Trump, October 2017: Apologize for untruth, u bum

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Treeship, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

does it matter if they're pro-impeachment or not? the republicans aren't going to favor his removal from office, ever. elections aren't for another year. don't they do enough empty gum-flapping as it is?

― bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, October 2, 2017 5:37

Yeah obviously the GOP will never do anything. It's about getting a message out with the appropriate level of severity. The public needs to be alarmed and made to push back against the idea of getting into a nuclear war. Trump's messaging is increasing the likeliehood NK will overreact. Currently we're sleepwalking into it. People were more engaged in fighting ACA repeal. They should be doing the same and much more on this issue. prepare the public for the possibility of NK doing atmospheric and reiterate that war can not be seen as an option in that case.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

I apologize for the dumb question in advance, but are people really believing NK actually has nuclear weapons? I thought it was understood they were a bunch of blowhards with no technical capabilities.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

they've had nuclear weapons for years

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

They have nuclear weapons. The technology they are still developing is long range missiles.

Treeship, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

Currently we're sleepwalking into it.

The favored verb is "stumbling."

"have a way of escalating."
"stumbles into a ruinous war"https://t.co/HG4Iah4C7S pic.twitter.com/MHfFO2vJqj

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) October 1, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

it's amusing to me our president threatens North Korea with genocide at least once a week and we still do the "stumbling" routine.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) September 27, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

I meant sleepwalking in terms of activists, liberal and left media, anti-war politicians etc.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

we have no leverage

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

Same could be said with the recent healthcare fights.

Xpost some argue they have long range capacity. http://www.theroot.com/why-we-should-fear-a-north-korean-nuclear-attack-expla-1818763114/amp

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

Really, the only effective public protest I can envision would be "throwing your bodies on the gears," as the Berkeley guy said 50+ years ago. Disruptive civil disobedience and fucking business-as-usual up, on a mass scale, not nice marches. (And I'm sure we would see a massive response with gunfire from the current state.)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

a mass protest / sit-in / march at NRA HQ would scare the shit out of me. you can imagine how many fucknuts would flock to that scene & open fire

flappy bird, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

Same could be said with the recent healthcare fights.

not true, the legislature responds to pressure and there were things to vote on.

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

foreign policy/military policy is now completely in the hands of the executive, there is no stopping it or influencing it if the executive is not open to being influenced and guess what

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

The news was making me feel shitty so I figured, hey, I'll watch some lighthearted episodes of Newsradio while I do stuff around the house. I shit you not: back-to-back, an episode about Mr. James absurdly running as an unqualified billionaire president followed by another with a b-plot about a hilarious Dilbert strip which was capped off with a Scott Adams cameo. And now I want to die.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, 2 October 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

there is no escape, OL, come get a hug

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

I still like that the campaign theme song for Mr James aborted presidential run was "Life's Been Good"

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 2 October 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

Yeah what I meant by putting that in quotes is that mental health is linked to social and environmental factors. When it comes up in discussions around shootings though sometimes it is taken as a simple explanation for the violence -- i.e. If mentally ill people got the help they needed, we wouldn't have these issues. But really I think the antisocial forces manifested in these shootings are systemic. Better access to mental health care is part of the picture, stricter gun laws are part of the picture -- these things will make us safer -- but still: why are so many American men drawn to kill?

― Treeship

it's a good question, and i am all for addressing the toxic mess "masculinity" has become in the 21st century. i also see a long list of problems here, some of which are easier to fix than others. addressing toxic masculinity is worth doing, but not just because it leads to mass murder; addressing the causes of mass murder is necessary, but toxic masculinity wouldn't be my first port of call.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile, the usual garbage

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/02/jared-kushner-email-account-white-house-243389

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-dog/2017/10/02/0ed509a0-a78c-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.9c7ac3526018

See Rex.

