Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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You guys are misjudging that Twin Peaks was all Lynch's ideas... Mark Frost (Hill Street Blues, $6 Million Man) had a huge hand in overseeing the writing and production of the series.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

amateurist was supposed to loan me his tapes of season 2, but forgot to bring them to our party and now he's in Italy. :(

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost
true, gygax!, true. which really goes to show that, whatever you think of how successful TP as a product, it's certainly up there with a handful of shows as the most "WTF!?" thing on TV ever. as in how did this happen? who gave the green light to this? and who do i thank for doing so?

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 8 October 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't the 2nd season supposed to come out on DVD this Fall?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman should get some credit too as a progenitor.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

nothing in TP is really that much crazier than shit that goes on in the regular soaps.

I always thought that was part of the point. You have to remember this came on toward the end of the primetime soap era (Dallas-Dynasty-Falcon Crest). I remember an interview where Lynch, typically deadpan, said he didn't see why people thought it was weird, it looked just like a regular TV show to him. A lot of people took that as a put-on, but I think he was just acknowledging how weird "normal" TV shows really are.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 October 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

In case of anyone's interested, here's the latest news on the Twin Peaks DVD situation from www.lynchnet.com

Here's the latest DVD news from www.lynchnet.com

"It's almost the end of 2004 and the big question everyone is asking is, what's up with Season Two of Twin Peaks on dvd? Well, here's the latest. Our sources within Paramount say it's almost a sure thing that you'll see Season Two, as well as a re-release of Season One with the Pilot included, released by Paramount as soon as the rights revert back to them around September 2005. The current rights holder, Lion's Gate (formally Artisan) has no plans to further exploit Twin Peaks or any of it's Spelling Entertainment titles due to the short time frame they have before the rights are lost. So it's all up to Paramount now. Our sources also tell us that part of the reason for the delay of Season Two in other international regions is to have one big release worldwide around the same time in every country, US included. So for you folks overseas, you're also being affected by the rights issue here in the US. The other, though somewhat lesser reason for the delay is to allow more time to work on bonus features. But Paramount is committed to TV on dvd in a big way, and is eager to exploit all the Spelling holdings once they get the rights back, Twin Peaks and Beverly Hills 90210 being the first two they are planning on releasing. Keep in mind that none of this constitutes an official announcment, so these plans are always subject to change. But it looks like there's a good chance we'll finally get to see Season Two on dvd in 2005."

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Sunday, 10 October 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
More Twin Peaks DVD news. The forthcoming release will benefit from brand new video transfers and work is being done on extra features.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, thanks for the info. I just rented an import of the pilot, but I started it and the quality is sub-par. I think I'll just wait for this re-release.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

what forthcoming release? are they finally putting the second season out?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, there are unofficial rumors of the 2nd season in DVD production.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes. Paramount have now got the rights to Twin Peaks. I don't know if they will be re-releasing the first season, but I do know that reading various sources ( www.lynch.net and www.tvshowsondvd.com ) that they are working on a worldwide release of season 2 to be made available at some point later this year.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

dood they should put out the second half of the first season before they do the second season... I love the first DVD package but its woefully incomplete (only the first half dozen episodes, and its missing the premiere)

That being said: one of the best shows on American TV ever, period. We will never see anything this weird and idiosyncratic on network TV ever again. The fact that it got made and broadcast at all is a minor miracle.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

and if they reissue a Season One DVD set, will they retain the totally awesome package design w/the transparency of Laura's class picture laid over her corpse?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost: The first season DVD was complete; the show started airing in the spring.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

really? geez, the second season has a lot more episodes than the first then... for some reason I thought the first season ended with the Leland Palmer breakdown/murder solved! episode.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah it was a short season in the spring, with a cliffhanger over the summer with Cooper getting shot. Then the second season started in the fall, with the Leland story wrapping up around christmas.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't the end of season 2 ("How's Annie? How's Annie?") just totally shit-your-pants scary or was it just me?

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

you mean this?
http://www.twinpeaks.hpg.ig.com.br/image091.jpg

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

uber-creepy. great ending.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

i've been watching both seasons of TP via bittorrent over the last month or so. its a lot more coherent than i remember it being (well, up to the middle of series 2 anyway). also, its very funny. Albert the cynical FBI guy is comedy gold.

zappi (joni), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't the second season start with that impossibly long scene of cooper on the floor of his room in the great northern and the old man bringing the glass of milk and not helping with his injury and andy yelling "agent cooper!" over and over on the phone?????

