steve hoffman forums, C or D?

it's a good source for vinyl pressing info and for which reissue labels to avoid.

Does anyone ever take the bait and click on this thing called web.musicaficionado.com? Seems like it is going to be totally generic feed but sometimes it turns out to be apparently competent classic rock career overview along with some okay playlists with interesting tracks. /dontknowwheretopostthisso

22 Reasons Not To Forget Spooky Tooth

Ok, I'm sold.

B-b-but how do I keep up with such things since I let my Mojo subscription lapse?

can't help wondering what an ILM equivalent of Stereo Central would be like

At record club we pretty much talk like a chunk of ILM text used as a script. Dick jokes included.

HER "Ok, if you say so.

savage

I'm suspecting that even "the singer has a sexy voice" was a bit of a jab. Guy is obv wrong to generalize about women, partly for the reason that Turrican gives, but he mostly just seems like someone who genuinely has a hard time relating/connecting, based on that post.

yeah, Sundr4/Turrican OTM here

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/lesson-learned-dont-try-to-set-an-older-person-straight-on-music.698823/

I'm 52. I'm a music dork, like 85% of us here on this forum. Music history is important to me, and I enjoy discussing it with people.

I was shopping at Trader Joe's today. While standing around at the sample table, "Do You Want To Dance" by Bobby Freeman came on the store music player. An older woman -I'd say in her 70s- was chatting to the server and said "Do you know who this is?". Me being All-Knowing, said "Yup! Bobby Freeman!". She said no, that it was Ritchie Valens. I gently said, well he may have recorded it, but Bobby Freeman did the hit version we are hearing. She told me no- it's Ritchie Valens. It's on his album. It was a hit. I said, that might be, but we are hearing Bobby Freeman.

Then another patron got out his phone and pointed out it was actually Bobby Freeman. She refused to budge. "I was alive at the time. I was there. I remember his plane crash at the high school". I pointed out that yes it's a shame we lost 2 bright stars- Valens and Buddy Holly. She said no- he died in a crash by a high school. "I was alive at the time".
I sighed and said I definitely was not there, and I didn't know about the other plane crash. Knowingly smiled at the guy with the cell phone and went on my way.

Tuesday at 3:56 PM

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It's good for people on the spectrum to have a safe place for discussions away from you jackals.

Seriously though, they have a good reggae thread with input from people around the world who run some reissue labels.

I thought THIS was the safe place!

I still don't understand why audiophilia isn't listed in the DSM-V

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"semen stains the mountain tops"

haha

New Paul McCartney album "Egypt Station" coming September 7, 2018

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i was actually curious which remaster of soft machine third sounded best and it got to like page three or four of the steve hoffman thread before everyone in it realized the album was poorly recorded and so there's no clear or ideal master of it

it was sorta like the whole board was summarized v neatly for me there, people arrogantly throwing around a lot of knowledge presumably gleaned from very intense, detail-oriented listening, which turns out to be largely meaningless and inapplicable

yeah but they are helpful about a lot of others, it can be handy!

...it's definitely not the place to find a quick recommendation for replacement lp jackets/sleeves etc. now THAT is a totally obnoxious and unhelpful stevehoffman rabbit hole

oh i don't mean to suggest they aren't occasionally helpful, especially with finding good unremixed copies of catalogues that have been remastered and remixed (cf. genesis)

I'm still looking forward to Egypt Station!

Me too - particularly since, at this point, each McCartney album increasingly looks as if it may be his last. I didn't rate New as highly as Chaos and Creation... or Memory Almost Full, but there was enough on there for me to enjoy.

I've gotten some great stereo system advice on there fwiw.

TBF the title of that thread changed once it was clear what the name of the album would be; that thread has been running for a few years ever since the sessions were first rumored to be happening.

also, finally, the massive proliferation of beatles threads has dampened my interest in that forum. I dealt with it for years but at this point it just seems to be trodding over old ground every day

on the other hand

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i was actually curious which remaster of soft machine third sounded best and it got to like page three or four of the steve hoffman thread before everyone in it realized the album was poorly recorded and so there's no clear or ideal master of it

― princess of hell (BradNelson)

surprised it took that long, yeah the whole album is legendarily awful sounding. i don't know what the hell they did to those tapes to get them to sound so bad.

also I think the answer to that question is that the latest remaster/reissue sounds the best. not sure what they did to it but it doesn't sound good, but sounds better than the cd I used to have

Which version of The Fall’s “Dragnet” sounds the best?

also, finally, the massive proliferation of beatles threads has dampened my interest in that forum.

