IT'S BETTER THAN DRINKIN' ALONE: The Official ILM Track-by-Track BILLY JOEL Listening Thread

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I think I started from something like "even if you're ever esteem" or god knows what string of syllables and words. "Beau Brummel" was "forerunner" or "full runner" iirc.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 24 September 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

I mean Billy was right too in a lot of ways, esp. because I'm gonna guess the bands that were probably most up his alley were (given their prominence in NYC & general pop instincts) Ramones and Blondie, both who were 50s and girl group influenced, so it was actually still rock n roll to them (and me and Billy)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 24 September 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

Yes, it is weird that he takes a swig of beer.

pplains, Sunday, 24 September 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

I am a major New Wave fanboi but even I am aware that New Wave was largely just rock with sillier haircuts.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link

"Beau Brummel" was "forerunner" or "full runner" iirc.

Yes!

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link

"bold runner" is sounding right to me suddenly...

gotta say as far as this kind of thing goes, billy's assessment of the musical situation rings much truer and more optimistic than huey lewis's desperate "the heart of rock and roll is still beatin'!"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

ugggh fuck that song forever...it’s just a catalogue of cheap pops to get applause from every fkn city in the country

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

Billy the Peacemaker, bridging Sha Na Na and The Knack.

Eazy, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

sha na nack-ack-ack

mark s, Monday, 25 September 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link

Software be like pic.twitter.com/LH5StC6NCn

— Biappi (@Biappi) September 25, 2017

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 September 2017 10:03 (six years ago) link

I feel like some 90s band did a thing where they encouraged everybody in the audience to bring a boom box with their record in it, and all press play at about the same time. Flaming Lips?

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link

The Lips did release the 4cd Zaireeka, where all cdss were meant to be played simultaneously.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 September 2017 10:39 (six years ago) link

I am not sure whether or not I want to know what 12 Billy Joel songs played simultaneously sounds like.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

Well TOO BAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcvVPuJVKcs

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

IT'S BETTER THAN ONE HIT ALONE

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 25 September 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

Okay wow, thanks Phil. Strangely hypnotic. Mostly major-key/mid-tempo mush for a while - "Honesty" surprisingly prominent.

As one might expect, after four minutes you can hear more specificity. Oh, there's "Captain Jack." For a while it seems like it's just "New York State of Mind" and "Pyanno Man" mashed together, but "Captain Jack" isn't nearly over yet.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

This weird motif of Billy Joel releases getting screwed up by random engineers is slightly amusing.

pplains, Monday, 25 September 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

sounds like a sgt. pepper/magical mystery tour outtake.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhIx7EaTido

All For Leyna, an attempt to capture the intensities and agonies of teenage love, closes the hit-packed first side of Glass Houses. In a couple of overseas markets, it was the first single off the record, making it to #40 in the UK and #16 in Spain. The video features a peek at Billy's synth rig, and some truly alarming stare-down work.

https://img.discogs.com/SaANVGEpmAYbiX1pzwJ6jdBq8Sw=/fit-in/378x378/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4388222-1365151106-4451.jpeg.jpg

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

^^ Ooh - I love the idea of leather-jacket Billy Joel throwing a rock at Piano Man.

Eazy, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

Oberheim. That's it.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

this inspired me to make my first gif #alwayslearning

https://media.giphy.com/media/6SyzdGgKcpHtm/giphy.gif

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

I think this was the first song I ever heard where the music stopped when the singer said "stop."

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

that part would make a gif almost as great as ums's

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

hahahaha ums

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

this was the first song I ever heard where the music stopped when the singer said "stop."

HMMM I SMELL A LIST THREAD, LADS

I think for me it was James Taylor's version of "How Sweet it Is."

There is also a Cure remix - I think it is Antidote Megamix - during "A Forest," when the lyric goes "Suddenly I stop" and Robert's guitar cuts out. We thought that was A+ clever, back in the day.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

Songs that actually, like, stop when the singer says 'stop.'

