Flashes in the pan by year, 1984-2009

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Some of the Mercury Prize winners here were barely a flash, did Talvin Singh even sell that many records?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:30 (six years ago) link

Talvin Singh's name still seems to get brought up now and again in my circle for some reason. Is he still releasing music?

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link

Yeah, seemed unfair to say Talvin Singh because that felt like the Mercury judges really striking out on their own. Maybe ditto a bit with Roni Size.

Alba, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:50 (six years ago) link

it seems like a disproportionate amount of the UK names that come up are BME artists

This has occurred to me too, but it seems like it's a particular kind of BME artist that the record industry gets behind in these flashes, often ones that don't get much traction with BME audiences.

Alba, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

Talvin Singh seems like one of those people who stays busy with any number of projects, one or two of which occasionally intersect with the zeitgeist. Less of a flash in the pan than a slow bake.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

(crap analogy time)

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

In any case I apologise re/to Talvin and will seriously consider listening to his second album 'Ha' someday.

nashwan, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

Feel like, to count, you need one mega-selling album that was never really followed up.

Not sure if it there has to be a mega-selling album: even a clutch of top 20 singles would work for me. Tanita Tikaram is just the kind of thing in the pre-Britpop era. That kind of respectable artist who weren't cool in the NME's eyes, were probably available in the Britannia Music Club, might be one of the 12 CDs (or cassettes) the ILM proverbial 12 CD-owning person had, you know.

Can't get my head around Tanita Tikaram being only four years older than me.

Alba, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:05 (six years ago) link

I wouldn't say Apache Indian counts at all – he was more of a one-hit wonder

Yeah, you're right. Was swayed by him getting a Brits nomination for Best British Male.

Alba, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

Someone on Facebook suggested McAlmont and Butler for 1995.

Alba, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

"Some of the Mercury Prize winners here were barely a flash,"

maybe if Gaz Coombes had won it in '15 he wouldn't gone on to have a platinum selling hit album and become the global superstar he is now. Take note alt-J!

calzino, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

Tanita T was in the year above me in my sixth form college; I wish I had some scadalous anecdotes to share but I got nothing

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link

iirc The Corrs still play arenas, they're prob more one for the thread that's words to the effect of 'you dgaf about them but they're actually as big as their heyday if not bigger'

thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

I guess a lot of them still play to big crowds but on the basis of one album? It's not as if successive Corrs albums have gone top 10 and hung around all year is it?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

yeah it is actually

ufo, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

four of their albums have gone top two in the UK apparently

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

The follow-up to Talk on Corners had 'Breathless' on it - a big hit!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

1984 - Nik Kershaw
1985 - King

Absolutely yes to both of these. Although Kershaw became more of a back-room songwriter (he wrote 'The One and Only' for Chesney Hawkes) and we all know that Paul King became a VJ on MTV Europe...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

Corrs have a new single out, their sounds hasn't evolved much in 20 years.

1993 has a trio of Brit soul divas; Des'ree, Dina Caroll and Shara Nelson. Most sad that Shara Nelson never capitalised on the success of Massive Attack.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

1991 - Beverley Craven

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

1998 Cornershop, maybe?

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Also 1991 - Shakespears Sister

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

Des'ree had a hit at the end of the nineties too with 'Life'. Think that album was quite big as well?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

1994 - Stiltskin
1996 - Babylon Zoo

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

Also 1994/1995 - The Outhere Brothers

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

Shakespeare's Sister also had a bit of success in the 80s with 'You're History'

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

1988 - Inner City

1989 - Bonnie Raitt

1992 - Arrested Development, Helmet

1995 - Drugstore (didn't sell many records but the inkies were all over them for months on end)

jon123, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

Bonnie Raitt not even close to being a flash in the pan (at least in the US). All but one of the twelve albums she's released since 1977 landed in the top 40, and three went multi-platinum, along with numerous charting singles. In the UK she had a string of four albums that sold well. She's been popular with critics since her first album in 1971.

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

1998 - David Gray?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

1998 - Lauryn Hill solo

Siegbran, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

1998 - David Gray?

― MarkoP, Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:27 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh god... yes, absolutely!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

1988 - Edie Brickell (unless you're Paul Simon)

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

franz ferdinand

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

You could basically put almost every UK indie band who released their debut album from 2004-2008 in this thread, tbh.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

1998 - Air

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

2002 - Damien Rice

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

1988 - Edie Brickell (unless you're Paul Simon)

― Lee626, Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:54 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They had a couple of hits between 'em in 2014 iirc.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

1987 - Curiosity Killed the Cat

new noise, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

2016 - The 1975 (pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease)

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

1988 - Tracy Chapman
1998 - Asian Dub Foundation

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

1994 - Stiltskin
1996 - Babylon Zoo

one-hit wonders but never "big"

new noise, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

i was gonna say damien rice but i guess he had two more albums that did okay? huge uk-usa discrepancies here; let's hear what the mongrels have to say

mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

1996 - Los Del Rio (best selling single ever?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

1984 - Thompson Twins

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link

Tracy Chapman had a #3 hit in 1995.