Rex is a big dog. Rex is the top dog. Rex has a good job. Rex can fly! Rex has a jet. Fly, Rex, fly. Rex flies to other lands. Rex sits. Rex shakes. Rex speaks. When Rex speaks, Rex thinks he speaks for the U.S.A.

See Donald. Donald owns Rex. Rex is Donald’s dog. Donald is loud. Donald is big. Donald is bigger than Rex. Donald is mean to Rex. When Rex speaks, Donald tweets. Donald tweets like a bird. Tweet, Donald, tweet. Donald’s tweets hurt Rex. Donald says: Bad, Rex! Do not speak, Rex. Rex, you do not speak for the U.S.A. Only Donald speaks for the U.S.A.

...

j., Tuesday, 3 October 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link

DANG.

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

old throbbing gristle sounds so good in 2017

you = too slow (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link

cheap-ass rich people.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link

The news was making me feel shitty so I figured, hey, I'll watch some lighthearted episodes of Newsradio while I do stuff around the house. I shit you not: back-to-back, an episode about Mr. James absurdly running as an unqualified billionaire president followed by another with a b-plot about a hilarious Dilbert strip which was capped off with a Scott Adams cameo. And now I want to die.

― this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Monday, October 2, 2017 4:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://68.media.tumblr.com/ff07337704e6f97a4a21639cb2cc4814/tumblr_nwmfkkJVt71tpri36o1_500.gif

weirdly I also watched these two episodes last night. somehow the presence of Scott Adams was much more disturbing than the Trump parallels

rob, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

I immediately skipped to another episode when Adams showed up, the one where Phil Hartman was fretting about a psychic having predicted his death. And then I turned the TV off.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353571-trump-what-happened-in-las-vegas-is-in-many-ways-a-miracle

he really does have the best words

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

managing to go lower than expectations every time

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

ok even I have to admit that's pretty jaw-dropping

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

"What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job, and we’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes by,” Trump told reporters.

“But I do have to say how quickly the police department was able to get in was really very much of a miracle. They’ve done an amazing job.”

eh, he's obviously talking about the police response being a miracle. this is nothing.

circa1916, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

TBF (as loath as I am TBF to Trump), he's talking about the swift police response being miraculous.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

xpost

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

I wish news orgs would refrain from issuing headlines that mislead the reader into believing that Trump said something mind-blowingly offensive when there are so very many instances in any given day when similar headlines would be wholly accurate.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

yeah, it's entirely unnecessary, but CLICKS

circa1916, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

Yeah, as much of a moron as he already is on a daily basis, the frequent willful misreading of his statements is tiresome and pointless.

Going all the way back to "bigly" (I'm on team "big league")

Trump: "I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, you've thrown our budget out of whack"

— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) October 3, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

god what a fucking dick

you = too slow (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

See? It takes him no time at all to vividly illustrate his crippling sociopathy with a single utterance.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

It's not miraculous that the police responded. This is still an example of this insane fartballoon's inability to process anything in terms other than that of the huckster, slathering inelegant and inappropriate adjectives of praise onto whatever subject that circumstances require to come out of his mouth.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

“In Texas and in Florida, we get an ‘A+’, and I’ll tell you what, I think we’ve done just as good in Puerto Rico and it’s actually a much tougher situation,” he continued.

he was *THIS* close to giving himself a grade for Puerto Rico even as the power is still out for everyone

you = too slow (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

this close to saying "I" and not "we", too.

nomar, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

"Just as good" sets my teeth on edge, even tho I know he's a moron.

we’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes by

Sure you will.

We absolutely will be talking about them. Talking and talking and talking. So much talking.

this is ridcolus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

a friend posted on FB that his abuela's best friend died in PR because he couldn't get to a hospital in time

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

But the budget

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

Trump to PR official: "So what’s your death count? Sixteen? You can be very proud, only sixteen instead of thousands in Katrina."

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 3, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

sic otm

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 October 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

(bill almost certainly would have passed)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link


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