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i mention this because montreal is the best and more people should move here! it's so much cheaper than toronto or vancouver. yes, it's hard to scale the corporate ladder - but there are still lots of opportunities, especially if you put in effort.

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

there are jobs - keep your eye on job boards for McGill and Concordia, Reader's Digest, Bookmark, etc, or i guess for big pharma or something - but this is definitely not a great place to be a unilingual professional seeking work at a large company/org

Maybe, but it's more complicated than that. In a certain segment of large companies (tech, financial, services) there are a significant number of unilingual anglophones above a certain seniority threshold. I've met many unilingual anglophone senior manager and corporate executive types, some are the flown-in-from-Toronto variety, some are the married-a-local variety, and some are the I'm-still-here variety (chiefly older West Island types). There are also significant numbers of unilingual West Island types in sales (often Montreal companies sell mainly into the US, so French is a non-issue for their sales reps) as well as various technical, back-office, and admin/clerical jobs. But yeah, there's a big chunk of middle-earners for whom bilingualism is absolutely necessary (this goes for native French-speakers as well).

In the tech sector the percentage of unilingual anglophones is significantly higher at all levels. Anyone who is new to Montreal and doesn't speak French would do well to try to get a job at a tech company. (If you have tech skills, all the better, if you don't you can still aim for sales, customer service, or various administrative roles). Some companies will have an ostensible glass ceiling as the language of management is French, but there's not much you can do about that.

Of course now that I think about it "unilingual anglophone" is a bit of a red herring in this context since the majority of workers at Montreal companies I'm familiar with who speak English and not French tend to also speak one or two other languages... but only have minimal French fluency. I've met tons of Concordia graduates who stayed on and other recently immigrated folks who speak Arabic, Mandarin, Spanish, Punjabi, Romanian, Ukrainian, or Korean... and in many cases several languages. Mexican, Chilean, and Colombian colleagues have tended to take to French quite easily, as have the Romanians (where I believe Romania still has Francophonie status and French is a primary language of instruction), but not everybody finds it so easy or has the time to make it a priority. In the end I've been in many meetings where functional, okay-ish English is the basic standard everyone tries to meet, almost nobody speaks French, and you're more likely to hear colleagues have a side conversation in some third language than either of the so-called "Canadian" languages.

I'm sure it can be discouraging to hunt for a job and I've seen several "unilingual anglophones" (in this context I think we just say it means "people from elsewhere in Canada") stagnate in Montreal, burning themselves out on low-paying jobs beneath their ability simply because they feared another job hunt. But it's not impossible by any stretch of the imagination. Once you got a line on your CV that says you've worked at a Montreal company, your second job search gets easier. And chances are you'll have made some friends. Montreal is tremendously informal in the sense that small to medium companies often hire their friends instead of going through a formal process (although later on, this tends to have an altogether different effect on the workplace, more on which another time).

It's the West Islanders who don't speak French that give me the creeps.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

PS, my advice is to forget applying at the English universities. They are the most "closed" shops in the city.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Cool

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSGL8YoW4AEaZT5.jpg

flopson, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link

Extreme Cold Warning for Quebec
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flopson, Thursday, 28 December 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

It ain't good.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 28 December 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

On the origins and consequences of the destruction of architecture and urbanism, the suburban sprawl in Montreal:

https://watch.cbc.ca/media/media/absolutely-canadian/cities-held-hostage/38e815a-00ce3ab4178

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

Unavailable to those outside Canada

only one solution. I've gotta go to Canada to watch it!

mh, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

It’s super interesting + depressing. Definitely worth coming to Montreal to watch in a Mutek-hangover haze in yr plateau airbnb as the gentrification implodes around you.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 3 August 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

Please don't come to Montreal. If you do, stay in a properly zoned hotel downtown. Please don't come to my local and ask for sangria by the glass or ask "do you have any sour beers." Don't go to Mutek, don't come near me, stay the fuck away from the Jean-Talon market or I'll fucking hit you.

fields of salmon, Friday, 10 August 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link

someone hasn't been reading any of my posts ever

I was the one who introduced sour beers to montreal

mh, Friday, 10 August 2018 00:44 (five years ago) link

You fucking parasite, you must leave

fields of salmon, Friday, 10 August 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

i'm in des moines

you can sleep peacefully for now, although my recent decision to concentrate on a different destination... well, spite is a motivator, salmon person

mh, Friday, 10 August 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link

Fields of salmon speaks for himself/herself.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

yeah heck that dude you can stay in my roommates room he's on vacation and hasn't paid me rent in 3 months

challops trap house (Will M.), Friday, 10 August 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

I'll be visiting for Labor Day weekend!!! It's been way too long.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

I thought about going for the aforementioned festival again but opted against it because, idk, I just need some unstructured time to do absolutely nothing and loaf away from town. How long's your roommate on vacay, Will? :)

mh, Friday, 10 August 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

Unstructured time to do absolutely nothing should be guaranteed by society.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

Please don't come to Montreal. If you do, stay in a properly zoned hotel downtown. Please don't come to my local and ask for sangria by the glass or ask "do you have any sour beers." Don't go to Mutek, don't come near me, stay the fuck away from the Jean-Talon market or I'll fucking hit you.

