Brand New: emo beacon or lesser light?

i have a new favorite every night. this album gives and gives. listening to new music from this band (my favorite in high school/early college 10 years ago) when it's THIS GOOD fills me with a unique sort of nostalgia. or a sense of completeness/closure, idk

kev you should check out
thread of best rock album of year 2017, 'a black mile to the surface' by manchester orchestra

ha yeah i remember digging manchester orchestra a little back in the day, they toured with brand new at least once iirc. ill give it a spin

yeah I saw them together around 2009

first time I listened to the intro to SF I was afraid Jesse had gone full Tom Delonge

and then the first few strums of Can't Get Out had me thinking he'd gone full Jeff Mangum

jesse is an obsessive NMH fan, if you heard something it's quite possibly intentional

I THOUGHT I WAS A CREATOR
NOW I'M JUST HANGING AROUND
GOT MY MESSIAH IMPRESSION
YEAH THINK I GOT IT NAILED DOWN

otm

cool show last night at the worst venue ever. jesse said we're gonna see them a couple more times in the next 14 months in chicago, whatever that means

I only just caught the "nailed down" pun lol

+ hangin around

i just realized that the reason "i am a nightmare" is so awesome is because it's basically a gaslight anthem song

The show was amazing tonight but two notes 1) Jessie clearly hates deja ententu only played two songs from it and before sic transit he sarcastically said “the hit song” 2) I think he’s super depressed? I mean the new material is bleak af he’s playing lots of daisy not really engaging with the audience lots of dark imagery of soldiers in the background. But great show. But I hope he’s okay.

honestly that was one of my first thoughts when I first heard the new album

he’s playing lots of daisy

is this a euphemism for.. drugs?

the album

lol i don't know the first thing about their catalogue other than having sic transit gloria on a burned cdr in high school. checking out the 'devil and jesus' album u guys were talking about rn tho

flopson!

starting my emo phase late at 26

haha i just listened to YFW -> DE -> 2006 all in succession on a car ride last night and it brought be straight back to high school, screaming out all the lyrics in the car alone. if you like the new album i'd start with devil and god and then work backwards to see how much you can stomach. the old stuff is good for what it is (music for kids) but it's not something i can really imagine listening to all the time anymore

this new album has pretty much cemented brand new as one of my all-time favorite bands tho, or at least made me a little more willing to say that in public lol

2006 demos, i mean

JUST JEALOUS CAUSE WERE YOUNG AND IN LOVE

starting my emo phase late at 26

I did this too and I recommend it highly

i've been thinking about what my brand new POX would be and i'm not ready for the full list yet, but after listening to the old stuff last night (and TDAG a couple of times last week) i think these are probably safe

soco amaretto lime
the boy who blocked his own shot
jesus christ
in the water
batter up

Kev and Flopson you missed out on the emo poll.

(the rest will be from TDAG and on)

xp spottie i really never dove deep enough into enough back in the day to have a truly informed vote, i was more into rap at that point in my life

Yah I was heavy into both in my early-mid 20s

i listened to 3 emo albums in my life at present, including this one lol

i loved atdi in hs but ito rock shit i was p much excluse the 'garage' scene (broadly defined) in my early twenties, no regrets as i had the time of my life playing and going to shows twice a week. the only ppl i knew into emo then were more about the mathy/post-hardcore end of it; i think i wasn't fully aware of how fully good emo bangs as conventional rock music

i havent listened to much "emo" music in like a decade, so maybe the scene itself has changed, but if science fiction is seen as an emo album it probably has more to do with the band's historic association with that scene than it does with the actual music

i mean this is just a rock album

it's post-emo

chorus of same logic is straight emo imo

yeah there's some touches for sure

JUST JEALOUS CAUSE WERE YOUNG AND IN LOVE

another note from the show - lacey played 'soco amaretto lime' but changed the lyrics from "you're just jealous cause were young and in love" to "i'm just jealous cause you're young and in love"

the enunciation of the "boy we gave you every opportunity" part is super emo

JUST JEALOUS CAUSE WERE YOUNG AND IN LOVE

another note from the show - lacey played 'soco amaretto lime' but changed the lyrics from "you're just jealous cause were young and in love" to "i'm just jealous cause you're young and in love"

― Mordy, Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:01 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i noticed this from a youtube recently, i like the change. also on a mostly unrelated note he sings "i am paid to make you boys panic while i sing" in "spin light" these days -- i get the feeling he realizes some of his earlier lyrics were kind of, to use a contemporary term, a little problematic

it was just striking to me along w/ the other stuff that it's a much darker more pessimistic gloomy take

yeah no idea what kind of place jesse is in but he's always been outwardly pretty troubled

the old stuff is good for what it is (music for kids) but it's not something i can really imagine listening to all the time anymore

fwiw i understand why you and presumably lacey feel this way but i think deja entendu continues to contain some of their most direct, affecting + memorable work. but i never think that "music for kids" is necessarily a limitation on popular music (i still listen to pet sounds too)

there were signs all over the venue when you entered that said that there would be no crowd surfing at the show and anyone who crowd surfed would get ejected. when the concert started the band played the first few songs behind a gate/fence that spanned the entire length of the stage like they were in jail. i was thinking "oh my god he is so freaked out about the audience he is playing behind a gate now" but it lifted after the first few songs i felt whew

sort of feel like if i were a band of brand new's popularity i'd be performing behind something bulletproof

Jesse Lacey threw his guitar last night. What an icon pic.twitter.com/gqCdo9Y1Ud

— Thiqq Goth GF (@valisneckdeep) October 22, 2017

Lets all go and meet our maker
Won't matter whose side you're on
We're so afraid, I prayed and prayed
When God told me to love the bomb
https://i.imgur.com/fwoNXZm.jpg

so this is looking pretty much like my aoty and unlikely to be dethroned

same

yep

Not there yet but I might have to resign to the fact that come December, this will be true for me as well. Pacing in that direction.

*dreams of Brand New winning the EOY poll*

Will def be a top 5