Mayo haven't been on dis ting since 1951: ILF welcomes all comers to Cluiche Cheannais na hÉireann 2013

They won today by a point, and while they didn't do themselves justice mayo will feel there's a lot that could've been improved too.

Last year there was a point between us over two games.

Talk of splitting the county based on that seems a bit premature.

That's not to mention that fucking Kerry minor team. If croker was winner stays on today them lads would've two medals each imo.

That David Clifford kid is a phenomenon

https://soundcloud.com/daniel-kelly-143/mid-wests-commentary-of-the-final-moments-of-dublin-v-mayo

fucking hell that is a rich combo of funny and hilarious. "it's like an injection you don't want and it keeps going"

gotta say the co-commentator there drifts into the sort of stuff that annoys me, like acting as if it's wrong or an injustice or something. there is no "deserve".

i meant to say "a rich combo of hilarious and sad" honest, oops.

the whole split dublin thing is just bollocks - you can't have an all-ireland in which one county is forced to field regional teams. the only amusing element is it might end up dublin v dublin some years.

what i wish would happen, and i dunno how we get there, is for there to be a few more teams at the level of mayo, kerry and dublin. the mayo kerry first game and dublin mayo yday were some of the best gaa i've ever seen. we need more of that all season.

Everything about that radio clip sounds like from the 1970s for some reason, which is wonderful.

If people only understood where I come from they'd have a lot more appreciation about the efforts I'm making tbh

second captains was good today, mike quirke made some of the points i made upthread in a more calm manner.

No craic in that

lolz.

It was good. Tbh it needed another hour tho, I mean the game itself got little or nothing and as an actual match it deserves a full analysis.

Little disappointed that this didn't break gaa in wider ilx, there might never be a better advert ito buildup, context and actual delivered match

Did you advertise it outside this thread? Bcz the thread title is not the most inviting for newcomers.

Learning to appreciate a completely new sport is hard. I got into hurling because of ilx, your thread, and - I think I said this before - for the first hundred posts or so I thought you were all taking the mick, Truman Show like. I couldn't believe it actually existed. That was enough for me to get intrigued. Read about the rules, watch matches etc. But it takes an effort and I will for ever be way, way behind the two of you, because it's not in my cultural dna.

Hurling sucked me in GAA football, too, and I've embraced both, though at a molecular level it's still hard; I notice I miss things other people notice. Not a score, but the tiny things, things from around the game. And feels.

Having said that, someone like LJ should be all over this. Die-hard rooting for Tyrone, or whoever is the equivalent of Jute Gyte in GAA football.

I can't stop listening to that midwest radio thing upthread. Martin Carney fucking loses it at 3 mins 12, like embarrassingly so in my opinion. His voice betrays an entitled rage that has no justification to it - I'd go as far as to see that kind of voice is part of the problem. Also there's a palpable vibe of the two guys secretly relishing the return of their old friend Mr Pain at the end. The game isn't even over and they're not open to the possibility of an equaliser. As a Dublin fan I still was nervous in the final minutes, they sound certain, but there's also a sense of the tension being relieved, of everything being easier when the thing you feared happens once again.

It's some fucking dark shit.

but i'm sorry, it's also hilarious. the main commentator actually has the tone of voice and words of a whining child. carney is like as if he genuinely believes this is the greatest injustice of all time - to lose a game, fairly played, between a couple of great teams. and his bitterness at "dublin will do whatever now, they'll do anything" - like as if we're supposed to try a fucking banana shot from the halfway line rather than (in truth, masterfully) passing the ball around to end the game despite a ludicrous addition of two spare minutes.

almost every dublin fan i've spoken to has a p negative view of mayo, which feels harsh, but the likes of carne are responsible for this. i spoke to a pal before the game last week who's v active in gaa in dublin and he said "i thought i'd never hate a team as much as meath, i was wrong" - feels tough enough on a side that gives it such a lash but i am fairly sure it all comes from the weird sense of hype around mayo, even in defeat they get the column inches. there is an element of addiction to the cycle of hurt and heroism - someone could write a thesis let alone an article.

i mean if carney drifted into the vein of a man howling at the cosmos for its indifference, seeking reasons for the random hurt and injustice of existence, then i could be down with it. but i don't get that from his tone.

Far be it from me to say anything about this being your focus two days after three in a row

It's a nice luxury for ya imo

haha it's not really my focus, just itt. i've spent a lot of time discussing the dubs in the last 36 hours, with family and friends. i don't know anyone from mayo so you're the sounding board here.

