David Brooks - GANGSTA!

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Checkout Brooks' left hand - is that a philly blunt?? I think it is! Is there anything about gangsta culture Brooks doesn't know??

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Disiz La Peste - C'est toujours ça la France
(album "Jeu de Société", lu 735 fois)

J’ai des choses à dire, je m’appelle disiz
J’suis un peu bronzé, ny name is basané
C’est toujours ca la France …

Eloquence
Année 2.0.0.3, le constat est le même examen de l’hexagone
Faut que sa rime et que ça sonne quand je pose
Militant dans l’âme expose mon combat explose les porcs
Les beaufs explorent ce monde de ouf
J’ai des choses à dire ch’uis anti-sarkozy, anti-Star academy
Mais qu’est qu’en pense disiz ?

Disiz la peste
De nos jours très tôt t’as la trouille
Les traîtres veulent les blacks et les crouilles
Le ton monte d'un cran dans les crews,
L'écran, la timp, l'état, le macro
y’aura plein de numéro d’écrou en France c’est illégal d’être pauvre
attention cache toi dans le trou sinon on te rappatrie dans le bateau
La patrie joue les batârds on t’fera payer les plein pots
Si t’est tard dans le hall, black de peau et que t’entend les pimpons
Sarko, Sarko, Sarko parle fragile comme du placoplâtre
Mets mes frérots black au placard Chirac fait des braco d’appart’
Mais le peuple accepte écarte les cuisses lui donne sa carte d’électeur
C’est ça la France fait gaffe au carotte met ton capteur

Refrain
Eloquence & Disiz la peste
J’ai des choses à dire sombre est l’avenir mais mes refrès m'assistent
Toi qui tize ton pastis vote FN si tu veux, vient me test si te peux
Mais laisse moi faire ma musique pour noir, blanc et arabe
J’ai des choses à dire je m’appelle disiz je suis un peu bronzé
My name is basané c’est toujours ça la France
Un tiers d'hypocrite à moiti collabo
My name is le négro

Disiz la peste
Nous on peut pas faire la grève inutile pas la peine
C’est la merde y’a pas de taff donc pas de grève
Trop peu d’inspiré comme Gyu Degresne
On fuck l’école et on s’engraine
C’est la merde on vit a la One Again

Tolérance zero parait que c’est crédo
Noir, blanc et arabes fumant le bedo sous le même préau
Y’a trop d’escroc Chirac premier délinquant
France convoqué devant le juge n’y va pas arrogance de sa part
Mon rap un rempart face à Le Pen et ses conneries
Eloquence et Disiz, instruction civique sur M.I.C

Refrain
Disiz la peste & Eloquence
J’ai des choses à dire je m’appelle disiz je suis un peu bronzé
My name is basané c’est toujours ça la France
Un tiers d'hypocrite à moiti collabo
My name is le négro
J’ai des choses à dire sombre est l’avenir mais mes refrès m'assistent
Toi qui tize ton pastis vote FN si tu veux, vient me test si te peux
Mais laisse moi faire ma musique pour noir, blanc et arabe

C’est ça la France, complexe, c’est ça la France
C’est ça la France, complexe, c’est ça la France
C’est ça la France, complexe, c’est ça la France

Disiz la peste
Et c'est qui gène les fachos que la jeunesse soit fachée
Martyrs comme des Falachas la chose
C’est chaud faudrait peut être se cacher
C’est ça la France Disiz, Eloquence
Sur un son d’accordéon des couplets blessants

Disiz la peste
Ah l’accordéon, quelle belle musique, quel bel instrument
Eloquence : ah je te le ferai pas dire ça me rappelle la France
Disiz : oh mais quelle talent c’est ça la France quel panache dis leur Eloquence
Eloquence : oh la la magnifique !

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

jody who do you like these days? i've never really ventured beyond saian supa crew's first album, which held my attention for a good long while, it's just incredible. who else sounds modern like that, like they're piving in the present-tense of hiphop? a lot of the french rap i've heard sounds like gangstarr and that's great, but the rhymes and styles often sound behind the curve (sorry i can't think of any names)

Just catching up with this thread...

