Terminator 6 aka the real Terminator 3 or something oh god when will it end

Hollywood Reporter is now basically just the Fangoria magazine rumours column circa 1992

Who would win in a fight, Terminator or Predator?

PREDINATOR

bring it on. i loved the last Terminator

wtf adam this is insane

this has a better chance if being good than any of them post T2 at least.

i think Deadpool is an embarrassing character with an embarrassing fanbase but i caught the movie on TV and it wasn't half bad.

i'd watch a movie where a facehugger attacks a predinator and then an army of predinataliens descend on detroit where robocop must fight them off with the grudging support of the railway children

this has a better chance if being good than any of them post T2 at least.

t3 was largely garbage but i did like the bummer ending, where the world-saving plan they've been following the whole movie turns out to be a ruse to force john into safety inside cheyenne mountain just as armageddon arrives.

genisys is one of the worst movies i've ever seen

once you get over that they will never top T1/T2 and just want to watch a time travelling robot movie it's not that hard to enjoy T5.

T4 was a slug, just visually a chore to watch. too many earth tones, too much daylight, instead of scary skeleton-looking robots it had amorphous Transformers.

T5 brings back the night time, the red 80s lasers, etc. the leads weren't amazing but who cares.

i loved the CGI young Arnold. yes its cheesy. not sure what people want from these dumb movies about time traveling robots.

For them to travel back to when there were dinosaurs, duh.

Termisaurus=Big Bux! no one has DONE time traveling cyborg dinosaurs, we'll make a million!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lor_uUkJkkw

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genisys is one of the worst movies i've ever seen

― Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:26 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

also find it strange to think that anyone might have purchased tickets to a movie called "terminator genisys" expecting it would match terminator 1 or 2

i hope the new one returns the series a bit to its brutal cold dead tech industrial horror roots but i suspect not.

Hope this one is called Terminator: Revylashynz. In a heavy metal script, in front of a pentagram made out of Terminators.

I hope they bring back the T-1000000

Have they made one where we see the Terminator as a kid, if not can this one be the one where the Terminator is a kid because I want to see that.

https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/2e/e5/1d/2ee51deb9757dfeeaec3d4dbf0a5dc57.jpg

genisys is one of the worst movies i've ever seen

― Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:26 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:35 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the dude playing john connor was one of the worst performances i've even seen

they should do cgi to have edward furlong play the terminator as a kid and have him fight the dead kid who played darth vader as a kid. in the future.

wait, does everyone hate Avatar? i don't hate avatar. i've only watched it at home on the couch though. so the fact that its 4 hours long doesn't bother me.

also, the terminator as a kid could go into a space bar looking for young darth vader and humphrey bogart could be the bartender! they can totally do that kind of thing now.

ready terminator one

I don't hate Avatar, but it's a disposable movie that I don't ever want to think about again. I see no reason why it needs sequels.

It's a service to the future. If it doesn't have sequels then people will always wonder why there were no sequels.

Never watched captain planet and the smurfeteers cause of how incredibly bad and dumb it looked

i thought it was pretty good sci-fi. the story certainly resembled a lot of sci-fi i've read and enjoyed.

Avatar is a fine film, probably the best 3D I've seen until Valerian, but culturally it sunk like a stone - pretty much the only interesting thing to say about it is that it seems odd (and odder by the minutes) that the biggest US film ever had us cheering on the Viet Cong analogies.

hey so did Return Of The Jedi

c'mon, no one was cheering for the Ewoks

We were totally cheering for the Ewoks...to die.

your hate only makes them stronger

i really did like that new star wars movie that ends with the princess leaving the video in the robot. i would watch that again. so, i guess there are some exceptions when it comes to beating dead horses.

Avatar is one of the best-plotted tech demos I've ever seen.

