Guess: The chart position that the new Morrissey album "Low in High School" debuts at.

This week's most cancelled pre-order: 'Low In High School' by Morrissey: https://t.co/IOlNcfFKZM

— Norman Records (@normanrecords) October 5, 2017

haha damn

"People were pre-ordering the album, just so they could cancel it"

hard for me to think of a rock icon who has so annoyed and sickened 1/2 of his fanbase by simply being himself. (the other half are as fervent as ever )

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

this tedious old racist cancelled his show tonight, half an hour after he was due onstage, on the grounds that it was too chilly outside

After all this, it'll probably still make number one. Unless Sam Smith.

I like him

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Late news: Mozambique withdraws album because the charts are too cold.

this album is not good

Mozambique? Just seen that...

Ahem. S/be "Moz"

Morrissey's interview with 'Der Spiegel' ensures that his German chart position won't be great either:

Morrissey’s interview with Der Spiegel was going quite well until he called the EU a “German empire” and Berlin “the capital of rape” pic.twitter.com/XTfidmkDo9

— Philip Oltermann (@philipoltermann) November 18, 2017

https://www.stereogum.com/1972241/morrissey-defends-kevin-spacey-and-harvey-weinstein-saying-victims-shouldve-known-what-could-happen/news/

"If you go through history, almost everyone is guilty of sleeping with minors." c'mon Moz

So very very VERY done with this man.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/review-morrisseys-low-in-high-school-w512057

"Teach your kids to recognize and despise all the propaganda/Filtered down by the dead echelon's mainstream media." c'mon Moz

I feel like he and Corgan could be BFFs now.

Fitting that The Quietus got Mr Agreeable out of semi-retirement to review this.

I feel like he and Corgan could be BFFs now

https://i.imgur.com/FF4BKHL.png

maybe Paul Joseph Watson is our generation's Morrissey

More like Morrissey is the Paul Joseph Watson of the geriatric indie kid generation.

Morrissey and Alex Jones both being barrel-chested middle-aged men who take their shirts of in public feels significant though.

Jello Biafra another member of this club:

http://musica.culturamix.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/jello-biafra/jello-biafra-14.jpg

lmao @ thinking this cunt is "two shitty opinions away" from anything in 2017 tho

*even more decades of unvarying littlejohn gobshite antics elapse* yes I'm definitely beginning to think morrissey might be straying from the righteous path somewhat

btw this album is terrible.

tbf I don't think Jello Biafra is likely to end up espousing any of these views any time soon

It's always weird to see anyone focus on chart positions in the 21st Century.

Mr Agreeable review is thrilling.

Every time Morrissey says some new horrible thing in an interview, two thing invariably happen. First, I feel disheartened and frustrated as a huge fan of his music, bewildered yet again at how out of step he is with the concerns of his own fans, and convinced that he has no one in his life who is not an employee or a sycophant to give him any perspective. You'd think I'd be used to this by now, but I'm not, and I doubt I ever will be.

But then I also feel frustrated by all the people I see issuing their latest denunciation of Morrissey, because I know that many of them are avowed fans of artists whose political views and/or personal behavior are at least as bad as his, if not worse. Admittedly, part of this is just me being defensive. But it's not that I want Morrissey to get a pass. It's more that I wish everyone in music who says or does repulsive things would get the kind of ridicule that Morrissey rightly does.

It reminds me of that Onion article, Man Always Gets Little Rush Out of Telling People John Lennon Beat Wife. There are definitely people who get a little rush out of talking about Morrissey's racism, and now, his idiotic victim-blaming--even as they themselves are unapologetic fans of '70s rock stars whose racial views were dubious at best, and who had sex with untold numbers of underage girls, for example.

This is not passive-aggressively directed at anyone in this thread, by the way. I don't know if it applies to any of you. I'm thinking of other people.

The new album has at least a couple of really good songs on it. "Spent the Day In Bed" still sucks.

nothing morrissey ever does really seems out of character to me. he strikes me as amazingly consistently annoying, personally, since at least 1992 or so. in fact I can think of no other rock star who has let more of his fans down on a regular basis by simply being himself.

Bloke is self centred. That is it.