Tracer Hand: you're right. French rap is almost always a few years behind, production-wise. The key for me are the lyrics, and the rappers' flow. There are some great, great records out there, if you can past the passé beats.

Current listening includes the latest Saian (pretty good). And I'm quite into the new Disiz La Peste.

As for where to start. There's a new IAM comp which has a lot of great stuff on it. The classic IAM release is L'Ecole du Micro d'Argent (1997), considered by many the best French rap album of all-time. Another classic is Suprême NTM's Paris Sous les Bombes (1995) -- worth picking up.

Some other favorites. There's a little group called Scred Connexion, five Algerian kids from Barbès in Paris. I'm crazy about their first record, from five or so years ago. These boys can flow.

TTC are a kind of left-of-center, Beasties-meets-De La Soul type group. Their flow is sick, and the production, for once, is great, too. Check out their debut, Ceci N'est Pas Un Disque (Big Dada). One of my favorite hip-hop albums, period, of the last half-decade.

Arsenik are definitely my favorite French rappers. They're amazing MCs; even if you have no French, you can't help but feel them. (You might know them from a track they did with RZA several years back.) I love Quelques Gouttes Sufissent, a total classic.

Can’t seem to get my Arsenik files uploaded to my server, but I'm throwing up a couple of TTC MP3s (for just a couple of days). Enjoy.

- TTC, Nonscience
- TTC, De Pauvres Riches


Jody, Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Brooks statements take anecdotal evidence of a trend that he percieves but does not really understand, and then apply that evidence to a situation that is ENTIRELY different in hopes of shedding some light on it for people who don't understand.

This is not the first time he's done this, either. A few years back he did an article called "The Organization Kid" about how today's Ivy Leaguers are uptight robots who have to schedule hanging with their friends in their daytimers. Turns out for his research at Princeton, he only spoke to kids that were reccomended by professor, so of course he only spoke to the biggest tools on campus. Oh how we laughed as the rest of us went back to our binge drinking and lipstick parties like the Youth Gone Wild that we are (thanks NYTimes).

yuengling participle (rotten03), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Jody's recommendations bang OTM. I haven't heard the new Saian yet, or Disiz. Must put that right soon.

Two other acts to add:

La Rumeur (especially L'ombre sur la mesure)

Rohff (especially La Vie avant la mort)

Not sure I agree that the French are usually behind the US - TTC certainly are not, have always been in the vanguard IMHO. But then I'm English.

Jeff W (zebedee), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
FUCK ALL FUCKIGN ARABS FUCKSSSS YOUS AINT SHIT,AND I HOPE AMERICA BLWS YA SHIT HOLE OF A COUNTRY UP AHHAHAHAHAHAH GO EUROSTRALIA


AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI

jimMMmy, Sunday, 11 December 2005 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Nobody believes you're a real googler, jimMMmy.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
When I saw this thread was bumped I thought maybe David Brooks wrote something about 3-6.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 6 March 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Taibbi dissects what has got to be one of the worst things Brooks has written in recent memory.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/27/populism-just-like-racism/

KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

WHOA is this the right David Brooks, why is this in ILM, etc.

KORGÜLL THE EXCHEQUER (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

All I know is that David Brooks was a pseudonym used by Genesis P-Orridge in the TG days

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i... do not comprehend this thread entitled "David Brooks - GANGSTA!" that is not about mavado. what is happening here?

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Thankfully that album isn't called David Brooks: A Better Tomorrow. Imagine how confusing that would get for NYTimes editorial readers!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i... do not comprehend this thread entitled "David Brooks - GANGSTA!" that is not about mavado. what is happening here?

― r|t|c, Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:50 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^pretty much my thought process

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

the first album was gangsta 4 life: the symphony of david brooks though!

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 January 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavado_(singer)

lolz, vybz has been at the wiki edit i see

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 January 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"the first album was gangsta 4 life: the symphony of david brooks though!"

