RIP Grant Hart

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whoa I never knew Rykodisc was from MP/SP

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

xxp
ha, I was hugely obsessed with Ohio bands in the 90s, so it cuts both ways.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

I don't think they started here but they were based here for ahwile...there is a reason Sugar was on the label.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Ryko had a huge warehouse here, like half of the music scene worked there at some point

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

some extra stories that didn't make the main city pages story, including the one i related here

http://www.citypages.com/music/lighting-m-80s-with-big-black-feeding-camembert-to-cats-friends-share-favorite-grant-hart-stories/445908383

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

thanks for the link to the article UMS. those first two paragraphs are crushing :(

i bought that yanomamos record that grant drummed on when it came out, it was ...not really what i was expecting

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

JJJ& cbesinger quoted in the second piece as well

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

Second piece just as good as the first. The Atmosphere and Albini stories especially are just fucking delightful. But now I'm crying again

(might have something to do with you can live at home now having come up on my headphones)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

oh and jesus christ the off the cuff village green parody! <3 grant <3

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

re prince / huskers - i like to imagine someone commissioning an ep with grant singing 'the cross' on one side and prince doing 'you can live at home now' on the other. if there's a heaven above...

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

A huge theater, arts, and comedy scene here as well, especially in the 80s, all of which I think is important.

See also: MST3K.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

re prince / huskers - i like to imagine someone commissioning an ep with grant singing 'the cross' on one side and prince doing 'you can live at home now' on the other. if there's a heaven above...

― plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:16 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh my god

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

yclahn final section definitely has a bassline prince might like (and which doesn't really have any kindred in huskers discography?)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

Can anyone comment on the remastered version of Intolerance (the one with Sic Semper Tyrannus on the cover)? Is it preferable to the SST?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

It sounds good, though the only other vers I heard of "Intolerance" was my old cassette copy so not sure if that's exactly audio apples to apples as it were.

The remix/remaster of "Last Days of Pompeii" is crucial

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

ahem...

If I were a rock and roll timelord, I'd go back to the 80s and create a Night Ranger/Husker Du split 7" with Night Ranger doing "Don't Want to Know if Your Lonely" and Husker Du doing "Don't Tell Me You Love Me" in their respected styles.

― earlnash, Friday, May 24, 2013 10:30 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

earlnash, Thursday, 21 September 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

I hadn't shed any actual tears about this whole thing, until I read the City Pages article on the train to work his morning and totally welled up. Kudos to all involved in putting it together, I'll be saving it in my Minneapolis rock memorabilia box.

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

Greg Dulli played "Keep Hanging On" at First Ave last night. It was beautiful.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

btw I think this detail from the City Pages article isn't getting enough attention, very exciting

After this news, Hart continued moving forward in the face of finality. He and his former bandmates finally agreed on a deal with the Chicago reissue label Numero Group to release Savage Young Dü, a box set of material from Hüsker Dü’s pre-SST days. And Hart continued recording music. He, Mansfield, and Piotrowski completed the first Yanomamos album since that boom box recording back in 1989, and he’d been working with Wisti on Pop Manifestos, a concept album based on Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber. (In accordance with Hart’s wishes, both projects will be released posthumously.)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

xpost The thing that always kept Grant Hart and Bob Mould united in my mind was the amount of space and detail they could summon with just an electric guitar at solo shows. Dulli captured that.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

did he play it solo or did the band play too?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

Solo, before the band came back out for the encore. Har Mar Superstar (who opened) sang some harmonies.

geoffreyess, Friday, 22 September 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

1) Schoolbuses Are For Children is so great
2) The opening part sounds very similar to the opening notes of "I Can't Make You Love Me" and as it turns out, the emotional effect is totally transferable
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRyeEgO59M

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

also love that pic

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

i wanna be in a grant hart tribute band so bad

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

That song also reminds me of some Bowie song I can't quite place. xxp

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

His late singing really reminds me of Bowie a lot. Something about the inflection and the way he drew out words.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

I was just thinking that while listening to the argument last week! There really is a tincture of Bowie in his voice there!

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

^^ Same. Even had to remind myself that it was released three years before Black Star.

pplains, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

So good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCBd7e0wCBQ

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

^And just to make it personal, this is about as good as anything Sugar ever did.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

I loved that Nova Mob album at the time. Dug it out a few weeks ago and it stands up.

