What is the State of the Union?

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Poor Teddy K. looked like he could have used a couple of cold ones.

Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

I think they were definitely being ballsy, taking advantage of his pause before he said how important it was the Patriot Act NOT expire.

The best part of this little exchange was that after they took advantage of his pause to applaud the Patriot Act expiring, his next line was something like, "but the threat of terrorism will not expire" and the Republicans tried to make up for the Democrats' applause by applauding his next line, so it was like "Yes! More terrorism! Go Bush!"

BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

Laura Bush has devil eyes.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

Pledging a gabillion dollars to promote abstinence to teenagers? Why not save time and trouble and just flush the money directly down the toilet?

Intravenus De Milo, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

"We must find the penises and vagina's of mass destruction."

Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

Given: Most (if not all) teens want to have sex.
Given: Abstinence is the most effective method of contraception/STD protection.

Question: Why is it unreasonable to promote abstinence? (I do not support throwing a gabillion dollars into it, but then again I don't support throwing a gabillion dollars into any one thing that isn't my bank account.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

Question: Why is it unreasonable to promote abstinence?

Because clearly the better answer is to promote the cloned development of antiseptic fuck machines for our nation's youth. A nation of Pris or Gigolo Joe robots for all!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

I like the cut of your jib, good sir. Would you like to be on my cabinet when I announce my 2008 candidacy?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

I am most glad to serve as the Power Behind the Throne. Er, as your devoted assistant.

(Promoting abstinence while at the same time going into an in-depth p.r. campaign about why masturbation isn't Wrong and Evil might be a start, but as Jocelyn Elders found out, apparently some people object.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

(I thought the thing people hated about Jocelyn Elders was when she'd ask for volunteers from the audience in the middle of her presentations.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago) link

(I think they were objecting to being forced to decide whether they were the masturbator or the masturbatee.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

the solution to that is obvious, then: make either Brittany Spears or JLo the Surgeon General!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

I beg to differ (for one thing, what are gay males and straight females supposed to do?).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

The same thing the straight males and gay females are doing?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

then appoint someone who gay males and straight females find sexy to be the co-Surgeon General.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

The same thing the straight males and gay females are doing?

Ignoring those two as fantasy figures? I'm all for that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still pissed off that I can't find a photo of bush spilling cheney's water. im sure cheney will make him rue the day..

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Did you guys catch ""weapons of mass destruction-related program activities" - haha Clinton would have been crucified on talk radio for that

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

ans to thread question: Barry. Fucking. Weird.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:15 (twenty years ago) link

nation split on whether they liked it, compared with 70-something percent last year and 90-something percent in 2002

gary kamiya has an ecellent article about it at Salon.com despite the fact that no one reads Salon.com anymore, and have neither do i ok, in fact i have no idea how i know about kamiya's article, i just SUSPECT it may be on Salon.com

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

Question: Why is it unreasonable to promote abstinence? (I do not support throwing a gabillion dollars into it, but then again I don't support throwing a gabillion dollars into any one thing that isn't my bank account.)

I suspect that this part of the speech was a stealth way of placating the anti-abortion lobby without actually saying the "a" word.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:35 (twenty years ago) link


You can balk, or you can fling
You don't have to know a thing
I drank all my roommate's booze
Cuz, this damn nation's born to lose
My brother said that we were dead
I saw his face and shook my head
Can't you see where we could be
We're losing our men overseas..

'Cause it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's numbing our innovation
Yes, it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's boring ourselves, again
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing deprivation
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing mass destruction

From my home I've looked for jobs
I've got no response, or calls from knobs
When I broke down, I shit my pants
'Cause I can't shit, when i'd rather dance
I don't find that I have been
deprived of drinking all my gin
If that's the case, then who could tell
Where my story had begun?

'Cause it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's numbing our innovation
Yes, it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's boring ourselves, again
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing deprivation
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing mass destruction

Yes even now, I'm still alone
Behind a wall that's made of stone
I think about where we have been
And all the sights that could be seen
I know it all could be worthwhile
If only I could force a smile
Now we turn ourselves back to TV
The truth of a nation we'll never see

'Cause it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's numbing our innovation
Yes, it's the state of the union
(state of the union)
That's boring ourselves, again
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing deprivation
Oh, the state of the union
(state of the union)
Is causing mass destruction

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:49 (twenty years ago) link

Wow. I think you win.

sym (shmuel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

then again I don't support throwing a gabillion dollars into any one thing that isn't my bank account.

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Momus (Momus), Thursday, 22 January 2004 09:08 (twenty years ago) link

neat little bit of criticism & actual CONTEXT from USA Today

shocking that it's from them, i'm sure.

Huggy Dork (Kingfish), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/01/sotu-address.htm

georgo washington, Monday, 26 January 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

What Bush said: "Americans took those dollars (from tax cuts) and put them to work, driving this economy forward. ... Jobs are on the rise."

Context: Economists say a real job recovery is just around the corner. Numerous indicators show the economy roaring back from a mild recession. But analysts are frustrated by the job market's stubborn weakness.

Course, you can't rally the jobless majority with the truth....plus it ain't as catchy.

Factors holding down job growth: New technology has allowed many companies to do more with fewer workers; relentless pressure to cut costs has encouraged firms to move jobs abroad; surging health care costs make U.S. workers expensive to employ; and terrorism and corporate scandals have left CEOs wary of costly, long-term risks. Washington can't do much about this in the short run.

Since when did jobless = ignorant? Grandstanding aside, having more time means that we can actually read and process statistics. We'll belive the bull when our relatives actually get work.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 26 January 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

"jobs are on the rise" = totally innaccurate from any standpoint surely?

a) Not necessarily, if you're willing to work at Wal-Mart.

b) From a macroeconomic perspective, jobs are undoubtedly up from some selected point. But I wish some pundits' jobs could be outsourced overseas.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 26 January 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

Im bored. My union sucks.

El Spinktor (El Spinktor), Monday, 26 January 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link


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