Ethically Iffy, Morally Questionable, Politically Incorrect and/or Roundly Objectionable Songs by Your Favorite Artists

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dunno, find Young's vulnerability in that song at odds with the subject - but get the flak

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

welcome back alex!

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

Alice in Chains - "Queen of the Rodeo"

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

agnostic front - public assistance

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

slayer - satan doesn't like it when you jack off on the seat

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

TSOL - Code Blue

WilliamC, Saturday, 7 October 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

Type O Negative - Der Untermensch

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

Speaking of X, Johnny Hit and Run Pauline is a tough listen even if it's meant as a sicko character study.

that's not my post, Sunday, 8 October 2017 03:19 (six years ago) link

Foo Fighters - Big Me (we know u got a big dick Grohl don't gotta rub it in)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 October 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link

Aphex Twin - Windowlicker
Devo - Mongoloid

plp will eat itself (NickB), Sunday, 8 October 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link

Not a Lemmon stan, whatever that is, but am sure that Run For Your Life is less about an imagined girlfriend-murdering character and more about a (quite juvenile) black humour based around some of the more questionable tropes of rock & roll - dry clowning without really questioning the underlying issue. Obvious that Lennon would feel embarrassed about it later, most people feel this way about their juvenile humour, especially when it has that personal connection to his physical violence.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 8 October 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link

hi alex in nyc!!

my first answers are "shake ya ass" and "bitch please II" but there are so many

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 October 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link

the the : violence of truth.

i never did get a response as to why matt felt the need to use the n word.

mark e, Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:20 (six years ago) link

Lots of Death in June.

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link

If Death In June is your favourite artist you can hardly be surprised at their / his questionable ethics.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Sunday, 8 October 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link

He's not my favourite artist by any means, but I still have a lot of time for the early stuff when he was part of the Current 93/Coil/NWW crew.

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:02 (six years ago) link

Not a Lemmon stan, whatever that is, but am sure that Run For Your Life is less about an imagined girlfriend-murdering character and more about a (quite juvenile) black humour based around some of the more questionable tropes of rock & roll - dry clowning without really questioning the underlying issue. Obvious that Lennon would feel embarrassed about it later, most people feel this way about their juvenile humour, especially when it has that personal connection to his physical violence.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

"run for your life" is the work of the lennon who, in his youth, delighted in doing physical caricatures of cripples, and was only dissuaded from same slowly and at great length.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

Yes, that's what I mean, a cruel, juvenile sense of humour, which he later grew out of (not saying he was a wonderful person later on, but he stopped *this* bullshit at least, eventually.) Think RFYL is degrees more interesting than those horrible impressions though.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 8 October 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

the older i get the more credit i'm willing to give lennon for, like, actual personal growth, which was not a necessity for him after about 1963. lennon thought mocking cripples was hilarious, eventually grew out of it and became embarassed by it... and then you have people who mock cripples when they're fucking 70 years old and get elected president anyway. lennon wasn't a wonderful person, but these days i'm not honestly convinced that humanity has much better to offer.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 8 October 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

More early Squeeze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqkb-UAjebg
Thankfully they grew out of this kind of thing

PaulTMA, Sunday, 8 October 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

<i>Devo - Mongoloid</i>

Ah, good one. Totally forgot that one. Also, "Pink Pussycat" is vaguely disquieting in that capacity (though still an excellent track, to my mind).

The point upthread about the Stranglers going well out of their way to be provocative in that era is completely spot-on, but that does't necessarily absolve them, so to speak.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Oops, i've forgotten how to properly format here. It's been that long.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

I can think of a few but black metal is low-hanging fruit.

Also: what's so morally objectionable about 'Windowlicker'? The French lyric 'j'aime faire des croquettes au chien', i.e. 'I like to make biscuits out of dog meat'? The video? Its prelude, perhaps, but that assumes the song is inseparable from its visual component.

pomenitul, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

'Windowlicker' is offensive UK slang for someone with Down's syndrome or a similar disability

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

Ah, I had no idea. My French-inflected mind automatically associated it with 'faire du lèche-vitrine, i.e. 'window-shopping'.

pomenitul, Monday, 9 October 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

Devo - Mongoloid

if this one bothers you probably don't pay attention to the lyrics on any of the Hardcore Devo stuff, especially "Bamboo Bimbo". just gross all around.

frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Gil Scott Heron - The Subject Was Faggots

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

'Windowlicker' is offensive UK slang for someone with Down's syndrome or a similar disability

― plp will eat itself (NickB),

I had no idea

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

I don't think it's that commonplace, I'd never heard anyone say it, I only found out about it due to this crappy punk band from London that were around in the 00s called Short Bus Window Lickers, I knew what Short Bus meant and that made it pretty obvious.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

i'm about the same age as RDJ, maybe its use was confined to that generation

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

Sparks - Young Girls

kitchen person, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

Maybe nick its only used in a certain part of the uk? pretty sure we are about the same age roughly

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

In the past I've heard it used in both Western Scotland and London, fwiw

MaresNest, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

I've only ever (over)heard it being used twice.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

I've heard it in west of scotland in the 90s. Well more "Windae" licker obv.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

I'm from Australia and encountered it in imported English culture before the Aphex record.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

Weird thing to be hipster about

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

On the same Aphex vibe I have always felt Rubber Johnny was built around horror of physical disability. Perhaps more Chris Cunningham's fault than Richard James'.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 12 October 2017 08:31 (six years ago) link

Ah, I had no idea. My French-inflected mind automatically associated it with 'faire du lèche-vitrine, i.e. 'window-shopping'.

― pomenitul

i kind of assumed it was a drug reference, some variation of "windowpane"

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 12 October 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

This was my assumption too.

how's life, Thursday, 12 October 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

I don't know if morally objectionable is the right word, and I think it's an amazing songwriting but I never know how to feel about Graham Parker's "You Can't Be Too Strong." Not many songs have taken on abortion in an artistic way, and he has since claimed it being interpreted as anti-abortion was incorrect (he was intending to present it from three perspectives then "you decide what's wrong" as he sings at the end) but...it's always somewhat troubled me even though like I said I don't completely know how to feel about it or interpret it.

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

some of you ppl don't like characterizations in lyrics

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 October 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

<i>Devo - Mongoloid</i>

Ah, good one. Totally forgot that one. Also, "Pink Pussycat" is vaguely disquieting in that capacity (though still an excellent track, to my mind).

― Alex in NYC

"bamboo bimbo" is miles more offensive than either of these. just a vile song.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 13 October 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

There are a few tracks by NWA that would qualify ! Right now I'm listening to "She Swallowed It"...

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:19 (six years ago) link

The police deserve a bit more respect than they got from those guys imo

President Keyes, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

Saw "Mongoloid" mentioned, and I'll add a lot of stuff from those "Hardcore Devo 1974-77" collections.

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

As frogbs noted

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

Came in to say "Run For Your Life," which I just can't see as a clever persona piece, it's just a mean ugly bad song I hope he later regretted.

So I guess I'll go with "Beat on the Brat."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 October 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link


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