― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Last night I went to The Fopp to re-buy Blonde on Blonde, but the queue was too long and they kept messing about and I was missing the football.
However, perhaps I would be better off getting Volume 7 instead. Thing is, it's £15, whereas the previous volume was £13.99 (I still have the receipt). That's £1.01 more expensive. Perhaps if I think about it long enough, the urge will pass.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 October 2005 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, I note that Germany has entered a Grand Coalition.
― the bobfox, Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
More troubling is a member of the Animals going uncriticized for opening a bottle with a hotel piano. Does Dylan let pass from a star what he would justly rebuke in an ordinary person? It happened behind Dylan's back. Maybe he was unaware of it.
The LC album is called I'm Your Man.
The Grand Coalition seems to have been shunted off the front pages since last this thread was updated.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
The story I heard is that this take was a home demo. You can also faintly hear a door close after one of the barks.
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
or so the Germans would have you believe... I think careful editing amps up this impression. I do agree that NDH exposes the kind of crap Dylan had to put up with at the time. Or as a recent Stereogum post put it, "Suck On Your Glasses, Judas!" I usually don't laugh out loud at things I find on the Internet, but that did me in.
― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― gewsgf, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
How about 'I Was Young When I Left Home'? Does vol 7 repeat the version issued with Love & Theft; either way, does anyone save me rate the latter? Its very guitar playing seems poignant.
― the bobfox, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
It seems that vol 7, unlike other volumes, repeats existing and possibly familiar material.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Lou Reed NYC Man - a best of, 2 CDs for a fiver, from Fopp. So it was a part-exchange.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Sung with such beauty, control, and weight, I can't get over it. Devastates me every time.
No. It's my single favourite Dylan performance.
― I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link
I like the alternate take of "Stuck Inside of Mobile" the best.
― John Hunter, Friday, 28 October 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I am glad to hear about Vol 7. I'll have to get it!
― the bobfox, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
it was sitting in the back of my memory untill cat power did it so damnedwell...these days i cant decide which i like better...
i've meant to dig up some old versions of it. a co-worker knows it from houseparty sessions when she was a kid..but hasn't pointed to any recorded versions..allmusic herei come
― bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
has anyone bought/heard the starbucks tapes?
― bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― the bobfox, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
So great.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Really enjoying the The Witmark Demos, but as I've been searching out reviews of the set I'm getting a little sick of the Dylan fanatics whining "well I've heard all these before, so this is nothing new and I can't believe they bothered to package this". Gee, thanks, but some of us like to not have to scrounge through tons of bootlegs and will happily pay for this stuff all collected and cleaned up nice.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, yeah, this is a great set, even though i may have been one of the fanatics complaining originally. second disc in particular is just a joy to listen to. i definitely prefer some of the versions here to the album versions.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 November 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I am listening to that second disc now!
I wanted to hear what 'I'll keep it with mine' sounded like in its very first instance.
And now I am hearing 'Boots of Spanish Leather' - my goodness. Such depth he seems to have found, to have plumbed or fallen into.
About 'keep it with mine', have I others mentioned before the basic difficulty with this song, namely that the 'everybody / will help you' line doesn't really fit vs the music, so every cover (and so many covers have occurred) has to solve this problem anew?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
[= have I and / or others mentioned]
― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Just listening to Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (Take 5) from Vol.7. So great.― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 23 November 2005
― the pinefox, Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
my download code for the brandeis vinyl i bought in case anyone wants it:
http://www.myplaydirect.com/bobdylan/redeem_short_pin?cid=lg:4ve&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=retail
code: 349j3p56d57nd72
― scott seward, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone know where i could find a version of "when i paint my masterpiece" from the rolling thunder revue tour?
― Moreno, Sunday, 24 April 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
just uh "replaced" the taped copy I had of the Bootleg Series Volume 2, as I'm sorta going through a mid-60s through the late 70s Bob-listening period at the moment and I am wondering at just how much there really is in the vaults from that '65-'67 period. Volume 2 really only includes a smattering - I have an unauthorized bootleg that I got back in the 90s called "Thin Wild Mercury Music" that has at least a dozen more tracks from the same sessions (Pilot Eyes, Just a Little Glass of Water, numerous alternate versions). Does anybody have any particular insight into this period or resources that would be worth checking out?