I think there was one added minute to injury time. It was warranted imo and didnt a dublin player get a black card

Another fucking cross to bear o it's too much god help us, mayo

there was a lot more than one, i'd need to see it again but from memory there were 6 minutes added and he blew up at least 78:30, maybe 79:00. it was a joke. there were stoppages within the six but not three minutes' worth.

blew up at 78:50. I felt it was excessive at the time

Agreed on the stoppage time

it was deflationary for us imo, to be one down and maybe two minutes to play I think we could have used the urgency to push one last time

With six to go, it was a real sense of dubs in ten ascendancy and even if we snatched one - and let's be real they never looked like letting that happen- there was no trouble to the dubs to hit us again and then another few mins of holding us off.

The three minute the ref added, it was over at that stage tbh

Not sidestepping the duty, but as far as being a sounding board goes for the MWR listening, Dublin hating, sorrow loving, conspiracy theorist mayo fan, and again I'm not for a second saying these ppl don't exist in great numbers, I'm probably not your guy.

I mean I'm the mayo fan other mayo fans slag for being Judas if not joining in on all that shite, if I don't predict a win in teh final, all that stuff

I'm not, if spurs and Ireland haven't given it away, that type of supporter trevor

Xpost There might have been 2 minutes actually. Yknow yourself the ref is always going to give the other team a chance to score in a game that tight.

I was watching the game with my dad and when Dublin were playing keep ball in the dying seconds he said "ah they shouldnt be doing that". THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING

yeah it was more curiosity as to their existence rather than lumping you all in together.

i do kinda think dublin did what they had to do. and if they had to do more they would have. they don't play with wild abandon in the finals under gavin, they never have. they just put themselves in a position to win, in the last 5-10 minutes, and usually take the opportunity. read jim mcguinness there talking about mayo throwing it away in the last 10 etc, and having the job done, and it's kinda silly. i don't have stats to hand but i bet dublin score a heap in the last 5-10 minutes. they have beaten the likes of kerry by 6/7 points having been level on 62 mins. a lot of that is the bench but they're also incredibly calm.

xpost the keep ball really irritates people but it's actually effective. two years ago in the semi-final they did that for 6/7 minutes and sucked the entire mayo defence to one corner of the midfield then passed to kev mc and he scored a goal.

cluxton did have one really loose handpass tho.

xpost to deems re "curiosity about their existence"

McGuinness is right about what Mayo have to learn but I think his use of that game to support the thesis was 100% forced and incorrect.

Nobody in the country thinks that you can shut down this Dublin team with 7 minutes left to play and only two points in it, and certainly no Mayo fan wanted us to try.

The moments that mattered, where it felt like we had a chance, were when we were dominating the midfield battle, Keegan goal, and the two seconds prior to Vaughan's moment.

I don't think McGuinness's suggested tactics would've worked as he says and I don't think we could have had the success we did in the game with that mentality.

tbh subbing McLoughlin and Moran felt like bad calls at the time, and seeing how we never really got through ye again after that I'm inclined to call them out as confirmed mistakes.

LBI have you watched it back yet!

I think McGuinness overstated the thing a bit too - there were times where Dublin were a bit rattled but no more than during the games of recent years. Two years ago Mayo scored a goal second half and pushed ahead. Last year in both matches they had spells of dominance. But he is the high priest in the cult of "cause chaos in the Dublin ranks" - he's been dining off being the only person to beat Gavin for a long time.

The unstated fact is that it takes a hell of a lot to play this Dublin team that way. Add the bench they have into it and it's not tactical nor individual failure when they come strong at the end of a match, it's absolutely inevitable.

Watched it last night! Of course not nearly as entertaining when you know the score already. Plus I miss the extra added tension of having a favorite side. Still, I thought especially the second half was great fun. I thought it was strange how Mayo played in ET. They seemed out of it, all of a sudden, bit all over. O'Connor was great. Vaughn's red was so stupid.

Discarding that I knew the outcome already, Mayo just never looked like they'd nick it the last 15 mins or so.

jesus ill say this much

i wouldnt want paul kimmage on my tail

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/paul-kimmage-low-lie-the-fields-of-athenry-the-gaa-story-every-parent-will-want-to-read-36879150.html

im pissin myself the more i think about this

what must he be like to live with

well that was a particularly fucking horrible injury

Yea very nasty. Poor guy.

Caught the last 6 minutes of that game today. I'd say they were the best minutes

seen angle from behind and i just cannot

I caught a glimpse of it on one of those GAA banter pages. Yikes

rip

just when i thought i was out

that goal from carr is the type of individual brilliance the team hasnt had since the crossmolina ronaldinho himself

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-playing-mayo-is-like-cod-liver-oil-you-don-t-enjoy-it-but-you-re-better-for-it-1.3951744

read that now and tell me that you dont want to get in the gaa. poetry.

oh its huge from the start this one

comprehensive victory for committed competence here

mayo opting for another approach

Thought it'd be a tighter game tbh

spillane and everyone else did but the prick was like Nostradamus at half time

mayo havent shown

Standard is poor in this game