Hah I forgot about the subtitle.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 January 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/28/opinion/brooks-the-psych-approach.html?hp

Finally, pop culture has been far out front of policy makers in showing how social dysfunction can ruin lives. You can turn on an episode of “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo,” about a train wreck working-class family. You can turn on “Alaska State Troopers” and see trailer parks filled with drugged-up basket cases. You can listen to rappers like Tyler, The Creator whose songs are angry howls from fatherless men.

would like to see a lab report from the research he's been doing

j., Friday, 28 September 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

His bathroom?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 September 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

He's got his newspaper copy of the New York Times there. He's written about going to Europe to see Springsteen shows but I doubt he has even listened to Tyler on his laptop

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 September 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

srsly can't post enough photos of Brooks lookin pedantic

http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/DavidBrooks.jpg

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

has obviously never watched an ep of honey boo boo before either

flopson, Friday, 28 September 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Turns out studies and findings all agree with him, imagine that.

barranca jagger (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 January 2014 09:59 (ten years ago) link

Paul Krugman is off today.

barranca jagger (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 January 2014 10:00 (ten years ago) link

"I stumbled through it, incapable of putting together simple phrases, feeling like a total loser." No doubt.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 3 January 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link

writing process revealed

bnw, Friday, 3 January 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link

"I stumbled through it, incapable of putting together simple phrases, feeling like a total loser"

so he still smokes it then

I hope footage from that presentation leaks

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:10 (ten years ago) link

"learning about drugs without facing criminal charges should remain an activity solely reserved for the rich"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link

" Others fell deeply in love and got thrills from the enlargements of the heart."

lol

andrew m., Friday, 3 January 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link

My friend died from enlarged heart u asshole!

andrew m., Friday, 3 January 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link

eight years pass...

The 1990s brought astonishing hip-hop — Tupac, Biggie, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang Clan, A Tribe Called Quest, the Fugees — and I got introduced to all of that like everybody else at the time. My hands were writing and editing conservative editorials for The Wall Street Journal; my ears were straight outta Compton.

Brooks otm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

I want to do an AI image rendition of "David Brooks being introduced to Wu-Tang Clan like everybody else at the time."

It’s telling that he writes & edits with his “hands,” not his brain.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

Then there are the times that are just awkward — like the time at a Nas concert when a seven-foot-tall woman in a black bodice came up to me and asked, “What on earth are you doing here?”

haha

jmm, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

Possibly a true story

According to my cousin, @nytdavidbrooks is currently at the Nas/Lauryn Hill concert. I can't begin to process this.

— Hayes Brown (@HayesBrown) November 5, 2012

jmm, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

xp that woman should be paid a good salary to just keep doing that wherever he goes.

JoeStork, Thursday, 24 November 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

I asked, and it was her!

I just texted my cousin and…I think the answer is yes??? https://t.co/1qIj3Eu3oS

— Hayes Brown (@HayesBrown) November 25, 2022

jaymc, Friday, 25 November 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

None of the rappers he mentioned were from Compton,

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 November 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link

lol, thank you jaymc. I had a feeling...

jmm, Friday, 25 November 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

How did you find that old HB tweet?

jaymc, Friday, 25 November 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link

I googled "david brooks nas concert" and that tweet was the second result

jmm, Friday, 25 November 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link

Nice

jaymc, Friday, 25 November 2022 04:36 (one year ago) link

What a night. Usually when I’m up this late it’s because I’m listening to NBA Youngboy.

— David Brooks (@nytdavidbrooks) November 4, 2020

just sayin, Friday, 25 November 2022 09:09 (one year ago) link

Also found this interview where he mentions the concert. He is so proud of having gone to that concert.

https://www.newsweek.com/david-brooks-new-york-times-columnist-narcissism-mockery-and-hip-hop-340318

"I believe that, over the centuries, smart people had incredibly valuable perceptions. But I don't live in the past. People stereotype me as a fogey. I am not. I go to hip-hop concerts."

"Pardon?"

"I listen to Kendrick Lamar. I was at a Nas concert not long ago."

jmm, Friday, 25 November 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Though this is the unassailably best quote imo:

"I had metaphorical moral headphones on. People didn't associate me with an intimate life. Now, when people have a trauma, they talk to me."

Meanwhile the interviewer is needling him the whole time.

jmm, Friday, 25 November 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

"People have traumas after talking to me."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link


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