I'm familiar with this feeling

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all of them :)

Hoffman's response to the Peter Shelley RIP thread is jaw-droppingly cuntish and continues to sink to newer lows several pages in
detailed breakdown of the misery starts at the bottom of this page:
http://stereocentral.freeforums.net/thread/3/rip?page=37

i think that he's being misinterpreted. I looked @ that thread the morning after PS passed and at that time it appeared that the OP didn't put Buzzcocks in the thread title. so (in a dickish way) i think he was just trying to make that person clarify who died since i think there's a poet w/the same name

tbf, he is (being) a grumpy sod.

"think he was just trying to make that person clarify who died since i think there's a poet w/the same name"

Percy Shelley died in 1822

He's only just heard though.

Hoffman's posts are so awful in that thread, his is the first reply with simply "Who is he?", which is hard to find an angle where it can't be read disrespectfully. He spends the next few pages raging on about the importance of titling a thread properly, before realising that Pete Shelley was actually an important and much-loved figure, prompting him to pull out "I knew him in the 80s and tried to help him out financially" six pages in, seemingly out of nowhere

the guy has some serious ego issues

I found it useful for trivia. For example there's a thread about albums released on DAT - the only one I knew was Substance, the New Order compilation, but there are others. Such as Kylie Minogue's first album(!):
https://www.discogs.com/Kylie-Minogue-Kylie/release/8856256

DAT was a digital tape format from 1988 or so that recorded at 48khz. Never took off commercially but was popular in the broadcasting world in the years before burning a CDr was practical. Worthless now. Replaced in the studio by ADAT, which used VHS tapes, which was then replaced by hard disc recording and software instruments.

What else did I learn from Steve Hoffman's forums? Early Blue Note records have a deep groove in the label. Some records were made out of styrene, which was more easily damaged than vinyl. Early versions of the bezel had a dot over the ninety. The Japanese PlayStation had a slightly smaller controller. Columbia was slightly heavier than the later shuttles because it was originally designed to carry a liquid fuelled rocket in the cargo bay. Between Egypt and Sudan there's an 800-square-mild chunk of land called Bir Tawil that is unclaimed by either country because when the maps were drawn up the lines didn't match. I'm digressing here. Some of those things I learned elsewhere.

As with discogs.com my impression of the participants is that their musical taste is awful - it's always jazz/blues-rock, never Autechre - but ultimately it's not a music forum, it's a music technology forum, just as discogs is an eBay seller forum. After a while I felt like screaming "you're an old man; your hearing is shot; it's a physical inevitability; you've wasted a fortune on audio gear that you can't hear properly; no, you can't run faster than a young man; you're full of shit" but I doubt they would have heard me on account of the hearing loss.

Conversely IlXor *does* have a wealth of musical knowledge but as with the pre-Kinja AV Club the frustrating thing is that it's hard to write about music so discussions tend to drift off into space. I hate it when discussions move from the topic, which in this case is ejection seats, because some early jet fighters had downwards-firing ejection seats. One moment you're debating whether it's a good idea to put decorations on the *other* side of the Christmas tree - the one that faces the wall - and the next moment you're left wondering if the Austin Allegro could have been a better car with a hatchback and a subtle redesign. Battlecruisers, yay or nay?

To this day I have no idea who Steve Hoffman is, or was. I have a mental image of one of those anonymous studio people from Los Angeles who proudly lists his work with Mr Mister, Toto, and Heart; the kind of person whose website has a photo of him standing next to music legend Bill Bottrell. *The* Bill Bottrell! Oh yes, him. The musical world's equivalent of a professional grouter.

great post. the pedantic nerd in me kinda loves this stuff: hearing the small differences between this pressing and that one, getting into all the incidental technical details, etc etc

Hoffman himself seems pretty awful

they actually do have a small contingent of Autechre fans, by the way :)

Discogs has a large Autechre contingent as it started out as an electronic music database. Also as a participant there I can say that musical taste is as varied as can possibly be and it's still at least as much about nerdery and collecting as selling.

yeah, there's a lot of Autechre talk on that forum, for one thing

Hoffman (right):
http://www.stevehoffman.info/pic/cc_steve.jpg
TBF he created the best mastering that exists of Highway 61 Revisited and has done a great job on a bunch of other recordings.
but also
https://cdn.head-fi.org/a/3593451.jpg
(endorsing a bizarre piece of wood you stand in your room to make music sound better, I am not joking)

sorry, I forgot the wiggle stick image was already itt

had no idea discogs had a forum

In the second pic, which one is Hoffman?

I ignored it for years. It's mainly abkut the mechanics / politics of the database. There are hundreds, possibly thousands of specialist Group forums on Discogs although many are wastelands. Electronic Music has about 20,000 members, though.

MatthewK - the second photo needs a Hoffman (Left) caption. (haha xp)

lol

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jerks.

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I found such behavior sad for a senior citizen.