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

yes! and the giant appears and tells cooper 3 things that he has to remember.

zappi (joni), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the second season premiere (which was like one of the most anticipated tv episodes ever - don't forget that twin peaks was initially a HUGE tv smash, big ratings, mag covers etc) was filled with david lynch tests the patience of his viewers craziness. god bless him.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

si, Senor Droolcup es muey bueno

Albert is likewise hilarious.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"The owls are not what they seem"
"Without chemicals, he points"
what was the third one?

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"That gum you like is going to ... come back in style."

Also:
God, how hot was Madchen Amick?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, the gum thing gives Leland away at the Roadhouse later on.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

that was one of the dwarf's lines, though.
(He's amazing in Carnivale btw, with a Humphrey Bogart kind of cool)

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

madchen amick was SO hot, sherilyn fenn too, how the hell laura flynn boyle ends up the one we're stuck with fifteen years later is a mystery

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the dwarf says it too, but I can't remember the sequencing of it - I think that's in one of the later Black Lodge sequences, in the red room...? At the Roadhouse Leland's offered a stick of gum by someone and he recognizes it from his childhood - then they take him to the station and arrest him and he goes loony.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

yeh Sherilyn's tops TP woman in my book. I always though LFB was pretty bleh, compared with much of the other stellar acting.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Now I remember, the giants says "There is a man in a smiling bag"
Later Cooper sees a "smiling" body bag used to house Jacques.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Every once in awhile, me or my dad will launch into that "TWELVE RAINBOW TROUTS IN THE CAB" speech fisherman dude gave the cops about his stolen truck. It's the roffle moments I always forget about in TP.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I think there's supposed to be some symbolism (Arthurian?) in that twelve rainbow trouts riff, but I can't remember off-hand what it is... either way, great bit.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"I'm a whole damn town!"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Christ as Fisher of Men, 12 Fish = 12 Apostles
Fisher King = King Arthur

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The smiling bag clue was the first, I think. "Without chemicals, he points" was the final clue, and it came true when the one-armed man, without his medication, pointed at Leland (but Cooper didn't see/realize it, if I remember correctly).

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 24 February 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

did paramount get the rights to the pilot as well? Spencer: right now even the box set of the first season doesn't include the pilot because the rights were owned by someone else, so the only way to see the pilot is on that import dvd (which has a speed problem, everything runs slightly fast)

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the second season premiere (which was like one of the most anticipated tv episodes ever - don't forget that twin peaks was initially a HUGE tv smash, big ratings, mag covers etc) was filled with david lynch tests the patience of his viewers craziness. god bless him.

i love those parts. where he fucks with scene duration. a scene in which nothing happens plotwise will take 5 minutes (an eternity in tv time). the best example is the "playtime" homage in the final episode, where the old codger takes what seems to be a full hour getting from one end of the bank to the other. also the very beginning of that episode, with sherriff truman and andy as audience surrogates, anxious waiting for cooper to come out of the black lodge, and IIRC discussing coffee (naturally).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

More Twin Peaks DVD news. The forthcoming release will benefit from brand new video transfers and work is being done on extra features.

Nice. I'm glad I've held off all this time on the DVDs, patience has its virtues...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, i really doubt they'll be re-releasing the existing season one dvds....

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

EXTRA FEATURES. They'll use them to rerelease anything.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

do you an extra feature could involve only putting out the episodes that lynch directed himself?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

s'only like 5 or so

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

what lynch directed:

- the two-hour pilot
- six episodes of the series (including, i believe, one two-hour episode at the begining of season two)
- "twin peaks: fire walk with me"
- "the twin peaks holiday special" (hosted by lou diamond phillips and featuring the animated dwarf and giant vaudeville duo)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Another update from www.dugpa.com

"February 15th 2004
Latest Rumor for Release Dates of Twin Peaks Season 2 in Europe Region 2
Leonard Krantz sends me an email today stating that Paramount will be releasing the Twin Peaks Season 2 DVD set split up into two box sets containing 4 discs each. The first to be released on September 22nd, 2005, and the second half on October 20th 2005. The set is supposed to contain new video transfers, 5.1 newly re-mastered audio, and extras to be announced. I'm looking into this rumor, but so far, it sounds pretty dead on. Eventually a US release will follow."

also

"February 4th 2005
New Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Documentary In the Works
A new documentary based on the film Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me is in the works. If you or anyone you know were on the set during filming and have any stories or photos that you would like to share for possible inclusion in this documentary, please send an email to the following address: fwwmdoc-submit@yahoo.com. More details shortly."

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Friday, 25 February 2005 07:26 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
The DVD release of Twin Peaks from Paramount has now been delayed until spring 2006. This is give them time to work on the picture/sound for the release - apparently David Lynch himself is involved in the remastering process. I know it's another delay, but at least it sounds like Paramount is committed to bringing out a quality product.


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

This is gonna turn out to be like that MBV box set, isn't it....

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 13 May 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I am a patient man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link


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