Three Greatest Dub Albums
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
also it's 1980 but reading your post I immediately thought of Prince Far I's Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter 3
― rob, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
incredible album
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
Or if those thread's are TLDR, try Joe Gibbs 'Africa Dub, Almighty, Chapter 3'.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
Gibbs is a good suggestion. I noticed you didn't mention Lee Perry--usually I'd assume this was too obvious, but if you haven't heard Super Ape...
― rob, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
I think these links all still work
Blood Gonna Run: Dreader Than Dread Sounds Vol 1None Shall Escape the Judgment: Dreader Than Dread Sounds Vol 2Message to the UnGodly: Dreader Than Dread Sounds Vol 3
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
above mixes are all late 70s, heavy dub productions feat. the guys cited in the original post (Augustus Pablo, Sly & Robbie, Burning Spear) plus Prince Far I, Linval Thompson, Scientist, Yabby You, Big Youth, Johnny Clarke, Prince Alla, Jah Lion, Niney the Observer, Tapper Zukie, Hugh Mundell, tons of others
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link
https://youtu.be/IRxSzJolw4o
My favourite Joe Gibbs dub
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 September 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
lol what is it with UK folks and that Joe Gibbs album? I mean, it is v good and I love it, but I'm not sure what distinguishes it from the other volumes in that series or other Joe Gibbs comps/productions from that era (of which there are *a lot*) But I've noticed that this is often one of *the* dub albums that UK folks (Bobby Gillespie springs to mind) routinely bring up.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
like was it just more widely available than others, or did it have a hit on it, or did John Peel love it or something
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
Well it’s the classic dub album of the punk era (featuring in the Punk Rock movie) of course, but I do gravitate to it more than the other Gibbs albums because I think it’s the most interesting.
― Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
Harry Mudie In Dub Conference vols 1-3 is mentioned in 1st post in that "extraordinary reggae" thread. as is the Vulcans - Star Trek albumThe later Scientist stuff like Wins the World Cup is pretty out there at times.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link
I like that Vulcans album but its basically a novelty record
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
featuring in the Punk Rock movie
aha! see, I didn't know this.
Mad Professor would prob fit the bill too. No Protection is full dub remix of Massive Attack's Protection. And anything early 80s from him, eg 1-4 of the Dub Me Crazy series.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
its basically a novelty record
ok and?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
I mean he's saying straight-ahead dub doesn't really do it for him so...
maybe Wackies stuff, such as Nature's Dub. There's also some artist albums from Wackies that include the dubs for all tracks.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
but I am really interested in the late 70s stuff.
Actually think early 80s is going to appeal to you more
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
I don't really have a larger point about the Vulcans record, it's definitely not straight-ahead dub or even really related to the Jamaican reggae/dub scene at all. It does have a lot of goofy synth work on it and that does make it unusual for the time.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
Aswad's New Chapter of Dub isn't full of wild mixes but they're dubs of catchy, melodic tunes that still have enough typical roots reggae roughness to them. New Chapter itself is a must-listen imo.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
Another UK guy, Dennis Bovell. The Pressure Sounds comp from a few years back is good. Brain Damage isn't a dub album but think you'd like it. He also worked with Linton Kwesi Johnson. LKJ in Dub.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 September 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
Joe Gibbs is really great. As well as Africa Dub Chapters, his Majestic Dub album is a corker
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 28 September 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
good suggestions itt and outic's mixes are the best, have to lol though @ "non-boring classic dub"
obv scratch perrys black ark stuff should appeal. apeology is a good start
― marcos, Friday, 29 September 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link
i'm not really into classic dub but i really like this bovell track. it's on this great comp: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Lovers-And-Rockers/release/2444020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmkDyY80pEY
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link
the blackbeard is the only dub track on it, though
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
this is a great dub of a johnny osbourne track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeWcnxBRqco
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link
oh man i whittled lee perry's Arkology box down to one disc of my favorites and it's so f-in good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WCdJV0UnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdinv1c0gCU
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link
Post your tracklisting!
