i'm sorry, joe morgan, but we need to talk about your 1975 MVP award. and also your broadcasting career
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link
(i'm mostly just taking the piss here - if there isn't a clear deserving MVP winner, which is often the case, the deciding factors often turn to recency bias, and late season games are definitely part of that. that's probably not objectively the best way to go about it but it's very understandable.)
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
Yes--when I say it should have some weight in MVP voting, I really only mean in close votes, or with extraordinary September finishes like Yaz in '67 (who obviously would have won anyway), Caminiti that one year, Manny with the Dodgers, etc. Joe Morgan gets to keep his '75 award, the '76 one too. What got me started down this road was Judge--that if were to be a close vote between him and Altuve (which I don't think it will be), I would want Judge's comparatively poor second half to be weighted into the vote. Except now Judge is scrambling that up even further.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link
in the event of a tie, it comes down to whoever is tallest
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link
the mvp playoff showdown, this sunday, two men will stand back to back on the pay per view special event of the decade, who is the tallest, aaron judge or jose altuve? tune in and find out
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 05:48 (six years ago) link
i hear one of them is particularly tall while the other is particularly short, this is gonna get interesting
― qualx, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link
you know what, i don't care that judge has some natural height advantages and has gone undefeated in every single tallest person showdown that he has ever participated in. my money is on this hotshot jose altuve kid who has never entered a height contest but nonetheless possesses great bat speed and an instinct that can't be taught. he's the underdog for sure but i think his skills translate.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link
ppl who are 'into' leverage for these awaaaahds tend to look at WPA
Trout 5.1Altuve 3.6
(Judge not in top 10)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 11:09 (six years ago) link
Eighth youngest to reach 200 HR:
Mel Ott -- 25 years and 144 daysEddie Mathews -- 25 years and 242 daysAlbert Pujols -- 25 years and 257 daysJimmie Foxx -- 25 years and 266 daysMickey Mantle -- 25 years and 279 daysAlex Rodriguez -- 25 years and 289 daysFrank Thomas -- 25 years and 360 daysTrout -- 26 years and 54 days
― clemenza, Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
(So he's actually within a calendar year of being the youngest.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-trouts-obsession-bomb-cyclone-hot-water-fiancee-182734683.html
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
haha I also used to watch a lot of the weather channel as a kid
― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
his love of meteorology has long been noted on the EW podcast
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
Mike Trout says on a conference call that he's not sure yet if he's going to the Super Bowl because he likes watching at home and watching the commercials.— Lindsey Adler (@lindseyadler) January 23, 2018
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
sounds like an American
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
what a fucking geek
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
you'll never guess who is leading the majors in WAR
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 April 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mike-trout-is-impossible/
― k3vin k., Monday, 23 April 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
if i'm not mistaken this season he's already passed 20 players in career WAR (2 of them being Votto and Kinsler.)
― omar little, Monday, 23 April 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
Oh my God pic.twitter.com/axuQLrtARv— Sung Min Kim (@sung_minkim) April 28, 2018
― k3vin k., Saturday, 28 April 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link
Since the start of the 2016 season, Mike Trout has surpassed 67 Hall of Famers in career WAR. https://t.co/Z5udhbpXkJ— Ted Berg (@OGTedBerg) April 30, 2018
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
Willie Stargell played parts of 21 seasons in the Majors, hit 475 homers, made seven All-Star teams, won the NL MVP in 1978, made the Hall of Fame on the first ballot, and was just surpassed in WAR by Mike Trout.— Ted Berg (@OGTedBerg) May 9, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
with that 3.3 WAR in 35(!) games, he's on pace to pass another twenty guys in WAR before the All-Star break. not to mention being on pace for a WAR over 14(!!)
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
mike trout: just a fad?
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
Tim: Mike Trout is 0 for his last 19. What’s going on? Is the world about to blow up?
Jeff Sullivan: I like how he’s hitless over 22 plate appearances and his OBP is .318
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link
welcome to the HOF (by rights)
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mike-trout-is-now-an-average-hall-of-famer/
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
So he will most likely pass Utley this year, and if Pujols retires this year or the next, he would stand atop the active WAR leaderboards.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
don't forget Beltre!
― omar little, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
or Cabrera and Cano...
― omar little, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
goddamn 'active player' on fangraphs that take away the DL or suspensed when i want to look at whole careers.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
He's already passed Cano on FG, Cabrera he might do it by the end of 2019. Beltre he is still relatively far from it.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
what's crazy is that despite being ~ 25 WAR behind beltre, that's like about 3 seasons of trout away, maybe even less
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
The way Pujols is playing, if he sticks around he might meet Trout halfway between Mike’s current WAR and his own.
― omar little, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
career-high four XBH tonight in the bronx
― mookieproof, Sunday, 27 May 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
jumped up into the top 200 in rWAR last night
currently hitting .313/.461/.687
― k3vin k., Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Mike Trout noted that defensive metrics didn't like him much over the last few years, decided he wanted to get better, and.. did. He got better. He's always getting better.MORE -> https://t.co/Dm6RkCAHI9— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) May 30, 2018
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
this guy
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
important to keep in mind how volatile these defensive numbers are in small samples tho
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link
Predicting 11 new posts on this thread tomorrow.
― clemenza, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:30 (five years ago) link
oh god don’t scare me
― k3vin k., Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:42 (five years ago) link
Lindbergh on the latest Improved Trout
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2018/6/4/17423738/mike-trout-defensive-improvement-best-season-ever
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 June 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
a pair of two-HR games in a row
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
If you're wondering, a full season like Trout's past three games would apparently be a 37-WAR season— Sam Miller (@SamMillerBB) June 14, 2018
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
this guy man
― k3vin k., Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
too bad the angels lost all three games
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
I’ve been watching him a lot lately. That swing of his, it’s so fast and compact and he just destroys everything.
― omar little, Thursday, 14 June 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
projections on fangraphs officially have him at 11.0 or 11.1 for the season...and those are the 50th percentile numbers
― k3vin k., Saturday, 16 June 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
Mishmash of 1000-game markers:
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23800260/how-mike-trout-stacks-mlb-greats-first-1000-games
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link
can’t find a leaderboard of WAR through 100 career games anywhere, not sure if it exists for the older guys
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
read this in a deadspin comment, haven't verified but i believe it:
the difference in fWAR between the #1 player and #2 player from 2012-present (Mike Trout and Josh Donaldson) is the same as the difference between #2 and #118 (Carlos Ruiz)
― omar little, Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link