― fields of salmon, Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh

gbx, Saturday, 11 August 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

spent almost 2 months in mtl this summer and had the time of my life. best city i've ever been to or lived in hands down

flopson, Saturday, 11 August 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

i still like vancouver but i would give anything to move back, except for dropping out of my program lol

flopson, Saturday, 11 August 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

You are always welcome back!

Especially right before the elections to make sure nationalist identitarian can’t win!

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 11 August 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

thanks. i'll do my best to return :)

flopson, Saturday, 11 August 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

I thought about going for the aforementioned festival again but opted against it because, idk, I just need some unstructured time to do absolutely nothing and loaf away from town. How long's your roommate on vacay, Will? :)

― mh, Friday, August 10, 2018 3:45 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i think until the end of august? idk he's been cagey about it (this is the thread where i complain about my roomie now apparently lol, v montreal)

challops trap house (Will M.), Monday, 13 August 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Please continue to avoid Montreal during peak times. For booking your visits, consider November, a month in which your visit will be considered respectful, rather than simply being another piece of clutter in a world already dying because of plastic that can't break down in the ocean. Don't like dolphins? Got it.

fields of salmon, Saturday, 25 August 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link

Someone other than fields of salmon : what's the earliest in the year I can go to Montreal and it be pleasant out? Wikipedia seems to suggest June

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 25 August 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

The end of May is usually quite pleasant, though two years ago it snowed on May 6 so June makes sense as an absolutely safe bet.

rob, Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link

yeah june is the safe bet

sean gramophone, Saturday, 25 August 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

Thank you

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:07 (five years ago) link

Have you tried a sour beer? Have you trieeeed a soooooour beeeer? You should look for them. They're apparently really critical recently, so you should ask people who are working to earn university degrees that you already have or are earning about sour beers! Good luck!

fields of salmon, Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

Do you have any sour beers

fields of salmon, Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:40 (five years ago) link

I'm more a natural wine guy

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 1 September 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Where to stay in Montreal if I probably want to be in mile end plateau little italy, dont really want to airbnb, dont have high standards?

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link

https://casadelpopolo.com/pensione-popolo/
https://hotelcastleruins.com/
there's also an apartment owned by/above the restaurant La Khaima (on airbnb i think) that seems ok

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

also heard good things about Chez Maggie Maguire, a b and b that doesn't have a website (though i wonder if it's closed?)

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:50 (five years ago) link

there’s a p nice auberge on carré st louis

flopson, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

just get an airbnb in milend tho

flopson, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

Thanks for the suggestions

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 03:34 (five years ago) link

i believe there are a few (earth, not air) bnbs on st hubert btwn maisonneuve and ontario, which are supposed to be quite nice, it's south of plateau and mile end and etc, but also a short walk to the metro

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link

I will be monitoring all of your IP addresses. If any of you use keywords that indicate you might come north of the tracks I will dispatch a bunch of angry bees and wasps I have been hiding in a tent-like structure in my back garden.

fields of salmon, Sunday, 14 April 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

you want people to avoid coming to your city with all of the fervor of someone who has lived here for approximately 4 years. it is impressive

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boot Edge Edge" (Will M.), Monday, 15 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link

can't believe people are now building their own artisan-quality tent-like structures instead of just buying tents

mh, Monday, 15 April 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

googling "north of the tracks" "montreal", looking for airbnbs in villeray

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

thinking about sour beers

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 15 April 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link

the best part is that fields of salmon posts like an angry old man and we’re youth wandering around doing youthful distasteful things and he’s like a year older than me at most

mh, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link

Fields, which part of Montreal you from?

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:38 (five years ago) link

I have never heard anyone refering to any place as ‘north of the train tracks’ in my 20 years here. Which train tracks? There are 3 tracks that go east-west across the island.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link

Maybe this whole time Fields was a senior living in VMR who sure hates the sight of youngsters hanging around Canora station.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:44 (five years ago) link

I assume he's referring to Mile Ex.

xp

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 07:00 (five years ago) link

"do you have any sour beers" is usually my first question on entering any soi-disant craft beer pub. i won't come to montreal

imago, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 07:41 (five years ago) link


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