if that's the same flappy cdr you posted a coupe years ago it bangs
― flopson, Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link
thanks! yeah it more or less is, swapped out a few but it’s basically the same.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 30 September 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link
Not as good as No Real Friend but My Whole Life Story from that first Holy Shit album was another fantastic collaboration.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 1 October 2017 06:20 (six years ago) link
I called into KXLU when Ariel was playing some of his old tapes almost two years ago, and I asked him what the words were in that song. it's "off in the world, off in the world of girls, i choke - i'm lost for words." anyway that's another thing that distinguishes DTBJ from the 4AD albums & reminds me of his old records.
Great to hear those 10" songs. "Nighttime is great" reminds me of this (for example the sound effects):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNoUgulTA8M
― EvR, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link
Thanks for asking about those lyrics, everytime I listen to the song I´m asking myself the same question.
― EvR, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 07:21 (six years ago) link
Thought it was "I churn" but otherwise got it right. Don't think it particularly matters, not to me anyway, with someone like AP.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
AP about to get needle dropped
Uh oh: I've just been informed. someone's writing a HIT piece on me-— Ariel Pink (@arielxpink) October 9, 2017
― Frozen CD, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
Was at his show last night and he started running his mouth off with disgusting misogynistic comments before the band even started playing. Most of the audience was made uncomfortable and barely anybody clapped after the first song. When people started walking out he shouted "Fuck you for leaving!" I know this is the dude's brand and all, but witnessing it firsthand was extremely off-putting – especially in the Trump era. I like his music enough, but not enough to put up with his repulsive antics. TBH I went specifically to see John Maus as the opener and regret staying as long as I did.
― Chantilly Bass, Monday, 16 October 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
damn what was he saying?
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 October 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
yeah, i'd expect more from someone playing with John Maus
https://pitchfork.com/news/john-maus-speaks-on-involvement-with-canceled-alt-right-adult-swim-show/
― sic And Mordy’s worst fans don’t deserve sic And Mordy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 October 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
weird that for all the awful and disgusting comments this dude has made you zero in on "he works with a guy who made some music for a bad TV show"
― frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
WOAH like it got worse after I left:
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/76j49s/sunday_daily_music_discussion_october_15_2017/doeqhd8/
― Chantilly Bass, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
ap's gf posted this on a friends page regarding that:
https://i.imgur.com/yCe5DqE.png
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
again CB what did he say exactly?
Fuck that show description in the reddit link sounds awful. Glad I decided not to go to the NYC show next month & see Girlpool instead. No time for trainwreck AP shows anymore, especially with that really nauseating scene described.
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
Witnessed one AP (whose music I loved up untill PomPom) concert, and that was a trainwreck even without the misogynist bullshit as of late. One of the worst concerts I ever saw. On par with a disastrous Sebadoh concert, where Lou Barlow walked off after 10 mins and fuck you'd the whole audience. Don't ever buy a ticket for your favourite lo-fi artist concert, kids.
I feel kinda sad Maus is lumped together with this tool, but I guess that's all his own doing, associating himself with Pink up until today. Even though the P4K piece Whiney linked reads more like genuine misguidance/cluelessness instead of malicious or mean-spirited. No excuses tho.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
ap and maus are both clueless academic dudes that grew up rich and entitled. i dont know how it relates to this current conversation, but i always put them in that context.
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link
Nah I needed to hear that, ty. Maus is a twat too. His music is just... so good. Which sucks.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
wasn't kim fowley heavily involved in his past couple albums too
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 16 October 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
I can't remember what AP said word for word, but he started the show by saying something to the tone of holding his underage girlfriend hostage backstage in a grotesque manner. When people were offended, he started going off at them like a gas lighter. That was enough to make me want to GTFO. Even if it allegedly ended up being consensual, making an audience believe you're being abusive towards your girlfriend onstage is no joke. Nobody goes to a show to see a domestic abuse act.
― Chantilly Bass, Monday, 16 October 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
xp Pom Pom, yeah. Co-wrote a handful of the songs, gave AP titles & lyrics.
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 October 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link
yeah that is fucking insane and really fucked up
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 October 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link
@Le Bateau Ivre - what happened specifically? just curious. was it him solo or the band years?
