spaniards
4. Aeronaut
5. The Long Goodbye
6. Half-Life of an Autodidact
7. Amarinthe
8. Antietam
9. Mandarynne
10. Shiloh
11. Archer
12. If I Were a Carpenter [ Hardin ]

Set 2 and encore, running time 1:14:07

1. Jesus is the Sun
2. Crush
3. Snail
4. Purr Snickety
5. Mayonaise
6. Rocket
7. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
8. In The Arms of Sleep
9. Galapogos
10. Shame
11. Tear
12. Perfect
13. Wound (abandoned)
14. Wound
15. With Every Light
16. Glass and the Ghost Children
17. [encore break]
18. The End of the World [ Davis ]
19. Let Me Give The World To You

I gotta be honest I've never understood the appeal of "glass and the ghost children", otherwise very cool

Just listened to the interview with Joe Rogan. Not sure if Rogan actually knows anything about SP, as he didn't name any song or album and they didn't talk about the music that much. I was cheered to hear that Billy is self-aware enough to acknowledge that many fans don't want to hear anything about his wrestling ventures -- count me in. Aside from Billy's requisite rant about "the left," he seemed like he was in a good mood. He confirmed he's on good terms with everyone and they're aiming for a full-band reunion next year. It warms the heart!

And funny stories about Rodman and the '90s Bulls.

Okay, so I've actually convinced myself to check out the new album and shit, 'Processional' is a really beautiful song that was totally worth hearing! In fact, I've got no problem with the songwriting or production on this album at all, really... if this record has any flaw, it's that the arrangements expose the flaws in Corgan's voice more than usual (I lost count of the amount of times the autotune kicked in) - I never really got that problem with Adore so much. Anyway, this is a much warmer record than Adore and one I'm glad he made.

So yeah, make that 2 good albums in 17 years.

i told you!!!

hearing reports that the full title was (I Am The Last Person in the World to Find Out About) Hollywood Forever Cemetery

lmao