No matter how horrible anything Morrissey says, it's still likeable than those bald fuckwads Quantick or Stubbs have ever managed

akm otm

can't we all agree that he's a loathsome racist and have done with it, perhaps that way there's a chance we never have to hear from him ever again

"If you go through history, almost everyone is guilty of sleeping with minors." c'mon Moz

throughout history most people ate meat too

He's an incorrigible racist but at least he isn't bald

Oh wait

Lesson from history: full-barnet fascist vegetarians are more of fucking horrible influence than slapheads. nb: Morrissey is a complete twat and I hope he dies.

why so ppl always say mean things about bald people it kind of hurts my feelings sometimes tbh

I try not to be sensitive about it because I be realize most men that still have hair will lose it and eventually go bald so they kind of need to distance themselves from it but still

So is this out yet? what ended up being the chart position for this album? Or is he tweeting stupid shit once again to remind people he has a new album out?

Ah not tweeting sorry just saying stupid shit

The album is out, the chart position will be as of Friday.

also,

Now would be a really bad time to reform The Smiths...

i wish that queen is dead reissue had instrumental versions. esp of some girls are bigger than others.

shakedown otm

baldy bastards

It's always weird to see anyone focus on chart positions in the 21st Century.

― yesca, Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

having had the (dubious) pleasure of reading morrissey's memoir he is extremely concerned with chart placement and i will be very glad if this underperforms for that reason.

Just when I think Morrissey can't possibly come out with anything more stupid than he has previously, he suddenly goes and outdoes himself. I often wonder if he's always held these views and just become less concerned with keeping his trap shut or if this stuff was a post-Smiths development - and if so, I wonder what actually had led him to have these views? There's also the idea that he's deliberately trolling everyone as some kind of fucked up promo campaign for his new record, but it's all been going on for too long now and I think he genuinely believes the shit he comes out with.

At this stage, there's a wide gulf in attitude between Morrissey and his increasingly disillusioned fanbase.

His self centered ness chimed with people when they had similar problems.

Now it doesn't.

It's true, we all used to be insane racists.

Album is number 2 in the midweeks (UK), behind Paloma Faith.

Pretty sure the Mr Agreeable review was more entertaining the album will be.

TS: Precious vegetarian fascist twats you can't fucking stand: Oswald Mosley vs Hitler vs Rustle fucking Brands vs Morrissey vs Stafford Cripps (token communist vegetarian, who liked to eat them raw - died in his 60's btw!)

Gonna have to start FP'ing the ILX baldists. NAGL shaming folk for a genetically inhairited part of their ageing process.

and is a total homophobic dick.

well was, of course. A true product of his era I suppose.

I seem to remember him going especially into apoplectic rage over Röhm's homosexuality and any other Nazi gays, repeatedly.

This album has grown on me. Even "Spent the Day in Bed" is alright to me now, it's really just the lyrics I don't care for. I think "Home Is a Question Mark" is a winner. It might be his worst LP, but there's some good stuff in there.

His new fixation on Israel is something. I'm guessing he played some shows there and liked the way he was received, so naturally he's got a song called "Israel" now, with lyrics like "they who reign abuse upon you / they are jealous of you as well". That was pretty much what I was afraid of when I saw the song title.

Readers of this thread may also be interested to know that at the show in DC last night, he touted this album's #1 placement on the US and UK vinyl charts, while also saying that it went to #10 on the "US... other charts" (actually #20 on the Billboard 200, but #3 on the rock album chart, I've just learned).

calz absolutely correct about Shirer -/I've.remembered his name now!

wondering now if this dimension of the shirer book (pub.1960) was what was responsible for the rash of films in the early 70s stressing the sexual decadence of the third reich (the damned, the night porter etc), which mostly starred dirk bogarde and were lapped up by some of the punky foax SPM admired when young (punky foax often cheekily pro the queer-cult elements the film-makers were a lot more ambivalent abt)

Could well be the case, because there wasn't a lot of competition for Shirer's book, and as turgid as it is - it was still probably the most comprehensive guide to the Nazis going right into the 70's, unless I've missed something.

yes, that's what i remember from the early 70s: grown-ups reading it and talking about it bcz it covered a lot of ground (not just sex) that was basically new to the general reading public

I think it's v readable! it's just bollocks is all

I read about a quarter of it and then audio-booked the rest and it is entertaining bollox. But to some extent all Hitler books are bollox and often over-reliant on Goebbels horrible diaries or like Shirer writing works of fiction really, which I think even Kershaw is guilty of to some extent. They just haven't got that nebulous Soviet archive that Stalin biographers have, which are so fucking massive they overwhelm some people.

*lol just spellchecked + Goebbels horrible Dairies almost submitted.

This week (or next), Moz dreams of number five....