Best Stanley Kubrick movie

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the way Kubrick keeps the audience's righteous anger at a rising boil is pretty masterful.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

Stanley Kubrick and his partner, James Harris, the man who put up money to develop the script, went ahead to Germany to prepare PATHS OF GLORY. When I arrived at the Hotel Vierjahrzeiten in Munich, I was greeted by Stanley and a completely rewritten script. He had revised it on his own, with Jim Thompson. It was a catastrophe, a cheapened version of what I thought had been a beautiful script. The dialogue was atrocious. My character said things like: "You've got a big head. You're so sure the sun rises and sets up there in your noggin you don't even bother to carry matches,"And "And you've got the only brain in the world. They made yours and threw the pattern away? The rest of us have a skullful of Cornflakes." Speeches like this went on for pages, right up to the happy ending, when the general's car arrives screeching to halt the firing squad and he changes the men's death sentence to thirty days in the guardhouse. Then my character, Colonel Dax, goes off with the bad guy he has been fighting all through the movie, General Rousseau, to have a drink, as the general puts his arm around my shoulder.

I callled Kubrick and Harris to my room. "Stanley, did you write this?"

"Yes." Kubrick always had a calm way about him. I never heard him raise his voice, never saw him get excited or reveal anything. He just looked at you though those big, wide eyes.

I said, "Stanley, why would you do that?"
He very calmly said, "To make it commercial. I want to make money."

I hit the ceiling. I called him every four-letter word I could think of. "You come to me with a script written by other people. It was based on a book. I love THAT script. I told you I didn't think this would be commercial, but I want to make it. You left it in my hands to put the picture together. I got the money, based on THAT script. Not this shit!" I threw the script across the room. "We're going back to the original script, or we're not making the picture."

Stanley never blinked an eye. We shot the original script. I think the movie is a classic, one of the most important pictures--possibly the MOST important picture--Stanley Kubrick has ever made.

from Morbs' link

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

Interesting tidbit about a director who has written or co-written, with an exception, every film he's made:

Stanley is not a writer. He has always functioned better if he got a good writer and worked with him on a concept.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

makes sense if you think of Jim Thompson, Terry Southern, Arthur Clarke, Frederic Raphael, but afaik SK did the adap of Lyndon himself.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

apparently he also tossed the Nabokov script in the ashcan; it was very long and unfilmable.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I knew that. For BL and ACO (also a solo credit) I think I read that he followed the Huston method for The Maltese Falcon: ask a secretary to re-type the novel in script format, then he'd edit it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

we should do this again. i imagine Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut would place much higher now

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 07:34 (six years ago) link

Yeah i was surprised how low EWS (my number 1) was. Looking forward to watching it again over the season; soooo Christmass-y.

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Barry Lyndon on TV klaxon (BBC4, Sunday at 9pm)

— Hardcore for Nerds (@HC4N) April 27, 2019

j., Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

Can't believe I am finally going to watch this, unless the snooker is amazing

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

On a schoolnight?

milkshake chuk (wins), Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

knock that fucking billiards on't head - it's an alltime great movie!

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

It's how I roll.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

Xp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah I know...I've missed screening after screening of this. But ya know Trump and Ding could be serving up a classic tonight.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

Filmworker is on Film4 at 00:30 tonight. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03174/barryl_3174963c.jpg
so many good performances in BL but Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link

Probably one of the most well-designed and photographed of films. The one-track coldness that Kubrick deals in really works to temper down the iffy (twee) source material.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

it is fucking gorgeous.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

have to see Barry Lyndon again, I think I will really appreciate it, but also don't think it will replace 2001 as my personal favorite film of all time

Dan S, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

Gotta say it's the first one of his I've seen where I get what ppl are on about wrt Kubrick.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

*Looks at wiki* How much Hammer horror have you seen?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link

Magee only appeared in one Hammer film, the fairly obscure Demons of the Mind. He's in a fair few horror movies from Hammer's UK rival Amicus, tho.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link

Yes, he did a lot of crap but he's a magnetic presence. Not exactly what you'd call a naturalistic actor, lol.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, I love Hammer, Amicus, Tigon and all that guff.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link

Clockwork Orange was showing at my local cinema and I missed out on seeing it. Been very long since I originally saw it, and I've never seen it at the cinema.

I love Barry Lyndon.

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link

I had Patrick Magee and Henry McGee confused in my mind for a minute there. Now that was a wild ride.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

Benny Hill or Sam Beckett, both bring the LOLs, for sure.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

up on iplayer (along with paths of glory and 2001)

devvvine, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

One of the things I like about Magee is that he is giving exactly the same kind of performance in a Kubrick film as he is in a Freddie Francis film or vice/versa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OarsvZbhds&list=PL2AA217275C6F6CF0&index=7

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Yeah thanks that was good.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

This, from an interview with Vitali about Kubrick's soundtracks. His films through the 70s were mixed for the narrow frequency range of Academy Mono. There was an art to it. Optimizing them for digital adds lows and highs that were never in the original. It's akin to colorizing. pic.twitter.com/aemS2JmyXF

— Eric Dienstfrey (@SignalsToNoises) June 8, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Surprised Barry Lyndon doesn't have its own thread.

Mrs. America used some of BL's score tonight (prominently) during an awkward first meeting between Phyllis Schlafly and Jill Ruckelshaus (Republican, but very pro-ERA). Not sure what the meaning of that was (beyond the obvious, that it's 1976).

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Sorry for spamming but can’t figure out which thread this is best on: http://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:22 (seven months ago) link

This is overdue for a repoll:

Stanley Kubrick RE-poll

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:47 (seven months ago) link

Great article James!

“If the Labourites ever get in,” he vowed, “I’ll leave the country.” He feared being ruined by tax-the-rich policies – though he never did quit Britain, doubtless because New Labour, finally elected in 1997, no longer bore much resemblance to a socialist party.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:15 (seven months ago) link

It's funny because Emilio's memoir goes to great pains to dispel the myth of SK as the eccentric recluse (but just as much a demanding pain in the ass) maybe the truth of it is somewhere in the middle.

MaresNest, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:34 (seven months ago) link

Seems like there is a documentary as well, S Is for Stanley.

Ansible Dave’s Killer Breadboard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 August 2023 18:41 (seven months ago) link


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