Music Criticism in Video Form

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i thought it was those who complain about sjw's online all day who scream 'censorship!' at the slightest pushback

dyl, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

WHO'S THE REAL SNOWFLAKE???

maura, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

Some more on that Rock/Tyrese thing

https://www.avclub.com/boy-tyrese-is-really-struggling-to-get-this-feud-wit-1819376604

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

We live in a weird world where @vincestaples and @RonnieRadke openly beef on Twitter. O_____o

— thee anthony fantano (@theneedledrop) October 15, 2017



Ain’t you get caught being alt right this ain’t a good day to interact with me broseph I’m giving out the full clip. https://t.co/9aHIUHpTMG

— Vince Staples (@vincestaples) October 15, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/qaBEdbexiL

— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) October 15, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

god bless Vince Staples

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

wow all the defenders crowding the replies. the internet is great

maura, Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

@ScottAdamsSays brings up the topic of #SJW's in Dilbert! :Dhttps://t.co/L9cRW86lZn pic.twitter.com/ruIfcJhRxu
— Ford Freestar (@I_AM_IRON_VAN) June 15, 2016

I don't remember ever being asked to identify with the boss character when I used to read the strip with regularity (like 20 years ago). it's like one day Adams took this character he designed to be an antagonistic moron and decided "hey, he's right"

Vinnie, Sunday, 15 October 2017 08:53 (six years ago) link

America did that too

Evan, Sunday, 15 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

"Understanding Ween"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaoQRn4XyDI

i dunno why i find this fascinating. feels like a different experience for the outre-music-neophyte to randomly encounter a whole comprehensive rundown of a fairly deep band's career with all the refs and in-jokes detailed instead of randomly encountering, say, a single song or a review of an album as an introduction. ween's kind of become a meme band i guess so ppl might hear 'ocean man' and then come find a vid like this. 70k views in a cpl weeks is pretty good.

sleepingbag, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link

wow that channel is more like 'understanding men'

maura, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link

hmm yeah actually let's talk about men vs women some more. i think men are better musicians and music critics. thoughts?

sleepingbag, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

hey man i'm just posting about their somewhat alienating subject matter. feel free to mute me :)

maura, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

lol i would never. but seriously whatever who cares i lost interest already. dudes lol.

sleepingbag, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:41 (six years ago) link

man finally we found some nerdy dude in the internet willing to explain how "weird" ween is ad nauseum

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link

It's unique, and has never been attempted, so hark! Hosannas!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

Honestly I'm shocked the video isn't titled Ween: Explained. Youtube clickbait has ruined my trust. Is this like that stuff p4k does these days? You know ..."content"?

Evan, Thursday, 1 March 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

am i too online to wonder if charles harder is somehow involved

goole, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link

This fucking prick again.

Thank you to everyone who supported me and stood up for me. I learned who really cares about me, and won't forget that.

— 15-year-old Atheist (@theneedledrop) March 21, 2018

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link

one for the history books

ogmor, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

"The claims were settled"

well that's fucking ambiguous

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 22 March 2018 06:00 (six years ago) link

Dude's awesome.

― ksh, Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:02 AM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flopson, Thursday, 22 March 2018 06:21 (six years ago) link

wtf

what was even objectionable about the article to the extent that it should be removed? iirc it did not even claim anything that wasn't veritably true

dyl, Thursday, 22 March 2018 13:31 (six years ago) link

it hurt his feelings

Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link

if fantano didn't exist, RYM would immediately be about 15% better

imago, Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link

not even really his fault

imago, Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link

I blame his parents

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

15% better than horrible is still horrible on my calculator

Cambridge Metallica (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

the fact that The Fader lost a battle of ethics to this guy will be hilarious for a long, long time

https://youtu.be/LkqsexgTXYg?t=97

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Apparently Fantano is touring? Can you imagine the crowd paying to see him speak? wtf

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

I saw that yesterday and wondered what the hell he does up there. Anyone ever seen a public appearance?

How much $ does this dude make a year, do we think?

alpine static, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

admittedly I've never seen a live album review before

frogbs, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

pretty much any moderately successful podcast goes on tour now... this rly isn't much different

J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

That's fair. I have a hard time imagining him just up on stage alone talking for any length of time and people enjoying it. like, even if they likehis whole thing.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

That's gonna be a dude heavy audience.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

I want to go to one lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

i went to one in boston. it’s structured like a show - bands play sets and he gives talks in the middle

maura, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link

oh that's better. I'm glad it's not just him one man showing.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link

ian sweet played! they’re so good

maura, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

Oh nice, I just discovered them (from the footer of an email organizing an interview with another band I like which is the weirdest way I've discovered a new band).