Eazy, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

thank u for that gif ums

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

Shoulda learned by now that every "that should be a thread" thread has already been made. My bad, carry on.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

The unquestionable highlight of this song is dramatic way he hits the word ROCKS in the second verse's laboured beach metaphor.

the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Monday, 25 September 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

LUUUUVVVVVVVVV all for leyna. the apex of bubblegum billy. that indelible chorus. the teen desperation in his voice. but mostly that electric piano. five songs into the album and this is the first full-on piano song, and it sounds like nothing he's done before. it sounds like a dude in red leather pants and a skinny tie lost in the first blush of lust, obsession and music, who has an electric piano in his bedroom and wouldn't know hoaw to play a billy joel arpeggio if you spotted him the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th. he just knows catchy. he also, to be fair, may know toto's "hold the line," jefferson starship's "jane," aldo nova's "fantasy" and a few other bang-on-the-electric-piano rock classics of the era, as well as several buggles songs as noted by doctor c above. (or maybe not "fantasy," since that won't come out for two more years.) everyone in the band, guitar, drums, everybody, steps on the huge piece of bubblegum billy has left for them and revels in the stickiness.

also: as obsessed-boys-who-blame-everything-on-the-girl songs go, i appreciate that billy spends his days sitting in his room bugging his dad instead of bugging/stalking the girl. maybe he will one day realize he is in fact wasting his time waiting for leyna.

also also: it ends with a very non-bubblegummy 50-ish seconds of padding.

also also also: i was unaware there were people named leyna before i heard this song.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

Also in the near-simultaneous-discovery category: this week, one thing I'm really hearing in this album (maybe moreso on a couple of side B tracks) is the synthesis of 70s pop-rock and new wave that Hall & Oates arrived at on Voices, recorded in and released right around the same time as Glass Houses. Obviously theirs has more soul in the mix, but I can kinda hear each act comfortably covering most of the tracks on the other's album.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

Just noticed how SHOCK, ROCKS and STOP all appear in the same place and have the same vowel sound.

For me, it's all the suicidal pangs between the lines that makes this song a little "scary" for me. Electrocution. Drowning. Living it all/Giving it all. Who knows what the hell he's doing in that dark bedroom of his.

Well, and this. This little movement also makes it scary.

https://gifs.com/embed/billy-joel-all-for-leyna-qjwNjy

pplains, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

https://j.gifs.com/qjwNjy.gif

pplains, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

http://gph.is/2fKANrZ

my own attempt

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link

https://media.giphy.com/media/12PXsY7bxciG08/giphy.gif

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

oh wow this song rules. what a weird hooky little thing

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 25 September 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

quality gifs is one thing this thread def has over the Eagles listening thread

Οὖτις, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

That keys-humping GIF will haunt my nightmares. I'm giving it all for Leyna, up to and including wedging my junk into middle C on this Yamaha stage piano.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

Which of you was it who busted out a really perfect gif of Liberty polishing a headlight from the Uptown Girl video? I've forgotten everything about the context but I remember it was scarily perfect.

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 19:55 (six years ago) link

I'm really busy today and tomorrow and my greatest fear in life is missing the part where we talk about "Close to the Borderline"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 September 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

Days away! Worry not!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

Which of you was it who busted out a really perfect gif of Liberty polishing a headlight from the Uptown Girl video?

going into garages for exotic massages, if billy is to be trusted on this one

― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, August 9, 2017 7:03 PM

well that's a step up from sitting at home and masturbating, if you ask me.

― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:36 PM

y not both

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:45 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Wawj5V5.gif

― pplains, Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:52 PM

August 9 seems like more than half a mile away now.

pplains, Monday, 25 September 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

pplains = hero

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 September 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

More of a shopping center hero, but thank you.

pplains, Monday, 25 September 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Yeah we've been at this for more than two months now! Hard to believe. Thanks muchly to all the regulars and joiners, and to those who've even taken the time to post catch-up entries. This thread is now basically the best Billy Joel discussion on the Internet! Hopefully it's contributing something of value to our wider ILM discourse going forward...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 September 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

Great song, probably the best new find for me of this whole thread so far. It has a great nervy energy to it and the synth parts fit well too

Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

Yeah, this is a really solid track. I like the creepy intensity of the sound, and how the crush prompted by this one-time-thing starts bleeding over into wider adolescent paranoia and nobody-understands-ism. Maybe not top tier Joel for me because it's doesn't have as much of the "singable" quality that means a lot to me in his stuff. The vocal has a cool rhythm to it that really sells the screwed-too-tight brain of the character, but it's not all that melodic. BLAH, blah da de BLAH, blah blah BLAH. That's okay though, stepping sideways genre-wise is letting him make songs that play to slightly different strengths.

Meanwhile, just today, I started hearing the title line as "awful anal." Which is really stupid, but ironically the kind of thing that might actually get our teenage protagonist to loosen up with an awkward laugh.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

For me, the stompy feel and jerky melody of "All for Leyna" prefigures "Allentown."

You can even mash them together. Try it!

"We / laid on the beach / iron and coal / chromium steel."

"She / stood on the tracks / if we worked hard / if we behaved."

"She / gave me a night / filling out forms / standing in line."

stop the mandolinsanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link


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