WU-TANG CLAN — Artist Poll — Voting Thread (deadline Oct. 15)

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Almost done with my ballot, but want to say that I think this is interesting and otm:

The arc of RZA's evolution as a producer is really interesting, esp because the first album seems to come out of left-field and bears next to no resemblance to that dominant sounds on the east coast (Puffy/Biggie) and the west coast (Dre/Snoop/2-Pac) at the time that were clearly leading the way through rap's big crossover pop moment. ... And it's all fascinating but tbh I don't think it actually *sounds* as good as a bunch of stuff that came later as he refined his approach. By the time he gets to the Dirty album, something like "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" really bangs - minimalist as it is there's a depth and widescreen-appeal to the sound, everything is carefully placed and panned in the mix for maximum impact, the haze of the first album and Tical (which is muddy as *fuck*, the whole thing sounds underwater) is still deployed but it's more skillful, less sloppy.

Revisiting the albums in release order has been really interesting in seeing how much the RZA grows as a producer in just a few years, but also how much each of the members develops quickly. Rae is basically yelling throughout the first album, but by Ironman his raps have this great range and each line is just packed with syllables. Meth, too, I don't think he's that all that great on 36 Chambers even with his ample charisma, but by Forever every one of his lines kills me.

intheblanks, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:42 (six years ago) link

I will say that Tical has suffered most on relistening, the production feels notably weaker than the other "first four" releases. I don't mind muddiness generally, but it's just not that interesting and it starts to feel like a slog to me. And I don't think they had figured out that they should pack their solo albums with guest appearances, that a record can still project a singular vision without one rapper providing almost every verse

intheblanks, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link

"not *as* interesting" is what I meant in that second sentence there; it's still a very good record

intheblanks, Sunday, 15 October 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link

just sent my ballot! Hopefully others are also coming through this weekend.

intheblanks, Sunday, 15 October 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

only have 9 ballots so far. may need to extend a week and see if we can do some recruiting?

Spottie, Monday, 16 October 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

I can throw something together I should think, it'll be fairly canon though...

André Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 16 October 2017 06:25 (six years ago) link

sorry life got in the way. a wee extension would be good if poss

calumerio, Monday, 16 October 2017 09:01 (six years ago) link

yeah i think we have to. can a mod change the wording to 'deadline extended to Oct. 22' please?

i think we need a minimum of 15 but would like to get 20+

whos missing? flopson, bradnelson, marcos, Frederik B, forks, billstevejim, rogermexico (there was one that was sent and not sure from which user). Anyone else?

Spottie, Monday, 16 October 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

The mystery one was probably mine.

devvvine, Monday, 16 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

i think i figured yours cos it kinda correlates with your email address?

Spottie, Monday, 16 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

lost track of this will try to get a ballot together

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 04:22 (six years ago) link

thanks for the extension! hmm do I need to listen to The Saga Continues before I make any final decisions...?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

no

Jrue the Damaja (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

did anyone listen to A Better Tomorrow

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

i did at the time but cant remember anything from it

Spottie, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

mystery ballot was probably me

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

sounds right

Spottie, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

da mystery of sic's ballot

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

Spottie just wanted to make sure you got my ballot, sent it about a week ago. Looking forward to this eventual rollout

intheblanks, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

Got it thanks!

Only got one more ballot with the extension. Not really sure how to proceed?

Spottie, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

in my experience you have to bump this thread like every day to remind people to vote in it

otherwise folks just forget

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

how many ballots do you have so far?

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

11 including mine.

xp yeah usually that just happens kinda naturally with the normal back and forth and campaigning etc, hasn't really taken off like that.

Spottie, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

I will get you a ballot tonight if you can find it in yr heart to let it sneak through late. again sorry

calumerio, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

send it whenever, think we gotta try one more extension. Maybe a mod can update the date in the title to "(Deadline extended to Oct 31)" ?

Spottie, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

saving my bacon with the extended extension

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 23 October 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Bump, we need more voters cmon do it.

Spottie, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

putting one together RIGHT NOW

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

me too

cajunsunday, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link

sent!

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

votey vote vote vote

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

almost too many punny poll options, so I suggest we do a backronym

PICK
ONLY
LYRICAL
LINES

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

*poll title options

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

Witty UnPOLLdictable Talent and Natural Game

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

there's so many choices it's true

Spottie, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

I'll POLL Your Asshole Shut and Keep Feedin Ya and Feedin Ya and Feedin Ya

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

that was in my top 3 lol

Spottie, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

votey vote vote vote

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

Got a couple more. Couple more days. One of these days, and it wont be long.

Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

okay okay will get you one on sunday
i am self conscious as my picks are gonna be very garden variety

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

don't matter just do it!

Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

Excited for the roll-out on this, haven't really campaigned for anything because my wu-opinions are fairly orthodox and it's not like an album like OB4CL needs extra repping here. How many ballots have been submitted?

intheblanks, Monday, 30 October 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link

working on it working on it

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 30 October 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

vote you foolz

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 October 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

vote while you still can

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Monday, 30 October 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link

i got 2 more last week and one early this morning. Just a couple more lets get it done people.

Spottie, Monday, 30 October 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

oh dang... no nominations for:
GZA - Publicity
Method Man - What's Happenin' (feat. Busta Rhymes)

might have voted for both but my bad not paying attention sooner

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

did you submit yours yet?

Spottie, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

incoming in 3... 2...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

vote you suckaz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link


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