Summer 2019

https://io9.gizmodo.com/its-official-the-next-terminator-movie-will-be-out-in-1818847609

Plus, interview with Cameron and Miller

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/james-cameron-sounds-alarm-artificial-intelligence-unveils-a-terminator-21st-century-1043027

Ellison, 34, has for the past year worked secretly with Cameron and Deadpool's Tim Miller, who will direct the untitled sequel for a July 26, 2019, release. They assembled a writers room with scribes David Goyer, Charles Eglee, Josh Friedman and Justin Rhodes as well as Ellison, a lifelong Terminator fan (Cameron himself shows up once a week), and have crafted what they want to be a trilogy with Schwarzenegger, 70, and original star Linda Hamilton, 62, passing the torch to a young female lead. The team hopes it's launching the equivalent of the new Star Wars trilogy — but with the most successful filmmaker of all time pulling the strings.

What could POSSIBLY go wrong.

Elsewhere at The Hollywood Reporter, Cameron said the following about his ridiculous film-making schedule: “The way I look at it is, I’m doing Avatar by day, Battle Angel by night and Terminator on the weekend.”

best-case scenario is none of them gets off the ground

when will james cameron stop doing battle angel

this weekend

jim cameron has a battle angel alita film in production, wtf?

i think he's had one in production for like a decade?

shit, even longer!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alita:_Battle_Angel

In February 2010, producer Jon Landau commented during an interview that he was trying to convince Cameron to change the film's title to Alita: Battle Angel, stating, "I'm telling people that we have to call it Alita: Battle Angel, because Jim only does T&A movies," he said.

Christoph Waltz as Ido is good casting I have to admit.

when will james cameron stop doing battle angel

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 27, 2017 1:02 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The names of street drugs get stranger all the time, but I wish Jim well on his road to recovery.

dropping my plot ruminations here since it's the newest thread

The dramatic tension and actual horror aspect of the Terminator series is linked to how strongly the main characters are threatened and the relative stakes

Terminator: A young woman, Sarah Connor, is personally threatened by this mysterious future cyborg. She's relatable, the world is relatively good if kind of seedy and threatening in an 80s Los Angeles way. They're trying to kill her because the world will conceivably end if she dies. Fear.

Terminator 2: Our main character is a kid. He's joined by an ally which -- clever twist! -- is the antagonist from the first film, but the threat is still impending judgment day and there's a much worse cyborg threat from even further down the line. Entire sideplot featuring a threatened family with kids, ramping up the tension.

Terminator 3: This existed. Same Arnold terminator/new terminator threat as the last one and it's mostly a retread. We get Claire Danes as our threatened person, but as viewers we know she's abducted by the good guys so the stakes are low. We already know the Arnold terminator can outwit the newer models because he has heart. The twist is that judgment day is inevitable, it's still a nuclear war triggered by machines. The real threat is apparently inevitability

Terminator Salvation: Everyone's a soldier. I guess the stakes are now that all of humanity are now the underdogs, but we've lost the threat of humanity's weapons ending the human race. It's whether the cyborgs and their big AI will finish us off. The real threat is the threat within, human/terminator hybrids! Which could be interesting, but even more than the last, jettisons the idea that it's a horror film and it ends up being not about whether a machine can have humanity, but whether a man that becomes a machine retains humanity. He does, and the ending is pretty much bait for a sequel that never happens.

Terminator Genisys: Not well-executed, but the threat is no longer nuclear apocalypse (or at least not that alone) but the idea that AI, the singularity, will eat us at some point. Threatened people? A young woman who already is battle-hardened, a newcomer from the future with all this baggage from the previous films, humanity will die and so on. Time travel is no longer a linear progression, which could be cool, but it's used in service of the idea that each Terminator chapter affects the time and place of the singularity but not the possibility of it happening. The idea of human/machine convergence is in play as in the last, but instead of a human with an Arnold terminator body, we get a human with the liquid terminator body. Overall, the main cast is threatened but we're completely out of the threat of violence. These people are contemporary but everyone's a soldier, basically.

Television sidebar of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: Terminator of the week episodes! This predates the last movie (last two maybe, I forget) but the threats became more about fighting the human influence of machines posing as men. Main terminator unit is a young woman, the dynamic is different. Completely variable in quality between episodes. I kind of want to rewatch it just to see Shirley Manson as the terminator that is secretly on our side, a plot thread that never gets flushed out because the series ends.

