explain going to a baseball game to someone from the UK

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you just replace the pitcher with the position player and vice-versa. so when the pitcher's spot comes up, the position player is actually there.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I get that but it's not a satisfying answer for me, i guess. is it just as simple as calling a P a 2B and a 2B a P? i.e. a semantic manuver?

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i think maybe try taking the positions out of it? you are free to substitute any guy for any other guy, and because it's the nl, you are free to let anyone play any position. so.......

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

btw i'm an al fan too just trying to work through this for both of our benefits

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

>i think maybe try taking the positions out of it?

I don't think that's my issue. i can't figure out where in the timeline of events that lead to the players ending up in the advantageous BO slots.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

ACCEPTED EVENT: event 1) remove pitcher and position player from the game;

ACCEPTED EVENT: event 2) replace pitcher and position player

event 3 ????????

ACCEPTED OUTCOME: event 4) batting order results in position player batting in pitcher's spot and visa versa.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I took my Afrogermanic neighbor to a game last year and it was probably the hardest (explaining stuff) I had to think since my SAT.

Tito Linndrum (Andy K), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

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Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

like, everything makes sense independent of the whole

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I get that but it's not a satisfying answer for me, i guess. is it just as simple as calling a P a 2B and a 2B a P? i.e. a semantic manuver?

what's semantic about it? aren't the replacements in the lineup? (i.e. couldn't any player conceivably play any position?)

"the whale saw her" (gabbneb), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the two substitutions don't technically happen simultaneously. so you can first take out the pitcher and put the position player in his spot, and then take out the other position player and put in the pitcher. it may happen at the same time on the lineup card, but that doesn't matter until either a) the NEW pitcher's spot comes up because the inning continues or b) the inning ends and someone needs to pitch the next inning.

all that's relevant initially is that you are batting a position player for a pitcher. what the double switch is really doing is allowing him to stay in the game after his AB.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

its mostly an NL thing.

+ if it happens in the upper half of the lineup (in a 9 inning game) it's usually due to injury or an older player needing rest (often during a blowout).

+ if it happens in the bottom half of the lineup it's usually to take advantage of poor batter or to insert a defensive replacement.

so say your light hitting SS (say, 2009 jose reyes off the roids lol) is batting 8th and made the last offensive out and your pitcher has tossed 7 innings and is due up in the next inning. after the batter makes the out, the manager would indicate a double switch taking reyes out of the 8th spot and inserting a pitcher in that spot instead (then up 9th in the current batter order = less chance of getting an at bat by end of game). then in the 9th spot, you'd insert the switch, usually the next best offensive player and either move him in at SS or shuffle the defense around to accomodate him.

does this make sense? cuz i could go on but i'm not sure how much sense this is making...

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

yah it makes total sense - you're rejigging the line-up to put as much distance btw your pitcher and having to bat as possible

(Palm) springs sprungs (Lamp), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

the two substitutions don't technically happen simultaneously. so you can first take out the pitcher and put the position player in his spot, and then take out the other position player and put in the pitcher. it may happen at the same time on the lineup card, but that doesn't matter until either a) the NEW pitcher's spot comes up because the inning continues or b) the inning ends and someone needs to pitch the next inning.

^^^^ this is basically what I was looking for

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

so, yes, it is all effectively instantaneous, but that's the order I was looking for.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

order of operations cf. maths.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

https://i.redd.it/1zu5qfagdlh71.jpg

incredible comeback as the herts falcons improved to 1-23 on the season. they've been outscored 351-98

mookieproof, Monday, 16 August 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

Can we have that in English please?

Soundtracked by an ecojazz mixtape (Tom D.), Monday, 16 August 2021 07:40 (two years ago) link

lmaooo

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 07:51 (two years ago) link

i know some of those guys

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 August 2021 07:51 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

A Dead Armed Pitcher is Not Yet a Man


The path of a pitched baseball
can be curv or sl
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narrow or a
l
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cutt n
ing or k u arc's
ckl the f
ing bends a
the wind l
l
sli
ding or drop
p
ing
like a sick stomach
having just reached the top
of a rollercoaster ride that screams like a rocket
until the bottom falls out of it and comes to the most sudden
stop

Instead of throwing the ball like any of that
I throw it right down the middle
as hard as I can
My ass is handed to me in front of an audience

I grunt when I throw because they asked me to
because if I don’t they’ll ask why I didn’t
because they thought it would add a couple miles per hour
to my cartoonishly slow and extremely hittable deliveries
The other kid grunts back as he slaps a loud smack
The crowd roars because our team is away and they are safe at home
We’re 13 years old, I sucked
I got roughed up on the usual
but our team had no reliable bullpen
so they left me in to soak up the remaining innings
until the 10-run rule arrived, the rule of mercy

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

x-posting here because it's for baseball nerds

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 January 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

and also to help explain baseball to only people in the UK

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 January 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link


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