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/LkqsexgTXYg?t=97

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

Jesus.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

still better than the new Eminem record

frogbs, Friday, 14 December 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

that is one of the bleakest things I've ever seen

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 14 December 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Copied across from this thread - Most Harmful Strand of Contemporary Music Criticism

Damn, I would have it included had I known it was a thing (I don't listen to podcasts).

Come to think of it, there should also be a 'Fantano' option.

― pomenitul, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i was gonna say that what i described might not be considered "criticism," but... fantano's a "critic" so i think it should count

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I don't remember what Fantano's approach is... how is it distinct?

― Evan, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

but i also may be overdoing it in even suggesting it's a "thing," i've only encountered it in one place, i hate it regardless!!!!! xp

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

no one remembers what fantano's approach is

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Well then why do we insist on memeing about how terrible he is? Not setting up to defend him. I haven't watched his reviews so I'm curious.

― Evan, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:40 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

oh i thought you were familiar with him and yet his approach to reviewing is so unremarkable it just vaporized completely from your mind

anyway he just kinda reacts to a record without saying anything interesting about it

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

fantano's approach is to try to get me to hate-click his forever-yt-recommended videos by growing the most hideous moustache he can manage

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lmao

― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, January 20, 2020 4:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Here's a typically dismal sample:

Was there really no competition when he first started out?

― pomenitul, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Fwiw it probably helps that he performatively embodies what most people conjure up in their minds when they think of a 'music nerd'. Still, I'm baffled by his overwhelming success – has anyone else even come close to the sheer of amount of views he's racked up over the years?

― pomenitul, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

See yeah I know a bit about who he is and who his audience is, but I've tried very hard to not click his videos even out of curiosity because at the very least I really don't want him popping up in recommended (as much), so his "style" of reviewing as would be classified by this poll is a mystery to me.

― Evan, Monday, January 20, 2020 4:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I think his success has a lot to do with the fact that youtube and his target audience do go well together. And he is probably good at doing all the youtuber things that one must do to stand out (entertaining editing, length, SEO techniques for creation of thumbnail, titles, etc.).

― Evan, Monday, January 20, 2020 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I actually watched a couple of his reviews. His style is to spread widely and not go into depth, make some jokes, say which tracks he likes / doesn't like. Under the memelord banter it's a very conservative old-fashioned approach really, as much as he calls himself a "music nerd" it's designed to be as easy to dip into as possible, so I can see why people watch his videos as much as I hate them. His taste in music is suspicious, I remember him slating Lil Peep while he was alive, then after the critical tide turned with his death he decided he decided he liked him after all, with no acknowledgement that he'd changed his view.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, January 20, 2020 5:04 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

are we gonna skip over his alt right bullshit

― Οὖτις, Monday, January 20, 2020 5:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

If we want to get into that there might be a better thread. I'm just talking about his music reviews and how they might relate to the poll options.

― Evan, Monday, January 20, 2020 5:12 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

xp yeah he has never apologised for that horrible "questions for sjws" video, but we do have a thread to discuss that. I do like to share it with people on twitter who like him and don't realise.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, January 20, 2020 5:16 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Didn't his defence essentially consist of 'it's just a prank bro'?

― pomenitul, Monday, January 20, 2020 5:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Fwiw it probably helps that he performatively embodies what most people conjure up in their minds when they think of a 'music nerd'. Still, I'm baffled by his overwhelming success – has anyone else even come close to the sheer of amount of views he's racked up over the years?

― pomenitul

he got famous the way most people get famous - impressing one or two powerful people, who then decided it would be a good idea to promote him. this is how youtube and social media work.

― revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Monday, January 20, 2020 7:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I don't really like Fantano either but I don't see how what he's doing is harmful. He reminds me of those old WRC guys like George Starostin or John McFerrin except he's reading his reviews instead of typing them. I know he's got a bad history pandering to the 4chan/reddit types who made him famous but he just seems more annoying than bad

― frogbs, Monday, January 20, 2020 11:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

Here's a random list of YT music critics I've never heard of aside from the ubiquitous no. 1:

https://www.thetoptens.com/youtube-music-critics/

Is anyone familiar with the others?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

I know Spectrum Pulse because he also writes up his reviews on RYM. He's a good reviewer I think - his written review of Foxing's last album was a superb appraisal that made me return to it afresh

opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link


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