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Another year in rainbow stripes for Sagan.

naus, Sunday, 24 September 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

didn't even seem to be in that great of shape to win this.

Luckily Bergen looked absolutely amazing. At least, until the tv cameras crashed with 2-3 km to go.

Ludo, Sunday, 24 September 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

Bergen looked the part indeed! The crashing cameras were p hilarious tbh. Waiting till the finish cam picked them up and the commentators despairing was oddly... soothing?

Couldn't see enough of todays race due to work. Dumoulin had a blast this week with two titles. October 7th, Lombardia, is in my planner in capitals.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 24 September 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

"My asthma got worse at the Vuelta so I followed the team doctor’s advice to increase my salbutamol dosage."

sure I'm being naive here but if his asthma was deteriorating wouldn't responsible medical advice be to pull out of the race?

But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 12:06 (six years ago) link

In any case I've already heard several doctors declare that it's simply impossible to get this much salbutamol in using an inhaler.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

“We’re banning you due to terminally boring races by you and your team. Oh and the drugs.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Bring on La Vuelta!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

british grand slam ! genuinely extraordinary

||||||||, Saturday, 15 September 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

The London races this weekend were kinda crazy with both having notable crashes near the end. Viviani pulled it out with a great attack on the men's side (and then today announces for Cofidis which is kinda hilarious given how his team did the work for him yesterday).

But on a much sadder note:

https://deadspin.com/pro-cyclist-bjorg-lambrecht-dies-after-crash-during-rac-1836977471

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 August 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Enjoying La Vuelta so far -- nothing crazy dramatic, just some good solid rides.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 August 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Roglic rode all competition to shit today, as expected. Stoked for the rest of this. Between the insane stage of last Sunday (w/ footage missing, piecing together how Roglic fell on the dirt road through twitter videos) and all that has happened already, it's like this Vuelta has already been going on for weeks. Love it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

Y así fue la caída de Roglic. Entró en el camino de barro junto con @alejanvalverde@NairoQuinCo y de repente se le fue la rueda. Día complicado ayer en Andorra. ¿Quién dijo que esto fuera fácil? #roglic #ciclismo #lavuelta #vueltaciclistaespaña #camaraman #motocamara #LaVuelta19 pic.twitter.com/6Yynua9QhE

— Pack del Toro (@Packdeltoro) September 2, 2019

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dirt section 2 days ago was so grimy with the hail. enjoying seeing kuss working. (aussie commentary two days ago said kuss went to uni in WA lol- fighting words!)

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

Glad I was able to catch up on all stages today (holiday weekend meant guests from out of town). Roll on the rest...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

kuss was given a perfect tee-up, but then at least struck it so clean. beautiful job.

Hunt3r, Sunday, 8 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Kuss's enthusiasm was heartfelt/heartwarming etc.

as far as GC contenders go, the Vuelta isn't really delivering. I thought Superman Lopez would've been in better shape. I assume Valverde will not win time on Roglic in the third week.

Ludo, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

it's like, Pogacar is too young, Valverde is too old. Quintana has spent too much energy on Tour de France and inner team struggles. So we're left with M.Lo to do it (and he's got he team to back it up).

Ludo, Sunday, 8 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

Loved Kuss' win. Been enjoying this Vuelta btw, w/ Pogacar, Gilbert's earlier win, and so many youngsters having a go. Love the bandits of Euskadi Murias and Burgos, too, giving this Vuelta a needed rosy glow on the cheeks.

Ludo otm, but Lopez still won't deliver. Think it's clear Roglic will breeze to the title (bad luck not withstanding). Valverde ever so impressive but not as good as Roglic. Plus Jumbo have the team to deliver.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 September 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link

Brilliant stuff from Pogacar. Him and Roglic surely buddies 4 life now.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Rumors Roglic may wanna get out of Jumbo (to Emirates)?In light of Dumoulin cannot say I blame him for wanting clear leadership role, but perhaps Pogacar on board UAE would be its own issue sooner than he may think.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

remco evenepoel is a weapon

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

A little late but yeah, loved Kuss's win as well, fun interview just after too. Right kind of enthusiasm and not an easy stage! Yesterday's stage good as well, kinda glad for the break today just to catch up on things.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Rumors Roglic may wanna get out of Jumbo (to Emirates)?In light of Dumoulin cannot say I blame him for wanting clear leadership role, but perhaps Pogacar on board UAE would be its own issue sooner than he may think.

― Hunt3r, Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:17 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Erm, Roglic signed a new contract today, staying at Jumbo till 2023 :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

remco evenepoel is a weapon

― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:21 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You sure you don't mean Van der Poel?

What a finish! Congratulations @mathieuvdpoel!#OVOToBpic.twitter.com/pyi4MgvSs3

— Tour of Britain 🇬🇧 (@TourofBritain) September 10, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

vdp is a weapon also but remco is something else

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

jesus @ that sprint

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

he shoulda raced mtb worlds, he had enough time to recover for road worlds.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 03:11 (four years ago) link

For some reason there's a breakaway w/ Quintana, Kelderman and Pernsteiner, and the peloton can't close the gap, which is already 3min.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

4.30 now. And we can't even watch it...

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link

mental stage - 31mph average speed. gilbert said he was spinning at 110RPM (!) on his 54x11 (!!)

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

crowd chanting “¡HI-GUI-TA!” at podium was pretty great.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

Yeah, he held on really great. I kinda feel for Pogacar, his first Vuelta's just a couple of days too long for him, but he's been great.

