NEW YORK v boston

Now you've crossed the line! Though our pizza, cheesecake and bagels have much to be desired, life out West beats the living hell out any life I had back East. The weather is better. The pay is better. The drugs are better. And, there are as many New Yorkers here as there are in New York!

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  http://www.brownalumnimagazine.com/storydetail.cfm?ID=1476
  The sophomores, in an attempt to remind the freshmen of their true place in the hierarchy of classes, kidnapped the 1932 class president and lit the bonfire a night early. In response to these insults, pajama-clad freshmen gathered on the Green shortly before 8 p.m. on May 29. According to a Providence Journal report written that night, the freshmen started their celebration by smashing windows in Hope Hall, then headed down College Hill, setting off fire alarms along their path. As the freshmen snake-danced their way down Westminster Street, some fired revolvers into the air, while others carried red flares and lit Roman candles.

  Emboldened by "a disorderly town element," as the BAM commented in its coverage of the melee, the students quickly clashed with police. Before almost 1,000 onlookers, police officers pushed students back from the Arcadia ballroom as they attempted to storm past a barricade. The freshmen then turned toward the trolley tunnel and threw rocks and firecrackers at the sixty patrolmen now blocking its entrance. "The police charged," the Journal reported in the next day's edition, "swinging out with their nightsticks, hitting students and spectators alike."

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  http://www.vad.freehosting.net/urbansites/us_providence_ri_eastside.htm
  The tunnel was apparently still in use in 1978, according to the notes from the Inventory of Historic Engineering Sites. It was easily accessible, and the accessibility was taken advantage of in particular by RI School of Design students and Brown students. At some point, presumably around when the Seekonk bridge became a permanently vertical structure, the trains stopped running.

  A large party in the tunnel (an annual event for RISD students, apparently) sometime in the early 90s (1994, according to the grapevine) got out of hand, and police attempted to quell it. A police car was overturned in the melee, the local press reported that satanic rituals had been the norm for the subterranean celebrators, and the tunnel was closed with thick corrugated steel, pierced at each end only by a locked door. The locks have since been removed; as of the summer of 99 both ends of the tunnel are open.
  

Isis

Thanks to a Frank Kogan mention of them I picked the album up. Not quite what I was expecting but still very good (Chuck Eddy's description of how concerts for bands like these should be sit down art events was spot on -- but unlike Godspeed, I have a feeling I wouldn't fall asleep).

Yeah, but in San Francisco you can smoke pot in the venue.

Sure, everyone's moving back east to smoke a Newport.

So what? New York had Lydia Lunch so you.... OH CRAP?!?!? I guess you do win!

Don't forget the obligatory _____________(insert your favorite monrity group here) bashing.

See, that's what it's all about, baby.

Metal scene: bash all mod/new wave disco -philes
REM/alt rocker scene: bash all other music deemed noty-hip ie: non-alt rock crap
Punk scene: bash all wanker music Re: all non-punk
Hardcore punk scene: bash all music except hardcore; especially wimpy punk like EMO, commercial stuff like the Offspring and Henry Rollins
... and on and on and on...

The last time I was in New York I got mugged outside of the Sbarro' on Times Square at 3PM. No one helped me. I didn't lose a lot of money but my wallet with a few precious pictures, a couple of credit cards were taken from. No one helped me as I struggled with the beast who kicked me in the side after I was beaten in the face and thrown to the ground. Utterly humiliating. All this justified for a few french fries after midnight? I guess those really expensive small ass apartments with unmotivated supers makes up for all of that... along with the throngs of beggars, thieves, drug addicts, dope pushers and talentless musicians cluttering the streets day and night in front of those shops selling pommes frites to all hours and all manner of men, women and thugs.

Bravo! Bravo!

Mohawks rule, man!The only flick where Jody Foster was HOT. If it weren't for this film I never would have moved to NYC.

Oh yeah, `cos you don't have these in other cities, of course.

I totally agree. Best pizza in New York is V&T, up by Columbia. Best pizza anywhere, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but I've lived here most of my life and I've NEVER been mugged, assaulted, or anything like that.

Yes, Alex, other cities do have druggies, pimps, whores, thieves, maggots and other bits and pieces of flotsom and jetsom. However, they are not the thundering heard they are in NYC nor are they considered part of the normal social landscape as they are in the big apple. What kind of person loses his shit just because they can get a corned beef sandwich made to order at three in the morning? I guess it is the same kind of person who can't see that it's the same place where there is a rape happening in broad daylight in front of a subway car full of deaf dumb and blind folks every fifteen minutes.

*mutters under breath*

do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll
do not feed the troll

From Boston
The Zulu's - overlooked and underrated by everyone who never saw them live.
The Lyres - another phenomenal live band - Cantones, anyone?
Peste
Volcano Suns
Mission Of Burma
The Freeze - Ok, they were from the Cape, but close enough dammit!

From NY
Ramones

Ok - NY wins

Ok - NY wins

-- Davlo (daveloe...), February 13th, 2003.

Right on, brother!

I don't know, Alex... looks like we got a toss up here.

Oh, Orca. I did not think I could get much more excited than the imagery of Mission of Burma in close proximity to Famous Ray's, but you had to then bring up KATZ DELICATESSEN!!!!

My goodness, and all the "Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army" imagery.

Excuse me for a few moments....

... sounds like a sound-bite from Cheech and Chong's WEDDING ALBUM.

both places are so so dead right now, unless you count the endless armies of hipster idiots. maybe its just me though, but there was a period in the early 90's when i was going back and forth between the two cities watching band after amazing band.

DRESDEN DOLLS ON JIMMY KIMMEL TONIGHT!

me, i just wanna move to the mountains.

& what sort of fool compares anything to NYC. whats next, 2% milk verus pure uncut heroin? the amazon river versus a puddle of piss?

Well, the lack of good bands in Boston does give me confidence in my music!

Worchester seems to have a lot of Noize stuff going on.

Also, thanks for the Dresden Dolls tip kephm....

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xpost: stence, is that a joke? no shit

(sonic youth were from CT(kim), etc, Rapture are from Cali, AND SO ON!)