I think the only way a new movie could work is either as a biological extrapolation, maybe Skynet comes online but fucks with genetically modified embryos (I thought I was editing diabetes out of my genome, it turns out the computer made my baby into a sleeper soldier) or does something where it 3d prints its own humans. Or they go with even grittier back to basics, or some dumb "what is a soldier, really?" thing with self-aware terminators in the far future wandering off to start their own agrarian society

in other news, I think I'm going to start blogging instead of thread polluting, and seem to have had two beers and ordered the tv show on blu-ray last night (vmic)

that was a great post. i haven't seen anything past T2 but your post inspired me to read the wikipedia plot summaries of the last four.

also too bad you didn't have twelve beers and didn't order this

https://www.amazon.com/Terminator-Six-Disc-Limited-Endoskull-Blu-ray/dp/B001RIY49C

the three or four lonely posters who watched the tv show had a nice little thread about it, iirc

oh, I was there

thinking I could use some draperies

Yeah, carving through the border patrol agents like a knife was good stuff

This was good, this was bad. This was solid, this was OK. This was fine, this was boring. Maybe even in that order or maybe each at random times.

I was not expecting so much border stuff, I wish this movie had been smart enough to do something more interesting with it.

really enjoyed this!!!! wish literally anyone else had directed it, but as far as terminator sequels that don't need to exist go, this is the best one easy

yeah it starts out a little campy but has some impressive set pieces throughout. I enjoyed it on rewatch too.

I just watched Lady Terminator today and I don't know if I ever need to see another official Terminator entry after that ride.

I recall it fondly. Going to movies was the best.

saw Lady Terminator in a packed house at the Alamo last year, it was an absolute blast, def concur

Wait, which one are you calling Lady Terminator, this most recent one or Rise of the Machines?

I literally remember nothing about the most recent one except that it had some good parts, and some bad parts, and the bad parts were worse than the good parts were good.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Terminator

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Oh shit! Like, literally, "Lady Terminator!" I was in when I read that same first sentence.

lol Just Watch suggests, in order: Terminator, Terminator: Dark Fate, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Terminator Genisys, Terminator Salvation, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Lady Bird. It would be so awesome to program a Terminator series in that exact order with those exact films. You know, the *true* chronology, for the *real* fans.

(this was from searching for Lady Terminator)

Oh double shit, I tried watching the trailer for Lady Terminator, and this is what I got: "This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated."

!!!!

Don't spoil yrself with the trailer (which rehashes way too many quality moments). Just jump right in. It's somehow both LOL terrible and a pretty decent action movie (and the eye-removal scene features better SFX than the one in OG Terminator!).

Based on the landing strip set piece at the end, I'd be very surprised if someone involved with MacGruber hadn't seen and been inspired by this film.

We've been watching all 6 in order over the past few weeks. Despite loving 1 & 2 I had no idea there were actually this many sequels until recently. I think I enjoyed Dark Fate way more than it deserved because of how much we all really needed the og Sarah Connor as a lead - it was really refreshing and invigorating. And kind of funny! If not really having anything novel. Actually the idea of what Arnie would do after objective achieved was kind of interesting. They treated it as a bit of a handwave but an unexpected little idea. What I found odd was that the New Improved Terminator had the trick of splitting body from skeleton but they didn't really outline why/what the limitations were, which usually happens in these kind of films.

3 or 4 were the most boring. 4 was like a good showcase of killy machines but then you start wondering why a super AI killy machine system would bother making a motorbike version and sort of lost interest. 5 was kind of funny but too much of a lightweight reaction to the previous one and I couldn't get my head around the casting for the whole movie. John Connor was like Quentin Tarantino crossed with Chandler Bing.

The one with HBC as a computer head is the only one I try to forget.

all otm

5 was kind of funny but too much of a lightweight reaction to the previous one and I couldn't get my head around the casting for the whole movie.

Just started watching it, certainly a bold choice to cast Will Young as Kyle Reese.

Halfway through this - I have to watch films episodically at the moment. I wasn't expecting Terminator: The Sitcom but I'm all for it. The mild humour and timey wimey stuff was making me think of Doctor Who... and then Matt Smith showed up! Incredible.

do you have a baby or something? :)

Small children, yes. And a wife who doesn't want to waste her precious free time watching garbage SF.

There is a T5 thread, I'll save any further incisive commentary for there.