I just picked up the Don Letts Dread Meets Punk Rockers Uptown comp:https://www.discogs.com/Don-Letts-Social-Classics-Volume-2-Dread-Meets-Punk-Rockers-Uptown/master/195396
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 29 September 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
here you go, just one human's opinion but these are all beautiful tracks. yes i do love the police and theives/dreadlock in moonlight riddimThe Meditations - Life Is Not EasyJunior Murvin - TediousThe Heptones & Jah Lion - Mr. PresidentMax Romeo - Chase The DevilLee Perry - Dreadlocks In MoonlightErrol Walker - In These TimesMax Romeo & The Upsetters - NormanJunior Murvin - Police And ThievesUpsetters - No Peace DubThe Upsetters - Party Time (Part 2)Augustus Pablo Meets The Upsetter - Vibrate OnThe Upsetters - VibratorThe Upsetters - Bird In HandThe Congoes - CongomanGeorge Faith - To Be A Lover (Have Some Mercy)Lee Perry - Curly Locks
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link
captain ganja and the space patrol
― the late great, Friday, 29 September 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/user/1153731601/playlist/3xnzs6o5ch6TOVwT4tUNLy
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 29 September 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link
― the late great, Friday, Septem
I didn't know this record before, its really good!
― saer, Friday, 29 September 2017 11:10 (six years ago) link
^just started that, it is really good and not what I expected based on the title. So far it sounds like Dennis Bovell (makes sense given the shared English lovers rock context) but with lots of pretty space jazz instrumentation and some weird effects and samples.
I was thinking about this thread last night and while I personally love "boring classic dub," I can sympathize with listening to something like Pick A Dub and finding it pretty dry, especially if you're coming to it with the popular notion that dub is far-out boundary-pushing wizardry. Anyway my partner is also not that into nodding along with totally desiccated drum-and-bass versions, so thinking about something she might like I put on Jimmy Radway & the Fe Me Time All Stars Dub I, which I don't think gets talked about too much but is definitely one of my favorite dub albums. Pressure Sounds reissued it about a decade ago. Remixed by Errol Thompson in 1975 so the dubbing is thoughtful and not too wild: echo and mixing board tricks mostly, a bit of tape manipulation too. There's zero vocals on the original album, but instead you get to hear all these amazing players--Vin Gordon on trombone especially--take turns providing the melody.
Back to Africa:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za2tSB9D1bg
― rob, Friday, 29 September 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
huh never heard of this one
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 September 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
I'd especially recommend it if you're into the Randy's/Impact! soul-influenced stuff. the Rough Guide calls it something like "one of the hardest dub albums" ever, though it's heavy in a funkadelic way not in a Yabby You dread way
― rob, Friday, 29 September 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
will we ever hear from the original poster again
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 September 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
Try ub40's present arms in dub. It's all the dub i ever needed. You are right most of it is dull as fuck. But ub40 nailed it. Great bass, great echoes, great tunes, great everything.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 29 September 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
Lots of great responses here. Thanks so much.
Wow @ that Joe Gibbs record. So many archetypal dub elements there. I think I spotted at least 3 90s Jungle samples just from dropping the needle a few times.
I'm still working my way through some of these other suggestions.
I like Bass Culture by Linton Kwesi Johnson because it has the dub part in the second half, and the first half has the spoken word element. So it's dubby, but pretty interesting overall.
Speaking of spoken word, the production on Private Life by Grace Jones is pretty amazing.
― 3×5, Monday, 2 October 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
if this is our new rolling dub thread I just want to say how wall-to-wall incredible this album is, super-long dub jaammmzzzzz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opUf6L4U8Lw
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
This Captain Ganja thing... holy shit!
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 October 2017 09:10 (six years ago) link
I agree that based on the opening post Wackies is a good recommendation. If I had to reverse engineer the idea of original dub just from millennial techno derivations of same (e.g. Kit Clayton and Rhythm & Sound) I think i’d Imagine something quite close to the Wackies sound.
Try e.g. Horace Andy’s ‘Dance Hall Style’.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 10:46 (six years ago) link
Wackie's was a great recommendation. I started listening to African Roots Act 1 by Bullwackies All Stars, and it grabbed me immediately:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gkkkSSdXSQ
― 3×5, Sunday, 22 October 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link
Also, from that Dreader Than Dread series posted earlier, "Oil in a Babylon" by General Echo is a perfect reggae record, It has the dub elements, and the toasting, and it all works together wonderfully.
One thing that has always driven me nuts about dancehall/toasting is that they often dont care what key theyre in. The riddim might be in a minor and theyll just toast in D major or something.
― 3×5, Sunday, 29 October 2017 10:58 (six years ago) link