rolling emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards 2017

actually yeah this album is really really awesome

i was already pretty into it and the sax solo on "oh brother" just knocked me out, wow

anybody in this thread love knapsack and the jealous sound? bc some of those dudes are in a new band called racquet club, and their new album came out today, and it’s pretty much exactly what you’d expect of a post-knapsack/jealous sound record, and i love it

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson)

yuuuup

https://ironchic.bandcamp.com/album/you-cant-stay-here

the caracara record is still in regular rotation, that thing is the real deal

also agreed with archcarrier that the racquet club record is basically a continuation of the jealous sound and it fucking rules. "blood on the moon" is such a great song, he has such a strange and individual ear for hooks

I like that Cara Cara record a lot!

oh my god this oliver houston album just knocked me on my ass

It only took me eight months to notice this album, thank you discover weekly

legit lol-ed at the Sharon Van Etten in-joke Oliver Houston end that record with. Sounds like they've got quite a few of those geeky allusions scattered throughout the record but that one especially has gotta confound the shit out of anybody who doesn't get the reference.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/10/16/emos-greatest-second-acts/

With the news (to me) that Jeremy Enigk is releasing a new album this month.

fuck the Partner album is so addictive, more power-pop than emo but so fun. and funny! I wish more albums were funny!

jeremy enigk is releasing a new album this month?!?!?!?!??!?!? aaa!!!!!!

wait it came out last week?!?!?!!

brb

i always get overwhelmed by how beautiful his albums are. production is usually perfect too

That oliver Houston album is great. Loving the new Front Bottoms, Iron Chic and Worriers records.

man how did jeremy enigk release his best ever solo album in 2017

it's so beautiful

the racquet club record has been playing over and over in my head for the past month

I admit the Turnover record wasn't doing much for me but ahead of seeing them on tuesday (w/ Emma Ruth Rundle and Elvis Depressedly supporting, which feels like a dream lineup contrived just for me) I have been giving it another shot and it sounds so lush and good

man how did jeremy enigk release his best ever solo album in 2017

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:20 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's so beautiful

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:30 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just finished the first song and it was perfection.

that album is in my top five this year, he killed it

about halfway through its very pretty. think its gonna stick for me too

a very emo story...
news editor of consequence of sound has been catfishing women for years using the photos of Topshelf Records owner

.@toomuchfuzz (Michelle Geslani) has been using my identity and likeness to catfish women online since at least 2011. a statement: pic.twitter.com/N4qik8Dvwj

— LiLdRuMmErBoY85 (@kevinduquette) November 2, 2017

My statement regarding yesterday's allegations @kevinduquette pic.twitter.com/jYf0rtPDVW

— mich e//e (@toomuchfuzz) November 3, 2017

wow @ pulling the "coming out" apology pivot post-spacey

Pianos Become the Teeth sound like an emo band again and I'm not sure how to feel about that yet

https://open.spotify.com/track/5kEHz2d1bafXdAem3PfIya

oh what's up rolling emo thread. i like the new dashboard song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SANXNco_y4

yesssss

This seems a key read

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/unraveling-the-sexism-of-emos-third-wave/

there's probably an instance in the brand new thread of me... not exactly defending "me vs. maradona" but thinking it was more self-aware and self-loathing than, say, any song from your favorite weapon, and ofc that makes me feel sick now

Where did we lose the plot? When I think about the decades that immediately preceded third-wave emo—about D.C. punk, riot grrrl, Kurt Cobain proclaiming women the future of rock—I’m astonished that it happened at all.

what jenn gets at here is something i've thought about a lot. i mean, nothing moves in a straight line; things fluctuate and loop around themselves. but still, as a genre emo started out as a somewhat gendered response to hardcore (i mean it was still a boy's club but it was a boy's club that seemed to long to subvert or reject masculinity) that over the course of 15 years rerouted itself into outright misogyny. (of course this description kinda flattens how many different things emo became just within the '90s)

I think it came from how early emo was about really laying your insides bare, putting your emotional baggage right out there. This idea gave gross dudes what they saw as license to just spit out all their misogynistic baggage out there because that's what they were feeling without the smallish scene politics to keep their shit in check. (I mean early emo wasn't all wine and roses either but there's definitely a change when mainstream emo hit larger audiences.)

^^ yeah that's basically the conclusion i've come to myself

Baring your soul can lead to some terrifying shit if your soul is filled with garbage.

tbh I don't really think there's anything wrong with that "Sugar We're Going Down" line (though there's plenty of other ugly or gross Wentz lyrics esp from that era)

agreed and agreed. i was just thinking of the distance in perspective just between from under the cork tree and infinity on high

wait actually, sorry, i’m drunk, which “sugar we’re going down” lyric are we referring to

the "notch in your bedbost / line in a song" one

anyway, that new Camp Cope song is massive

yes that line is great

i'm super loving Young Jesus

That Pinegrove statement is insanely vague but still troubling.

I might be erring on the side of optimism here but it reads like a cautious reaction/reflection as opposed to damage control (this is of course subject to change as facts emerge)

I suspect it's quite bad. The statement twists itself into knots trying to avoid saying what he did, which completely negates the apology and makes me suspect the worst.

It's so easy to nitpick these apologies, because they're inherently self-serving, but this one particularly left a foul taste in my mouth. He avoids saying "I did it," or even mentioning what "it" is. And he plays the "I'm trying to respect the privacy of the victim" card, which would be thoughtful if not for the two long paragraphs of superfluous identifying details about her, which do nothing except to justify how he might have "monumentally misread" the situation. Gross.

it's an extremely confusing statement

It's confusing by design, I think. I've seen quite a few people on Twitter who think he's apologizing for sleeping with consenting fans on the road and don't understand what the big deal is. That part of the apology is conversational catnip, but it's also beyond the scope of what he's been accused of and is apologizing for. It just blurs things and changes the conversation.

I'm inclined to agree with you Evan. It's either one of two things, what simon said, that it's just an overly cautious attempt to get ahead of the game of something possibly small, or it's intentionally obfuscating something much bigger. I feel like the latter comes across as more likely given how vague the apology is.

unfortunately from what i've heard (which is... just whispers at the moment, so i'm not in a position to clarify beyond this extremely vague post, but hopefully it can kinda... prepare people for what's going to happen next) this isn't good

fucking hell

Nobody's perfect and most publications are trying to cover this stuff sensitively, but I suspect music media is going to have to have a conversation with itself about how it's covered this story. Letting an abuser define the narrative is bad precedent—it makes the story not about the abuse, but about the abuser's soul-searching journey— and I suspect the widespread adoption of his "sexual coercion" terminology is going to look very embarrassing soon.

It's a tricky story to report, especially with what's on the record right now, but it's not the press's job to do P.R. for an abuser.

eh in this case i don’t think the press had much choice