They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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I rewatched this and...it’s still good.

It’s funny that Scott made the Martian, an optimistic paean to scientific competence and human ingenuity, nearly back-to-back with this gleefully misanthropic Gothic sci-fI meatloaf with extra ketchup.

It’s as if the humans in these prequels are as David the android sees them: vain, short-sighted, foolish, doomed. There’s a lot in common here with the implicit worldview of Scott’s other recent-ish flick The Counselor. Possibly Hannibal too. A hostile universe teeming with predators of all sorts.

So in essence what I’m trying to say is I that want a scene where an alien humps the windshield of a convertible.

The Marmadook (latebloomer), Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

that was basically in this movie, and it was terrible

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 15 October 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

No one understands the lonely perfection of my dreams

The Marmadook (latebloomer), Sunday, 15 October 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

The Counselor was such a hilarious misfire, latebloomer otm

mh, Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

except instead of "engineers" he said "navigators" by mistake

well it was originally the pilot aka space jockey, till scott decided this fabulous unheimlich biomechanoid was just a guy in a suit.

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

still hoping for a new retcon that establish that the space jockeys are actually the Protoculture or at least the Zentradi

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

yep i entirely understand the mistake i just want to see more of this dude:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/fb/3b/48fb3b245b85cb5b987fcab224c397ba.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

robotech crossover already happened
https://i.imgur.com/F8M0Nlf.png

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

When the Zentraedi attacked Macross island the Prometheus aided in the defense of the SDF-1. Supplying fighter planes and squads to back up the islands defenses, the Prometheus held in the ocean as the SDF-1 launched into space.

When the SDF-1 activated its low orbit atmospheric hyperspace fold it transported the Prometheus to the far orbit of Pluto. With the Carrier not being space functional or flight capable the SDF-1 immediately docked the Prometheus on the Port side. (Left side) After it was docked the Carrier provided great support, with it's extra fighter squadrons and flight deck, which launched the planes throughout the show. Prometheus was destroyed along with the SDF-1 later on Earth during Khyron's attack on New Macross City.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 16 October 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

Am done with Covenant. I started to enjoy at at one point, after they set down on the planet, as a slick but still ridiculous b-movie - well I laughed when the lander blew up anyway. But it tanked again when David showed up, hard to pinpoint the absolute nadir in a sea of minima but I think it was when he taught the new born alien to macarena.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 08:00 (six years ago) link

ayyyyy i'm chestburstin' over heah

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Ah, Riddles.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/04/ridley-scott-alien-franchise-covenant/

“People say, ‘You need more alien, you need more face pulling, need more chest bursting,’ so I put a lot of that in Covenant and it fitted nicely. But I think if you go again you need to start finding another solution that’s more interesting. I think AI is becoming much more dangerous and therefore more interesting....

“They put two AIs together and they were communing. It already invented a f—ing language! And they couldn’t decipher what the language was so they had to switch them off. What was said and where’s it gone? They could have already implemented something we don’t know.”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

“They put two AIs together and they were communing. It already invented a fingering language!

Dic Space has been contacted for comment. (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

Pray this doesn't mean he is planning a remake of Colossus: The Forbin Project.

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

I’m all for it. I really liked Covenant (don’t @ me) and the evolution of David into a mad scientist/Hannibal Lecter-type figure. A psychotic android wreaking havoc in space? Break out the flutes and sign me up!

The Spilling of a Sacred Beer (latebloomer), Monday, 4 December 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

A remake of Colossus: The Forbin Project is long overdue imo, but I'd probably rather have Wes Anderson do it

El Tomboto, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

I'll admit I enjoyed Alien 3 - Assembly Cut, but why did they remove the theatrical ending?

I'm Finn thanks, don't mention it (fionnland), Sunday, 20 May 2018 09:32 (five years ago) link

the chest-bursting was a last minute decision iirc mainly encouraged by producers, i think fincher (or someone else) found it tasteless

as obvious as it is i think it makes the scene more powerful, it’s super awkward to just see ripley falling into the lava

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 May 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link

i also prefer the dog to the ox

but the scene in the infirmary, with the drooping alien shadow in the mattress, is so much better than what happens in the theatrical cut

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 May 2018 12:45 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

i am rewatching GODS OF EGYPT again btw

mark s, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

what is wrong with u ffs

CRABCORE’S NOT DEAD (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

i cleave to the ancient beliefs

mark s, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

which include: the lesbian asps in the hellraiser maze are good not bad

mark s, Saturday, 22 September 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

lol i finally watched ALIEN: COVENANT (2017) on the telly

(sadly GODS OF EGYPT wasn't on)

