MOGWAI - Classic or Dud?

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Young Team is great, but patchy. It has the much inferior version of Xmas Steps. HSFHP works better as an album, even if it doesn't have the hits. I would also say 10 Rapid is probably the best overall.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 October 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

I mean CODY obviously

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 October 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

Young Team has the inferior version of Summer

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 October 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

‘Rock Action’ remains my favourite.

michaellambert, Friday, 13 October 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

I agree they've been dull since Rock Action. Still a great live band, like.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 13 October 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

I loved their soundtrack work for “Les Revenants”, so there’s that.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 13 October 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

Hardcore Will Never Die is great, and seconded for Les Revenants (although it's very soundtracky). Quite like Rave Tapes, but Beast / Hawk etc are lifeless, and the new one is a non-event.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 13 October 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

Hawk gets off to a wonderful start but then loses itself in noodling later on. Mr Beast is kind of all rubbish

imago, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

*beast means paedophile or sexual offender in the west of scotland

blimey.
weird album title choice then.
to be honest, i don't think i have ever listened to it all way through before boredom sets in and i change it for something different.

― mark e, Friday, October 13, 2017 10:10 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to clarify this: although beast is used to mean that and the members of mogwai will know that, i don't think that use of the word is the intent of the name of the album

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 October 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

Their most popular song on Spotify, by a factor of 2, is Kids Will Be Skeletons - absolutely one of their best songs, but I wonder why it's so disproportionately popular? Was it in Twilight or something

imago, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Strange

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 October 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

right gotcha. what about take me somewhere nice', that's second by miles...

imago, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Spotify isn't showing the popular songs in order of plays! Something called "Hungry Face" is in 8th place with 11 million plays.

Anyway, RA > CODY > 10 Rapid, then God Mr. Beast can have the rest.

Klingon T'Kuvma Why Don't You Love Mah? (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

right gotcha. what about take me somewhere nice', that's second by miles...

― imago, Friday, October 13, 2017 2:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

people love stuart's dulcet tones?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 October 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

maybe the first Mogwai you hear is your favorite? that would be CODY for me.

Karl Malone, Friday, 13 October 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Last June by chance I went out with Barry Burns until 4am, across the road from the lab where I first heard “Ex-Cowboy” about 20 years earlier. This was in Hobart, mind, which made it all pretty surreal.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 13 October 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

They've always had a strong line in boring, e.g. you don't know jesus in rock action is pretty zzzz. But there's usually a non boring highlight on their albums, e.g. the sun smells too loud on the hawk is howling. The new one though is indeed snores from start to end.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 10:07 (six years ago) link

those are pretty unusual choices for boring track and highlight imo! takes all sorts i guess

imago, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 10:09 (six years ago) link

i learned that a long time ago yet it remains surprising.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

The Sun Smells Too Loud was my takeaway from that album, as it happens. The rest dull as fuck.

Boring /= repetitive. Especially with this band. Boring = predictable, which is generally what they are on their more dynamic stuff.

The Nonkeen records from last year scratched the itch for me that Mogwai never have been able to.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 10:51 (six years ago) link

you don't know jesus in rock action is pretty zzzz

waht this is like their best song! (After 2 Rights and Helicon 1.)

(I am a robot.) (Leee), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

idk it was the one from rock action playing when i glanced at the screen thinking 'hurry up, when's 2 rights coming on?'

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

dude, that whole album is like 38 minutes long lol

imago, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

there was a wee season or two after it came out that the sun smells too loud was always played at half time at celtic home games

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

was good pie-line muzak

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

I seem to have said pretty much the same thing twice above, but almost everything pre-CODY = classic, everything after that = dud. In particular 10 Rapid is their best album by a mile.

toby, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

All the score in 'KIN' is created by one of our favorite bands in the world, Mogwai. Dream collaboration. You wait to you hear this album world. https://t.co/oaZlRCFkhE

— Jonathan & Josh Baker (@RedBikeBlueBike) April 27, 2018

the gwai have done another soundtrack

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luM6oeCM7Yw
how does this have 70,000,000 views??

salt sugar fat, that's where it's at (rip van wanko), Sunday, 20 May 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link

the comment section is basically an entire forum on depression and suicide ideation. not sure how this happened but there is your explanation. (reading further it seems 9gag has something to do with it, and that there's as much trolling as sincere outpouring)

imago, Sunday, 20 May 2018 08:25 (five years ago) link

i mean i'm watching 13 Reasons Why S2 at the moment - trying to recall whether this song featured in S1. I think it might have?

imago, Sunday, 20 May 2018 08:27 (five years ago) link

Yeah it does have a unique comments section (and kinda cool I'm), but i didn't consider that the comments section of any one indie some might take on a life of its own like it apparently has

salt sugar fat, that's where it's at (rip van wanko), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

I'm=imo

salt sugar fat, that's where it's at (rip van wanko), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

some=song omg fuck posting on a phone

salt sugar fat, that's where it's at (rip van wanko), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

CODY released 20 years ago the day

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

"Helps Both Ways" came on shuffle the other day and it brought me back to my fair youth!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 March 2019 04:18 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Reckon they’re all probably into eurorack now.

fields of salmon, Monday, 15 April 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Rather like the new one.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

Back in September 1999, I had the chance to see GYBE and Mogwai at two separate shows the same week. Mogwai had this little thing called 'dynamics,' which among other things meant, say, not playing the same damn song over and over again and again, including the encores. Now guess how quickly I feel asleep at the GYBE show -- standing ten feet from the stage, I should note. Labradford blew them off the stage while playing at one/one-hundreth of the volume level.

ROFL

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:51 (three years ago) link

All true!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link

Fwiw I saw both of those shows in I think the same week of Sept. 99 as well (presumably on the opposite coast, at Maxwell's in Hoboken) and that is a hilariously immoderate reaction. The wording, the indignation... It's all very funny

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

I think "Mogwai had this little thing called 'dynamics'" and "now guess how quickly i fell asleep" were my favorite parts

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link

'blown off the stage by labradford' is the saddest of all epithets

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

Out of the two shows I would say Ganger played the weakest set, but it's true that Labradford were better than GY!BE

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

I think that was the same week as the Matador 10th anniversary show at Irving Plaza where some guy yelled "DON'T DO IT!!" over the silence just as Stuart Braithwaite was about to kick the distortion on for the loud part of 'Like Herod' and *the entire place* including Stu erupted in laughter.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:08 (three years ago) link

single sounds like Snow Patrol

PaulTMA, Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

lol xp

imago, Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

Dying at “DON’T DO IT!”

circa1916, Sunday, 21 February 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link

awesome

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

Re: one/one-hundredth of the volume level tho. Idk, I distinctly remember being surprised and disappointed that GYBE were soooo quiet. Only time i've seen them live.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link

At the Matador 10th show Mogwai's set was followed by the Cornelius Group who I wouldn't say blew them off the stage exactly but it certainly would have been a little sad if Mogwai had followed them instead.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 21 February 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link


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