Also, did Dylan even tour the US with his electric band during this period? I mean I know about the inaugural folk festival shows and whatnot, but it seems like the live stories/bootlegs from this period are always from the two UK tours.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
also - so glad to finally be hearing this 3/4 version of Like a Rolling Stone again
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
is that the one with the mickey jones replacing levon helm in the band?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure...? it's very short, just over a minute-and-a-half. instrumentation is Bob at the piano, singing and playing harmonica too and I think there's some small electric guitar and organ bits at the end. I'll see if I can find a youtube...
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
wikipedia sez no
The recording sessions were produced by Tom Wilson on June 15–16, 1965, in Studio A of Columbia Records, 799 Seventh Avenue, in New York City.In addition to Bloomfield, the other musicians enlisted were Paul Griffin on piano, Joe Macho, Jr. on bass, Bobby Gregg on drums, and Bruce Langhorne on tambourine, all booked by Wilson. Gregg and Griffin had previously worked with Dylan and Wilson on Bringing It All Back Home. On the first day, five takes of the song were recorded in a markedly different style from the eventual release—a 3/4 waltz time, with Dylan on piano. The lack of sheet music meant the song was played by ear. However the essence of the song was discovered in the course of the chaotic session. They did not reach the first chorus until the fourth take, but after the following harmonica fill Dylan interrupted, saying, "My voice is gone, man. You wanna try it again?" This take was subsequently released on The Bootleg Series Volumes 1–3 (Rare & Unreleased) 1961–1991. The session ended shortly afterwards.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
According to this, he did do an electric tour of the US/Canada in 1966, but the personnel fluctuated. The US/Canada leg of the tour started out with Al Kooper and Levon Helm, and ended up with the rest of the Hawks and Bobby Gregg.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
ah. I've seen Eat the Document, for some reason I thought all that footage was from the UK tours. Not that there's a lot of um, explication in that film.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
Tyler had a boot up from one of the US dates on his blog.
― Lady Writer, Male Seether (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
There was also a mult-disc Bootleg Series release through Sony Japan only, with little publicity. Yet another reminder of just how crazy he is, to sideline something this good (like leaving the Desire sessions' "Golden Loom" in the can so long, in favor of shit like "Joey"). It ranges from the very early 60s, when he sounds like a mean ol' compelling preacher man on "Wade In The Water". to the late '90s, I think. A few prev released tracks, but nothing too obvious. He even reads 60s poetry from the stage, way better than most of the stuff on back album jackets (before John Wesley Harding, that is). Telltale Signs is mostly excellent too, although it's mostly about lost love, gotta be ready for that(the music's always good)(of course I'm just talking about the double-disc, but you could probably get everything on the third disc from the bargain bin or downloads, for much, much less than the full edition, though still wouldn't have the book, boo-hoo)
― dow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
there seem to be a handful of outtakes from his 65-67 studio sessions that I can't find:
CaliforniaYou Don't Have to Do ThatWhy Do You Have to Be So Frantic?
and then I guess various alternate versions of some things...
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
Also see Tyler's link to Renaldo and Clara on YouTube, speaking of Rolling Thunder. I haven't heard the Bootleg Series Rolling Thunder, don't know how it compares with thar (the old Hard Rain live LP has some good R Thunder performances). It's 3' 36", but very episodic, no prob with breaks. Don't know why it got such bad reviews: you get mostly really good, already speculative re-arrangements of songs from early 60s to recent past, and the whole thing is also a continuation of the troubled relationship dynamic on Blood On The Tracks--not a rolling cinematic break-up album, but scenes with restless,wry, sly, not-buyin'-any-alibis women, and somewhat befuddled men, the latter inching towards middle-aged crazy. (The actually middle-aged men, like Ronny Hawkins, Allen Ginsberg and Ramblin' Jack, thrive in the spotlight.) Great sound and pungent 70s dirty silver screen visuals (Dyl had already made the Scorsese connection after all, and maybe thinkin Cassavetes, Pennebacker of course, hoping for success like that of Altman's Nashville, or Led Zep's Song Remains The Same, it's kind of in between those)
― dow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
another question:
what the hell was Dylan doing between New Morning and Pat Garrett? So weird that he went so long without releasing anything except a couple random largely ignored singles
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
I may have the chronology wrong, but I think that's around when Bob was trying to shake off any number of stalkers (Weberman and the like). Since putting out a crap record (Self Portrait) on purpose didn't throw people off his trail, he probably decided to clam up entirely.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link