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

^And just to make it personal, this is about as good as anything Sugar ever did.


ha! agreed. also now every time I listen to “If I Can’t Change Your Mind” I hear “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.” hey, it’s a good melody!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cejMKLwT-Y

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Full setlist:

Never Talking to You Again (Hüsker Dü song)
Flip Your Wig (Hüsker Dü song)
I Apologize (Hüsker Dü song)
A Good Idea (Sugar song)
Changes (Sugar song)
The Descent
I Don't Know You Anymore
Hold On
If I Can't Change Your Mind (Sugar song)
Hoover Dam (Sugar song)
Hey Mr. Grey
Love Is All Around (Sonny Curtis cover)
Makes No Sense at All (Hüsker Dü song)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

(This was an outdoor gig a couple days ago in San Francisco)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

grant did old empire quite frequently in his solo sets, also last days of pompeii & admiral of the sea

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

Wow, that's a lot more older songs than he usually plays. and I don't remember him playing "Flip Your Wig" recently.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

oh man "Never Talking to You Again," I don't know how to take that

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

That's a cool version of it.

I was wondering the same thing though. When they picked songs of each other for Karl Mueller's benefit, that's the one Bob went for then as well.

It's like

"Hey, Bob. Just wondering. What would be your favorite Grant –"
"NEVER TALKING TO YOU AGAIN."

pplains, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

And didn't Grant choose an all too apropos Bob song that night? Hardly Getting Over It?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

Since his concerted effort sort of comeback Bob has been playing a lot more Husker Du the last few years. I saw him solo earlier this year and was actually sort of bummed how little the setlist changed from night to night, given all the stuff he could play. He did play a handful of really early HD songs, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah, this is what Bob did in April:

Hoover Dam
Your Favorite Thing
Losing Time
See a Little Light
The War
I Apologize
The Descent
You Say You
Lonely Afternoon
Sinners and Their Repentances
Stand Guard
Chartered Trips
Hardly Getting Over It
Flip Your Wig
Voices in my Head
Hold On
If I Can't Change Your Mind
Daddy's Favorite
Black Confetti

Encore:
Love Is All Around
In a Free Land

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

ahhhhh great closer

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

that second nova mob lp is great. my copy is scratched to absolute fuck from playing it to death back in the day, but I dug it out again when Grant died, and a sturdy new needle ensured I could make it through If I Was Afraid/Coda, still one of my favourite Grant songs

Dr Keith Assblow (stevie), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

This was great. A Grant Hart memoir would have been wonderful. I look forward to spending some quality time with those sleevenotes.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

really nice Grant story from a new interview with Dean Spunt (No Age):

STEREOGUM: I guess my last question is: I know you go deep into the history of punk rock, and you and Randy are big fans of Hüsker Dü. As a singing drummer, did you feel any spiritual kinship with the late Grant Hart?

SPUNT: Yes definitely, if you haven’t noticed (Laughs)... I became friendly with Grant. And not so much that he was a singing drummer. I started playing drums and singing not because of Grant Hart, but because of a necessity and I didn’t really know how to drum, I didn’t really know how to sing, I didn’t really know how to put those things together, so for me it was important to try it as an exercise and that’s how I’ve always done things. I tried it out, I didn’t really know what I was doing. But we did become friends, and it’s heartbreaking.

STEREOGUM: I know No Age has played with Bob Mould, but I didn’t know you knew Hart. Are there any memories you would like to share?

SPUNT: Yeah, we played a festival with him in Rotterdam and he played this brilliant solo set, so moving. And we went back to the hotel we were staying at, and me and my friends and Grant, we were all in front of this hotel, and this kid walked by us. He was probably 18 or 19, and he was from there, and he looked at us and was like, “Hey, you fuckin’ Americans!” And he was super aggressive. I wouldn’t say I was frightened he was gonna fight us, but he was drunk and really angry and looked like he wanted to punch us. And Grant put his cigarette down and walked up to him and said, “Hey man, what’s your story?” The kid spoke English, he was like, “What?!” And Grant’s like, “What’s your story, man?” You know, “What’s making you like this, tell me about your father.” And we ended up talking to him for like 20 minutes. He almost brought the kid to tears, he became putty in Grant’s hand, the way he totally shaped this kid’s environment. Just his whole world had turned around. The kid left, I think we all gave hugs, me and my buddy were like, “Damn, man that was intense,” and it was really beautiful.

https://www.stereogum.com/1979361/no-ages-dean-spunt-on-their-new-album-navigating-the-industry-the-late-grant-hart/franchises/interview/

flappy bird, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

wow

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

eternal <3 for the generous spirit of grant hart

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link


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