The Cure's Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me Poll

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I think it's an odd choice for a second single, especially when "Just Like Heaven" is an option. But I think it would've made sense as the 4th single after "Hot Hot Hot!!!".

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

This is the first Cure album that I couldn't just enjoy start to finish. There are a couple filler tracks imo, and "Catch" is just insipid.

― rip van wanko, Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I mostly agree... I can listen to everything from Three Imaginary Boys up until The Head on the Door without really wanting to skip anything, even the tracks I'm less keen on. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me probably would have worked better condensed down to a single LP.

'Catch' is... alright, I suppose. One of the lesser/less essential '80s tracks, and a momentum killer on the record, too... I find myself often skipping it to get to the excellent 'Torture'

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link

That 'Torture' got zero votes and 'Catch' got five is just stupid.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

just listened to Catch and it really hit me. It's been a while.

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link

I love "Catch" and "Torture". KMKMKM is my favorite Cure album. I love that it's long, I wish they'd found a way to include "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" too.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

Torture, Hey You and Fight are the only bum notes on this album. The length, the sprawl, the scope are key to the album. HOTD sounds like a set of tinny demos in comparison

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link

The Head on the Door is one of the absolute best records The Cure ever made, so I couldn't possibly agree.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

To each their own. I’d rank it at the bottom of their pre-92 imperial phase

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Did you mean Chain of Flowers and Breathe? I thought A Japanese Dream was pre-87

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

HOTD is the best Cure album though.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

Eh.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

"A Japanese Dream" was the B-Side to "Why Can't I Be You". (x-post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIBmz_i8_A

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, that is good. I was thinking of The Upstairs Room.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

I can hear the cockatoo wings.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

Nice capsule; hard disagree on Shiver and Shake but otherwise on board. I remember waiting and waiting for this to come out, it was too much to digest.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

Just Like Heaven may be the best song ever written.

(NB: only a writer would write the line, “Daylight licked me into shape”)

The concept dates back to antiquity, people used to think bears were born as formless masses and the parents literally licked them into shape.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

Shoulda been a single. THIS mix!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWHXQU23V4o

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

The concept dates back to antiquity, people used to think bears were born as formless masses and the parents literally licked them into shape.

― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel)

Sure! I just meant the verb.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

that's the verb you use for that idiom, to lick something into shape... I must be missing something

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

No, I am. I didn't know this idiom existed, much less to be used in a pop song. Thanks!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link

ah man "torture" is amazing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

i actually like "Hot Hot Hot!!!" the song is just so funky and fun. they were just throwing things at the wall and made a double album out of it. didn't like it as a single and agree with piscesx that "How Beautiful You Are" should have been the single instead. "A Thousand Hours" need to be on the album as it fits in at the perfect time. "Torture" is stunning, so heavy. i would probably only rank "Shiver and Shake" and "Hey You" in the meh category. the later might just be a product of being left off of the original CD version and never really found it's way back. my two cents in 2020 and good piece Alfred.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link

today i would probably vote for "All I Want."

Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

We happen to be sitting in our living room, watching a TV production of their 40th Anniversary concert (Hyde Park, London), with closed captioning on. I’ve really never paid attention to his lyrics before, but a lot of them kinda read like “dummy” lyrics... I dunno.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

Every song on this is so good, except for "A Thousand Hours" which I hate

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

i actually like "Hot Hot Hot!!!" the song is just so funky and fun. they were just throwing things at the wall and made a double album out of it. didn't like it as a single and agree with piscesx that "How Beautiful You Are" should have been the single instead. "A Thousand Hours" need to be on the album as it fits in at the perfect time. "Torture" is stunning, so heavy. i would probably only rank "Shiver and Shake" and "Hey You" in the meh category. the later might just be a product of being left off of the original CD version and never really found it's way back. my two cents in 2020 and good piece Alfred.

― Bee OK, Wednesday, April 22, 2020

Thank you. I prefer the Mixed Up version of HHH!!! but the vocal is an intestinal cramp.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

you’re an intestinal cramp

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

*groan*

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

I love this record and I really love the b-sides disc it came with. My favourite orange thing in the world.

https://www.popsike.com/pix/20120318/251020704065.jpg

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

omigod

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link

Oh that is beautiful

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:20 (three years ago) link

I would cut Torture and Fight (both cheesy in similar ways) but the rest is perfect. Why Can’t I Be You also grates.
It took me a while to get into them but these days, besides the obvious ones, 1000 Hours (Dan you are crazy) and Icing Sugar are amongst my faves.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

FOR HOW MUCH LOOOONGER CAN I CATERWAUL LIKE A SAD VULTURE INTO THIS WIIII-HIIIIII-HINND

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

I would ditch Snakepit, Shiver and Shake, Torture, and Fight. Only saving Hey You because the album title is in the lyrics and Hot Hot Hot because of the kervorkian remix.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

saving Hey You because the album title is in the lyrics
the album title is literally the first line of the first track, "The Kiss"

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Bonus, then I’m happy to ditch Hey You too! Are there other albums where the title appears in the lyrics to different songs?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

All this debate underscores my point -- thanks to Alfred for singling it out -- that the band essentially provided a full array of choices and left you to decide what works best.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

xp: Yes, Wish is another album that has two potential title tracks.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

"The Snakepit" and "Torture" are among the best songs on the album, IMO.

At one point I'd turned this album into a very angry/disjointed playlist:

The Kiss
Torture
How Beautiful You Are...
The Snakepit
All I Want
Like Cockatoos
Shiver and Shake
Fight

^^^ 100% baller IMO

Also, I played "Fight" in high school English class after we discussed "Do not go gentle into that good night" and got a bunch of the honors metalheads into the album.

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Yeah I dunno. I find Fight pretty cringey these days. And Torture is mostly ruined by that dated horn preset.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

Snakepit, If Only Tonight and Cuckatoos are all-time though.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

"Torture" has a cracker of a bass line.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link

Boris/Simon/Pearl are so good on this album

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Listening to this straight through for the first time in ages and I severely underrate this album

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

every song on this is flawless even the bad ones

orifex, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

I listened to that bright orange 12" of b-sides more than the actual album. Also I really loved the cover art during this era of the Cure, aside from the music. My favorite of all their logos!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

Amazed I still have my vinyl copy of this after regrettably purging so many good quality records and CDs during my teen years.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

It's my favorite Cure album. I think "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" should've been on it instead of "Shiver and Shake" and "A Thousand Hours", but it was an embarrassment of riches really.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

hi!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link


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