Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

I caught up in my original-series rewatch to the BOB-Leland reveal episode last night. Maddy murder sequence so bloody horrifying; I'd forgotten it's cross-cut with Roadhouse/Julee Cruise/giant/Hank Worden's "I'm sorry."

it's so scary and so sad

and like the end of fwwm, not much happens really, it's horrifying almost exclusively in the way it's shot

and in the sound design/editing

also, the Cooper-Truman law-officer-conservatism interp of the series doesn't work here. They are either helpless or inadequate before Evil.

otoh, Piper Laurie in Japanese male drag...

yeah that's a rough part of an otherwise excellent stretch of the show

I forgot Nadine superstrength started so early

i rewatched the first 2 episodes of the original series. in episode 2 Nadine bends the bars on her thigh master. same episode has Audrey's dream dance, Bob, the glowing sound in the Great Northern furnace, etc.. same episode has Cooper's red room dream and Laura's whispering. Zen, or the Skill to Catch a Killer really sets up season 3.

"the glowing sound in the Great Northern furnace," really this was in the old series? I forgot about this

i think its where Bob has his circle of candles tho i may be confusing it with the ensuing dream sequence. i know for sure it happens when the arms has his back turned and is rubbing his hands together

bob isn't in the great northern

at that point in time iirc

we should have a separate thread for the Many Strange Opinions of Adam Bruneau

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guwl1w0yFGk&t=101s

is this some other furnace or something i am missing?

also i just remembered during the rock throwing sequence they are looking for the killer with the letter J. Judy setup.

It's not the same tone from season 3.

the most surreal moment in ep 14 (BOB reveal) might be all the Navy personnel bouncing rubber balls in the Great Northern. wtf.

The ringing sound is heard in the basement of the hospital (the context is a little clearer in the European pilot ending which Lynch re-edited into Cooper's dream in "Zen, or the Art to Catch a Killer"), around 5:36 in the video below (spoilers, obviously):

youtube.com/watch?v=MLrwVk7ywqo

It sounds slightly different than the Great Northern drone in The Return, though:

youtube.com/watch?v=XqPtmnKL66M

Xpp

stop using German TV guide titles, it's very confusing

RIP Grady Tate
http://www.npr.org/2017/10/10/556916456/grady-tate-prodigious-jazz-drummer-and-noted-vocalist-dies-at-85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO49lv__RM

I had no memory of Jane frickin' Greer showing up as Norma's mother.

I've made it through Leland's death in the first series. Before Christmas it'll be the rest of it, the Criterion FWWM, and then I'll be ready for The Return.

Would recommend seeing The Missing Pieces if you can, post-fwwm and pre-return

well yeah, that's the major reason i'm interested in the CC.

(that's on their FWWM set)

the final episode of season 2 is my favorite thing Lynch has ever done. Cooper's entrance into the Black Lodge as Jimmy Scott sings "Sycamore Trees" gives me chills.

as far as celebrity cameos go, I love Van Dyke Parks as the lawyer (somewhere in the middle of s2)

Yeah that's such a weird little thing (but it was almost outdone: William Burroughs was meant to have played Dougie Milford)

Morbs, you are at the part where it starts to become a really tough slog. I recommend skipping ahead if these episodes become too tedious and ridiculous.

i think he's seen it before, he's just rewatching

yes, but it's been 27 years, I've forgotten almost everything! Plus Duchovny is about to surface.

feel like Morbs is more likely to enjoy the meandering camp section of S2 than a lot of other types itt

and Michael Cera (who plays Lucy)!

― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:01 AM (three years ago)

respec knuckles

I am generally allergic to camp. Ian Buchanan's Dick is trying enough.

well, buckle up

I've seen it before! crazy eyepatch gal wrestling etc

the camp isn't for camp's sake, but the series trying to find its way again by playing with other elements & forms of old serialised US TV than the murder mystery stuff. without Invitation To Love to comment on it, that content just seeps further into the main show for a couple of months.

not SOLELY for camp's sake, imts

for lack of anything better to do last night my wife and I started in on the original series again (w the intention of watching everything up through the Return) and I had two thoughts about the pilot:
1) Dana Ashbrook (w Grace Zabriskie a close second) totally nails the generally disconcerting/unpredictable vibe of the show right out the gate. he is great in every scene, always throwing in some weird nuance/mannerism/delivery that elevates the material
2) I lol'd when Cooper closes a scene at the PD with "Diane I am holding in my hand a box of chocolate bunnies"

― Οὖτις, Friday, December 1, 2017 1:14 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The callback to the bunnies in The Return was so brilliant. Like, the way the show pauses to make you consider, does this mean something? Then quickly dismisses the idea.

― Evan R, Friday, December 1, 2017 1:39 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cooper is also strangely supercilious in some of his first scenes. He positively revels in grilling Bobby and Donna, he openly mocks them for no real reason, it comes off as almost cruel. These qualities seem to evaporate from his character as the show goes on. Or, at least, when they do pop up he more skillfully deploys them against people that deserve it.

― Οὖτις, Friday, December 1, 2017 1:44 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a bit out of character, but maybe he sensed there was something there beyond Laura's death. After all, Bobby had just recently murdered his drug connect.

― Moodles, Friday, December 1, 2017 1:51 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, Coop's mocking "You didn't love her anyway" really surprised me the last time I watched it

― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Friday, December 1, 2017 3:59 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

too bad i'm 20 episodes ahead, there could've been a Shakey-Morbius TP podcast

gimme a couple days I'll catch up

I'd subscribe to that.

lol i rewatched the pilot maybe 3 months ago, what do you think i remember?

Bobby's hair?

well, who can forget that

the deer head on the table "oh, it fell down" is so classic

or moose? w/e

I'd forgotten that Josie Packard went into the drawer knob.

also that Billy Zane showed up and looked like that, for the love of God

lmao

Which was the greater jolt, it was zane and his eyelashes right

He's shot at least as glamorously as any of the women.

https://media.giphy.com/media/t1SPXtQp6Zyvu/giphy-facebook_s.jpg