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:05 (four years ago) link

it risibly failed to answer my metaphysical questions abt who made the alien tbqh, ridley i await yr next franchise release with some impatience and a clipboard of worries

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link

Given that it's Gladiator 2, you won't be alone in having some questions.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link

WHY WEREN'T YOU ENTERTAINED??!!!

papa stank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link

ancient romans encountering the alien would be fucking amazing.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:32 (four years ago) link

Alien vs. Gladiator!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link

how many lights do i have to greenlight here.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:35 (four years ago) link

"Tiberius! This is your son, Drusus! You know that new form of capital punishment you were looking for?"

papa stank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:36 (four years ago) link

Aliens built the aqueducts!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 January 2020 00:39 (four years ago) link

"my name is maximus decimus meridius, commander of the armies of the north, general of the felix legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, marcus aurelius. father to a facehuggered son, husband to a chestbursted wife. and i will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 January 2020 07:39 (four years ago) link

mark did u enjoy the many scenes of android fingering

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 January 2020 07:39 (four years ago) link

my clipboard questions in full:
who made the chestburster?
why?
what does the alien MEAN?
— do severed heads really float?
— who does david think wrote the better version of ozymandias (viz horace smith's version)?
— more on smith's ozymandias: "In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,/Stands a gigantic Leg… "
— also: "Naught but the Leg remaining to disclose/The site of this forgotten Babylon"
— do severed legs really float?

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 10:50 (four years ago) link

anyway i quite enjoyed it i guess as a tick-the-boxes sat-night-TV rehash of little but familiar elements of Alien 1-3 -- more than i did THE SKYWALKERS ARE BACK GUYS -- AND THEY'RE SITHS or whatever it's called -- without feeling it made a case for itself even as strong as ALIEN vs PREDATOR 2: WE'RE IN A PYRAMID, A MOTHERFUCKING ANTARCTIC PYRAMID's case for itself. i liked how it tackle the problem of the engineers (= fuck em) and generally zoned out during all the androids tea-party sections (david switching his rolemodel from lawrence of arabia to the hopkins version of hannibal lecter ensured there was little need to watch any of these anyway) (david and walter shd have gone with duelling irish accents IMO: michael collins vs de valera maybe)

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

The *twist*, if it can be called that, was so eyerolly

papa stank (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 January 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

yeah, at least he wasn't wearing an evil robot mustache.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 January 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

still amused by the thought of noomi rapace cobbling together an entire new body for david out of fuck knows what on an almost entirely empty engineer ship

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 January 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

"ozymandias is by byron you know, and it's good!"

http://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/k456-Nam-June-Paik-K456_p1-x640.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

‘let me unlock for you the secrets of effective fingering’

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G3434R/artificial-intelligence-experimental-robot-search-future-G3434R.jpg

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYDW2A5-Cbw

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 January 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

I never quite figured out whether that planet was meant to be engineer homeworld, I suppose it was.

I thought the exposition - jumping to flashback to show David bionuking all those dudes - was a stupid decision that detracted from the tension. Better to have had him walking around the skeletons saying what he'd done or lying about it or whatever. Getting to see the engineer homeworld was always going to be anticlimactic. Oh, they look like humans and wear robes.

I thought the landscape was gorgeous and I really wish it could just have been a temperate planet but with xenomorph spores on it - looks nice, but actually a horrible place of death. Unusual to see xenomorphs in such a setting, don't think we've seen it before in the franchise? But no, must have a load of cosmic non plot.

Wasn't sure if he was supposed to have killed Noomi or what. Was that her body or a sculpture? He used her to make the alien out of?

Then at the end the pay off is just ... a regular seen it before soldier alien going round a spaceship killing people. And with none of the wtf claustrophobic atmosphere of Alien.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 12 January 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

And the decision to go off course in the first place was unbelievably badly acted, like there was no feeling of resistance at all.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 12 January 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link

alien vs predator: requiem actually does begin in the forest outside gunnison, colorado, but it's mostly at night or in the sewers or indoors so it mostly doesn't look like forest

(the antarctic pyramid one i mentioned upthread is 1 not 2)

mark s, Sunday, 12 January 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link

and that's why alien vs predator 1 is an awesome movie

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 January 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

finding that cardamon post really soothing and well-paced

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 January 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

I thought the exposition - jumping to flashback to show David bionuking all those dudes - was a stupid decision

idk i think this is like the best part of the movie

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 January 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link

a movie i really like tbf

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 January 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link


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