President Keyes, Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

I was surprised to find out it only went to #95 the UK. It won the Grammy for Best Rock Song and was nominated for Best Song and Best Record.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

2000 - Sonique

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link

1990 - Alannah Myles

To be fair, she probably is considered a national treasure in Canada.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 October 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link

G'night and good luck next year

calstars, Thursday, 12 October 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

1998 - B*Witched

I can't claim they got respect from the critics but them achieving four number one singles within 10 months to having it all be over less than a year later makes them one of the ultimate flash in the pan cases.

kitchen person, Thursday, 12 October 2017 03:37 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles

I think I actually did a poll of these at some point too...

POLL: The 11 best selling singles ever

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 12 October 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link

re list of best selling singles - what a weird collection!

skip, Thursday, 12 October 2017 06:03 (six years ago) link

1990 : EMF - Unbelievable.

surely !?

mark e, Thursday, 12 October 2017 08:50 (six years ago) link

1998 - Air

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:18 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL WUT

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 12 October 2017 09:34 (six years ago) link

The original post is pretty obviously about *album* artists not one-hit-wonders, so I don't like Los Del Rio really counts here. Then again if Asian Dub Foundation (two albums that reached #20) are being mentioned then I'm not sure what's even being discussed any more.

I was completely wrong about the Corrs though, I guess the all-consuming hugeness of Talk On Corners wiped everything else from my memory.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 October 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

Yeah, in my head it's definitely about the act's status in that year, rather than being defined specifically by an album, but one-hit-single wonders are probably not fodder for this.

I think it's a whiff of respectability that links them: Brit and Mercury approval is a big indicator, the sense that this is an important new force in the music industry. Not sure EMF really had that.

Alba, Thursday, 12 October 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

point taken re albums vs singles.
the schubert dip' album was a hit, but didn't really dominate 1991 when it was released.

mark e, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

1997 - Natalie Imbruglia

MaresNest, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:05 (six years ago) link

Speaking of EMF - 1990: Jesus Jones (certainly in the UK, I recall much music press chin-stroking about their sampling and other modern wonders)

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

Stereo MCs and The Shamen maybe?

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

XP - I guess then The Wonder Stuff and PWEI too?

MaresNest, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link

I wouldn't count PWEI or the Wonderstuff. They were just popular bands who were of their time. They had pretty big followings and released multiple albums and singles over a few years.

It's definitely about that thing where an act is all over the place, all over TV, talked about in ecstatic and revered tones, a huge amount of marketing and possibly a big hit single or album, but forgotten about within months with hardly a glimmer of a comeback.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

in the US how about Hootie & The Blowfish?

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

Their flash sustained itself for four years at least, perhaps longer depending on who you ask.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

Would the KLF had been mentioned already were it not for their late 80s years of relative obscurity? That would rule out several other 90s acts itt tho. Also I guess people tend to think of acts that had some sort of brief mainstream acclaim without being ILM-friendly.

nashwan, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

didn't dwindle away so much as forcibly remove themselves from the picture

thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link

KLF don't count as their legacy never really went away

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

I don't think these one-three hit wonders really hit the bill. Was EMF really promoted as a "career" band, or taken seriously by critics? Some of these are puzzling, like Corinne Bailey Rae, who made great follow up records but was kind of forgotten by the industry, if not by all critics.

President Keyes, Thursday, 12 October 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

Lisa Stansfield?

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 13 October 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

I was thinking her, maybe, but her songs still get played all the time on commercial radio where I'm from.
Tracy Chapman? Sinead O'Connor?

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 13 October 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

I guess this thread throws into question exactly how long the popularity of an act should last. Some acts are just so right for their time and place that they naturally enjoy a short shelf life. Most continue to release a few more albums but they never sell as well as their debut and they never get the press they had at the start

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 13 October 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Darius Rucker has a big career in country
I bet most of these "flashes in the pan" can still draw theater crowds that would be the envy of whatever indie rock bands are Pitchfork darlings these days

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 October 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link

1984 - Thompson Twins

Their hit-making run started in 1983 in the UK and continued through 1985. They were still big enough in '85 to perform on the US Live Aid stage.

Vast Halo, Saturday, 14 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

Some of these are puzzling, like Corinne Bailey Rae, who made great follow up records

Her husband died a while after the release of her debut, and her career seemed to lose all its momentum while she took time out.

Vast Halo, Saturday, 14 October 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

I had no idea. Definitely strike her from the list.

Alba, Saturday, 14 October 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link


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