2017 Cleveland Indians

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'78 yanks went 52-21 to force a one-game playoff

tribe needs to go 4 and 6 the rest of the way to match that, which seems pretty doable

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

so, really 53-21 :)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

best adjusted team ERAs of integration era pic.twitter.com/QgdywjJGrX

— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) September 20, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

Over the Indians' past 28 games, Francisco Lindor has hit .352/.431/.750 with 11 HR, 6 2B, 2 3B, 25 R, 27 RBI and more BB (14) than K (11).

— Jordan Bastian (@MLBastian) September 21, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Show Hey O'Tawny
Does mainstream media underrate the Indians pitching staff? Fangraphs is the only place I’ve seen call them the best pitching staff of all time, even though most of the WAR says so

Jeff Sullivan

I think, in general, people don't have a great mental grasp of how pitching has evolved. When you think about the best staffs ever, you tend to focus on the starting rotations. The other thing about the Indians is they're so deep they *never* give the ball to a bad pitcher

For the sake of argument, let's compare the Indians to the Braves from 1993 - 1999
That is, combining all those years

Braves starters had an ERA- of 77. The Indians starters have an ERA- of 79
But Braves relievers had an ERA- of 87. Indians relievers have an ERA- of 65
Maybe the Braves had more Hall-of-Famers. The Indians are better from top to bottom, because every pitcher on the staff counts

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 September 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/29/sports/baseball/cleveland-indians-chief-wahoo-logo.html

chief wahoo is going away! (in 2019) (and only from players uniforms, not from merch sold in the stadium) (and the team is still called the indians)

na (NA), Monday, 29 January 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link

not good enough, obv

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

sounds like manfred has the right idea, though

But over the past year the commissioner of baseball, Rob Manfred, has pressured Paul Dolan, Cleveland’s chairman and chief executive, to make a change.

Citing a goal of diversity and inclusion, Manfred said in a statement provided to The New York Times that the Indians organization “ultimately agreed with my position that the logo is no longer appropriate for on-field use in Major League Baseball, and I appreciate Mr. Dolan’s acknowledgment that removing it from the on-field uniform by the start of the 2019 season is the right course.”

not good enough, but better than nothing, or outright hostility (see the washington catheads)

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

not good enough obv but i'm relieved that they are finally doing something

marcos, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

it will take decades if not more though for wahoo to disappear from cleveland entirely. i'm convinced there will still be some dive bar in parma, oh in 2118 that will keep its giant wahoo light-up sign above the bar

marcos, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

them still being able to make money off of the logo is pretty gross

na (NA), Monday, 29 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

yea

marcos, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

Now we get to be met with the spectacle of idiots protesting a baseball team because it isn't sufficiently racist anymore.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Monday, 29 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

Finally: The Indians Are Replacing Their Racist Mascot Chief Wahoo With A White Woman Wearing A Native American Halloween Costume https://t.co/HIzE3nkI50 pic.twitter.com/4WRfTDBbqQ

— ClickHole (@ClickHole) January 31, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

you wonder how some promo ppl function daily

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/04/16/mlb-pulls-chief-wahoo-jackie-robinson-caps/

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

Am I doing this right. pic.twitter.com/yAfvncQJx8

— Sung Min Kim (@sung_minkim) April 19, 2018

Andy K, Friday, 20 April 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

BE SCARED, RED SOX AND YANKS FANS

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

Also, that play that just got overturned was some bullshit.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 01:01 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Encarnacion got this 30th home run for a seventh consecutive season the other night. Don't know how many times seven has been reached, but Wikipedia has a list of eight consecutive seasons and that's pretty rare: 18 players, most from the PED era. Most are either in the HOF or would be absent PEDs; the only clear non-HOF'er is Teixeira, Delgado (in that PEDs have nothing to do with him not being in--I'd call him borderline, not clearly not qualified), and (arguably) Sosa.

Unless he has some unforeseen Ortiz-like finish he's about to spring on us, Edwin will not be going into the HOF. (I bet there are some relatively ordinary names who also did it seven times...I'm not trying to diminish what he's done, and I remain a big fan.)

clemenza, Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

You what's pretty amazing? Encarnacion has stolen 61 career bases in 74 attempts, an 82% success rate. So he's a better base stealer than Rickey Henderson (81%), though not as good as Tim Raines (85%). I have to reconsider his HOF case.

clemenza, Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link

Just as he was when he was traded from Cleveland to Boston, Victor Martinez was very emotional after the Indians honored him as he enters retirement. #Indians pic.twitter.com/hPUmvybmmZ

— Hayden Grove (@H_Grove) September 15, 2018

Andy K, Saturday, 15 September 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

Kipnis' 1000th hit:

Getting your 1,000th career hit? Awesome.
Doing it on a walk-off grand slam? Even better.
(via @SportsTimeOhio)pic.twitter.com/yWRska8hUl

— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) September 20, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 September 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link

If you'd asked me, I would have said "That's been done before" (and probably would have proceeded to name one of the '70s Mets teams).

http://www.mlb.com/news/indians-1st-club-with-4-starters-with-200-ks/c-295641546

clemenza, Sunday, 23 September 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link


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