Songs where the real hook is in the verse and the chorus is unmemorable by comparison

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I LOVE THE NIGHT LIFE BABY

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:33 (six years ago) link

Right Said Fred "I'm Too Sexy"

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link

^ Great example

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link

No it isn't!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

“Live Forever”

Eazy, Monday, 9 October 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

QUESTIONABLE AT BEST

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link

Ok guys I think I finally got one:

Spice Girls - Wannabe

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link

The whole song is catchy but everyone knows the opening verse. Right?

I dare you make a test right now with the person next to you tell them to sing it and they’ll all sing the verse instead of the chorus.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link

that bit is almost like a secondary chorus though

it's repeated a number of times throughout the song

Number None, Monday, 9 October 2017 03:55 (six years ago) link

Goddamit I can’t get a single one

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link

tom tom club - genius of love

not that the chorus is unmemorable as much as the verses rule

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 9 October 2017 04:12 (six years ago) link

I think some of us are coming at the premise of this thread in different ways. Are we talking about subjectively more memorable or what part the song is more well known for in the culture at large? Because there's no way that catwalk shit from "I'm Too Sexy" is more memorable or well known than the verses. Same goes for "Wannabe" - I'd argue both the verses & choruses are equally memorable.

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

Because there's no way that catwalk shit from "I'm Too Sexy" is more memorable or well known than the verses.

They're equally well known.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 05:11 (six years ago) link

im with flappy bird here, most people born since 1990 have probably never even heard the chorus to that song

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link

I’m evidently having trouble with it too... seems like in really popular songs everything is memorable and some of them are actually two chorus with no verses. I think an essier thread for me would be songs where you like the verse but hate the chorus.

Wonderwall for me, but again that opening verse is probably a second chorus as it’s repeated later in the song. I like the verse (chorus2 whatever) but hate the main chorus.

The Beatles (specially McCartney songs) have this effect with me too... i usually love all their verses but they tend to have terrible saccharine main choruses that ruin the song for me (Hey Jude, Let It Be, Across the Universe to name a few... lovely verses (or second choruses if you prefer) but can’t stand the chorus).

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 05:51 (six years ago) link

Another one where I think the verses are lovely but hate the stupid cheery mood of the chorus:

Paul Simon - 50 ways to leave your lover

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

Almost every Stone Temple Pilots famous songs do this to me too. Love the verses but feel like skipping the chorus... come to think of it almost every grunge related band has this love verse/hate chorus effect on me. Verses in grunge tend to be very vulnerable and melancholic but they usually go to shit once they get turned into angsty bombastic rage in the chorus.

Some people love it, I usually don’t

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 05:57 (six years ago) link

childish gambino - redbone

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 October 2017 06:01 (six years ago) link

Oh another band where I usually love their verses but jate their main chorus:

The Police

They usually lock in these kickass grooves in the verses but they turn all awkward and pop-driven in the chorus.

See I’m quicker in thinking examples of bands that have choruses I hate with verses I love.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 9 October 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link

xxxxxpost:

No, they're equally well known. I seem to remember, for one, an episode of Family Guy referencing the chorus as part of the dialogue in one episode - none of the verses.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

Like I said previously, I think Scritti's "Absolute" has the least memorable chorus most people will have to go play it and go "Oh, there it is.."

Mark G, Monday, 9 October 2017 06:41 (six years ago) link

"Friday I'm in Love" - The Cure

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

lol

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

yeah it does seem there are a number of ways to come at this thread. For instance, there are a ton of rap songs with memorable verses/lines and choruses that are just a title being repeated or a sample being scratched. Or a song like Springsteen's "Rosalita" where the chorus is catchy enough, but whose really memorable part is the verse about the record company giving him a big advance.

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link

No, they're equally well known. I seem to remember, for one, an episode of Family Guy referencing the chorus as part of the dialogue in one episode - none of the verses.

and there's never ever been a time that somebody referenced the verses of I'm Too Sexy without referencing the chorus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EA8MhCBTp4

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

that's one of a million examples

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

"Allentown"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

'I'm Too Sexy' and 'Absolute' are both working off the title being the first word of verses rather than the chorus - there's a probably a whole 'nother thread for that but suddenly interested in much older examples.

nashwan, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

Yeah I guess there's a subset of this thread with songs where the song title and hook are the first word or line of the song.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

The Police

They usually lock in these kickass grooves in the verses but they turn all awkward and pop-driven in the chorus.

'Invisible Sun' very much fits the bill.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

some Pumpkins songs off the top of my head: Cherub Rock, Zero, Today, Pennies, Tonight Tonight, Galapagos, The Everlasting Gaze, Crush, Tristessa, I of the Mourning...

I agree with a lot of these but definitely not Cherub Rock. The "Who wants honey?" choruses and "Let me out" bridges are the best parts of the song!

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

the lovely but obscure "Can You Heart Me Now" by Emmylou Harris. Chorus is just mortar to the verses' bricks

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

Hear not Heart. The song is not about Twitter I promise

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Every other part of 'Hey Ya' is a bigger hook than the chorus.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Also I'm pretty sure that if you asked a sample of people to sing 'Irreplaceable' then more people would default to the "to the left, to the left" bit than the actual chorus.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" and "After the Gold Rush" come to mind.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

/some Pumpkins songs off the top of my head: Cherub Rock, Zero, Today, Pennies, Tonight Tonight, Galapagos, The Everlasting Gaze, Crush, Tristessa, I of the Mourning.../

I agree with a lot of these but definitely not Cherub Rock. The "Who wants honey?" choruses and "Let me out" bridges are the best parts of the song!


Question isn’t which part is better, it’s which part is more memorable or well known. That octave chord verse riff is more well known than the choruses.

flappy bird, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

I legit can barely remember the chorus to the Breeders' "Cannonball" but I think most people remember that bouncing ball bass line in the verses.

President Keyes, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

good one. Hey Ya as well.

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

David Bowie - Let's Dance

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

'Invisible Sun' very much fits the bill.

"Can't Stand Losing You" is the one I thought about first. What kind of chorus is that anyway.

frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

Let's Dance is the best answer yet.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Uptown Girl as well.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

Let's Dance is the best answer yet.

― Matt DC, Monday, October 9, 2017 11:05 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I literally couldn't remember if this song even had a chorus and had to look it up.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

Beatles - If I Needed Someone (seeing the "Had you come some other day" part as the chorus)

Valentijn, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

The Who - I Can See For Miles

^ both of these have awesome verses that really build in tension followed by disappointingly weedy choruses

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, October 7, 2017 6:46 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always thought the chorus of "I Can See For Miles" was brilliantly soaring -- surely more memorable than the verses (which indeed build tension like crazy).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

I like the verses to Pour Some Sugar on Me, kinda hate the chorus

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

ah yes, what a hookless, forgotten chorus

Doctor Casino, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

read the original post. the criteria is merely verse > chorus

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

a lot of grateful dead does this for me, they'll get a nice choogle going (bertha) or groove (eyes of the world) and then have a really lame chorus like they put it in because songs need to have choruses

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link


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