Again confirmed today Quintana cannae hack it uphill right now. Which retroactively renders yesterdays "coup" pretty much useless. I expect Lopez to knock him off third on Saturday.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Roglic caught in a crash, Movistar puts its foot on the gas. QuickStep and Astana giving Valverde a right bollocking.

🇪🇸 #LaVuelta19

After a crash in the peloton, which involved race leader Primoz Roglic (TJV), Movistar have now been removed from every other teams Christmas gift list... 🤷🏼‍♂️ Some order being restored now though, as the break with @ben_oconnor95 has 1’50”.

— Team Dimension Data (@TeamDiData) September 13, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

Hell of a run-in by Cavagna there!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

VAI POGACAR

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

weapon

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

Love that guy

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 14 September 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

Difficult circumstances in🌈@Yorkshire2019 Road World Championships Men U23 Individual Time Trial. This is the European Champion 🇩🇰@JohanPrice in 🌧️#Yorkshire2019 (📺@Eurosport_UK)pic.twitter.com/D3YJssrnPZ

— World Cycling Stats (@wcsbike) September 24, 2019

"Difficult conditions" you say

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

looks like my commute to work this morning tbh

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link

I couldnt view that here but im betting its like-

Think you're having a bad day? #Yorkshire2019 pic.twitter.com/g1jDOXF37w

— Elisabeth Anderson (@velobetty) September 24, 2019

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

lol all the comments i presume from brits going: “der schoolboy amateur! learn to steer a puddle!! loser.”

me, a yank: “whoa, do britishes have no drainage sewer infrastracture at _all_?? that’s fucking barbaric! lol savages. I guess it’s to put out all the stovetop chips fires they have.”

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link

Not a great week to have the World's in Yorkshire. It's been pissing down all week and is going to piss down for the rest of the week too.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 07:04 (four years ago) link

The above levels rain are obv ridiculous, but I'd actually welcome rain on Sunday. The course + rain has all the ingredients to make it feel like a classic rainy Flanders classic. I'm pretty stoked for it.

For spectators it's obv a different matter. Are you in the vicinity and plan to have a look NBS?

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link

No, I live in London so Yorkshire's a bit of a trek. Some of my clubmates were talking about going up there, though.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

pro tour riders must hate riding in britain

stoffle (||||||||), Sunday, 29 September 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

heavy roads, potholes everywhere, terrible weather... at least the crowds are good

stoffle (||||||||), Sunday, 29 September 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link

Le Grand Depart in the 2014 TDF must have fooled them into thinking that conditions are generally warm, dry and sunny.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 29 September 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

not convinced by this move by VDP - still a lot of weapons in the peloton behind him

stoffle (||||||||), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

take that back

stoffle (||||||||), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

spoke too soon again.... ffffffff

stoffle (||||||||), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

but i don’t know how much the vo2 max can be argued to be a definitive permanent defin stmt. it has a ceiling for everyone, but it does move. with ppl built to cheat, when will you know you’ve got the correct ceiling measurement? also not all races are determined by that energy system. better races (imo) are determined not only by your w/kg at threshhold, but v v often by your super-threshold power layed down in just such a situation to make a gap and get away enough to stay away with other better performers, or if you can hold that superthreshhold power long enough to win with it (these “w’” efforts are ot usually long, they can last 8-10 mins, not much more). And in a long day, lots of difference comes out of how your body can recover during long hard days. Or how good your teammates are at hiding you until it’s time to make those super efforts, of either kind (roughly called aerobic and anaerobic). whether you’re eating enough. whether, even if youre eating, youre digesting it. whether youre digesting. even whether youre drinking. whether you are naturally just low and fast in position. there’s a shitton of smaller variables that cumulatively make big differences.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 March 2024 14:35 (three weeks ago) link

i mean there are things that stand out as flags. relatively sudden big improvements obv. ppl going from excellence at anaerobic super performance to being aerobic w/kg supermen (like armstrong bw 97 and 99– and there were many of these in the late 90s obv). or low enders who suddenly just became gods, like froome.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 March 2024 14:41 (three weeks ago) link

my main takeaway for lemond—as talented and as sorta regular decent person as I think he is— is that his vo2max numbers were like all-time great for any sport, like 95ml/kg/min. scandi xc level shit (who btw were also like patients zero for aerobic doping technique—but i’m implying that for lemond at all).

so maybe everything looks like a nail to lemond, named vo2max. but i dunno, srsly all those riders move so much more oxygen that normies like me, and i just watch and clap.

Lemond I like mostly but he also seems pretty obv very emotionally immature. Not fragile, he’s tough and v resilient,but perhaps best termed “whiny.” actually the first time i met him in the early 90s (i don’t know him obv), i turned around so he could sign the back of my team jersey in sharpie. then he was nice enough to talk to me a couple mins. near to the end he made a joke like “well, i’m just a retired wash-out now, they should just put us down, like horses.” it was said humorously and was appropriate and funny, but i walked away thinking “he really does seem a little shook.”

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 March 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link

NOT IMPLYING lol

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 March 2024 15:05 (three weeks ago) link

it was not a jersey of his team, it was a long sleeve of my team, i was out riding and stopped at a shop and there he was. I wish i’d kept that jersey in good shape— but i rode and warshed it to rags. ☹️

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 March 2024 15:08 (three weeks ago) link


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