― flappy bird, Monday, 16 October 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
dating a 20 year old fan is creepy enough on its own but that's all very fucked up. unfortunately not too surprising with his history of misogyny but this is certainly on another level
i can forgive maus for being a naive moron about mde though, glad he's distanced himself
― ufo, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link
isnt that guy super smart though? like a philosophy professor? not buying the dumb act.
i had a friend that moved out to Cali a few years ago and hung around in the scene w Ariel and R Stevie Moore. she was going w a lot of creepy guys at the time and it seemed like a iffy idea but he was pretty nice to her from what i heard. now she's living back at home now and has given up drugs and hanging around sketchy characters thank god.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
I definitely am skeptical that this was just an act. Ariel Pink is known for having weird breakdowns on stage, not for carefully orchestrated theatrical moments.
Both Maus and Pink are exceptionally talented artists. That's a completely separate issue though.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
having weird breakdowns on stage, not for carefully orchestrated theatrical moments
these can be one and the same
"Performance Art"TM just think of AP as another youtube asshole doing it for LOLZ
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
I mean, I know this term has fallen out of vogue, but I think he's crazy.
Not that it excuses anything he does or says.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link
What's the pointing of being a star if you can't date a 20 year old fan. 20! If that's not fair game, what is?
Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okay, but wanting a much younger (but legal woman) is taboo now. I mean, sorry for the obvious anti-PC stuff, but I am truly sick of much of it.
The rest (e.g., abuse) is another matter, of course.
― Nobody’s trying to be nefarious; nobody’s trying to hide anythin (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link
I agree that 20 is not underage but um
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link
Dating a 20 year old fan is fine. Mistreating them is not.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link
That middle paragraph though. I do not sign off on it.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link
Also describing women as "game" is pretty fucked. Flagged ur post Rudolph.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link
Wait who’s fisting who
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link
Who fists the fisters?
― Treeship, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link
Every night PC Dies at Rudy's
― calstars, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okay
damn right it is
― brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link
his dad's twitter https://twitter.com/marioros
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:22 (six years ago) link
Dr. Mario Colonoscopist is pro-Harvey Weinstein
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:24 (six years ago) link
Like asshole like son.
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:25 (six years ago) link
Also his Dad:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.ocregister.com/2014/01/30/2-pleas-end-fraud-convictions-tied-to-buena-park-surgical-center/amp/
― Chantilly Bass, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:32 (six years ago) link
in addition to all that coming on stage stumble-down drunk to a crowd of people who paid to see you and may have travelled a good distance is a pretty big asshole move
― frogbs, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
and to think I was about to post something here about liking the new album...
Saw him once (circa 2010?) and he was in relatively good behavior. He was obviously a weird guy but held it together for the show.
― skip, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
his dad's twitter https://twitter.com/marioros― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:22 (ten hours ago) Permalink
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:22 (ten hours ago) Permalink
Pink was re-tweeting his dad's pro-weinstein comments the other day. Do we just chalk this up to Pink being an oddball/weirdo, or is he actually kind of a shitty human being? I mean he hangs out with Greg Gutfield, acts like an asshole to his girlfriend in front of an audience, says really, really horrible things in interviews...but he makes good music? Is that enough to save him from the same fate that's ending Matt Mondanile's career?
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link
In another reddit throwaway account:
I saw this post from the daily discussionhttps://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/76j49s/sunday_daily_music_discussion_october_15_2017/doeqhd8/So I just kind of wanted to make a thread about this.I saw Ariel Pink at the Metro in Chicago in 2010 after Before Today came out, Os Mutantes and someone else I can't remember opened.I was standing at the front of the stage with two girls I went to the show with, like right in front of Ariel Pink himself.During one of the songs, he jumped off stage and came right at, I didn't really know what he was doing, but he came right up to me, grabbed my face and started kissing me, like full tongue down threat and everything. He then turned and did the same thing to the couple girls I was with, and then some other girls who started crowding up to the stage, and jumped back up and kept playing with the rest of the band.I uh...wasn't really into it, and I felt pretty embarrassed, but I just kind of thought it was "part of the show" so I didn't really think much of it. But having seen all the stuff about Matt Mondanile come out the past couple days and all the details about makes me feel like that was all not very above board?So I just wanted to get that out. Thanks for reading.
https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/76t96k/in_response_to_the_ariel_pink_story_from/
Can anyone confirm this is something this asshole does at shows?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
Two guys shoving their fists up each other's asses is a-okaydamn right it is
― brimstead, Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:41 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, go fist yourself rudipherous. make sure you take your head out of there first tho.
― map, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link
Someone in the that Reddit thread posted this video with him leaving the stage to make out with the audience, so it definitely has happened. You can see it around the 2:35 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=regt_xy8N-M&feature=youtu.be
― Chantilly Bass, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
he was good last night :/
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
john maus was boring af tho
is the Chapel a pretty small place? I was surprised he was doing 3 nights there
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link