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I can't believe it took me this long to hear the new Death Angel album. Quite the impressive comeback...aside from the clunky hardcore "Land of Blood", this is outstanding, old school thrash.

a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Hanzel und Gretyl's "Scheissmessiah." Moves out its heaven & hell themes right smartly to marching beats and World War I Hun imagery.
A metal version of "Hallelujah" chorus works.

George Smith, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Color Guard's DARK POP isn't exactly metal, but close enough even fro my neighbor, who claims that *this* will be thee XXXmass that hs wife will let him get that ultimate tattoo (sure). I'd say (listening to vocal parts sprinkled like hemlock over wet woods through which kerosene-driven inventions shift gears in celebration of second-term ecodiscourse), that these maidens and their impared-chromosome familiar are from a village within site of The Gathering's dolmen; that they are cousins of Rasputina, and babysitters of Kittie.Navaho Code Talkers' HEAVY DIRTY SOUNDS also close enough to metal;Quebecois cognac femme vocals oui!Slunt's "Inside" prob make my P&J Singles. Na Jag Panzer started strong, but got too canned on Tap in the middle (exercycle sez resume counting though) Eat thy victory, St. George!

don, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"But what of Zakkk Wylde," my xxxrcycle asks?

don, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link

We agree on Slunt. I can do without the songs with the ooo-way-ooo punk rock choruses but "Inside" does it. Thumbs up, too, on Navajo Code Talkers. Smashmouth without sounding typically like North American wall-o-unimaginatively-played heavy rhythm guitar. I hear loud Fender Twins as opposed to Brit stacks.

George Smith, Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

So I finally heard Witchcraft's album (Brian O'Neill burned me one), and it appears to be just about everything everybody says it is. Probably has the best chance of making my Pazz and Jop list of any metal album this year, give or take Ewigkeit (unless there's one I'm forgetting).

chuck, Sunday, 7 November 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Witchcraft? That's such a briliantly simple name I'm surprised nobody came up with it before! New band or not?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Q: is there any chance for someone [with appropriate Metal knowledge/ expertise and research skills] to volunteer some time to summarize all 2004 released albums mentioned on this thread?

i.e format
artist - album title

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Witchcraft? That's such a briliantly simple name I'm surprised nobody came up with it before! New band or not?
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), November 7th, 2004.

there should be metal kraftwerk cover band called Witchkraftwerk

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

How many metal covers of Kraftwerk even exist, though? (Only reason I ask is a means of pointing out that Treponem Pal covered "Radioactivity" once -- unless it was Voivod, but I *think* it was Treponem Pal. And Big Black covered "The Model," if they count.)

chuck, Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Treponem Pal. I used to have that album around somewhere.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Volunteer, I grant thee all the time needed, to summarize these 2,000 (plus) souls in my mind. But *should* I exercycle for Zak Wylde, and if so which one?

don, Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll bite with a gross generalization: It's dismaying how many bands in this thread are nothing more than metal's magazine cover stories/back cover ads of 2004.

Between the Buried and Me seems to totally slay Mastodon -- except when exploring their Mountain Goats influence.

Mortiis had the side project Fata Morgana, which was essentially a Kraftwerk cover band.

I used to consider Harry Pussy in their raging prime to be American black metal, and they covered Showroom Dummies.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Unleashed album is much better than the 3 Inches Of Blood disc.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

It's dismaying how many bands in this thread are nothing more than metal's magazine cover stories/back cover ads of 2004.

Okay then, here's one...I'm really enjoying the recent album Mob Wheel, by Shallow North Dakota. It's got kind of an Eyehategod/Outlaw Order/Melvins/Isis thing going on with this one. Great sludgy sound to it all. Last I heard, it was released only on double LP (I have a promo cd of it).

Also, I'm impressed with the new cd by Italian band The Secret, which has a similar Isis/Neurosis sound, but instead of sludge, it's got more of a crisp, prog (think Meshuggah) influence, with some surprising melodic bursts that appear from out of nowhere.

Has anyone else heard the new Mnemic album? I like it. In a real ballsy move, they cover Duran Duran's "Wild Boys", and they make it work.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Volunteer, I grant thee all the time needed, to summarize these 2,000 (plus) souls in my mind. But *should* I exercycle for Zak Wylde, and if so which one?

Eesh. The guy who ISO 9000 codified the p-too punctuating noise done with the whammy bar, now injected into every pause or hole in metal riffage by the generics.

I'd pick two possibles, if pressed. "Living the Life I Wanna Live" from the "Rockstar" soundtrack, or the double live CD ... "Alcohol Fueled Brewtality" or something, because it's relentless noise.

George Smith, Monday, 8 November 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The greatest thing about Zakk Wylde is that his signature guitar improves on the Eddie Ojeda signature model. I wanna rock!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The greatest thing about Zakk Wylde is that his signature guitar improves on the Eddie Ojeda signature model. I wanna rock!

Then you'll want to admire his signature metal overdrive footpedal, too. I think he's also in the business of peddling chain link guitar straps. Next, maybe bullseye painted Zakk Wylde free weights.

For pure nausea, however, nothing compares to the enormous pile of Eddie van Halen signature guitar junk.

George Smith, Monday, 8 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant, once you scrape off the paint, a Les Paul beats a Kramer Strat any day.

Anyway:

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The Kerry King Signature Special package also includes a KKV gigbag, KKV guitar strap, a full-color poster of Kerry King, custom tribal headsweat, and signature guitar picks.

http://www.bcrich.com/images/guitars/sm_kkv_pk.jpg

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

a Les Paul beats a Kramer Strat

Very true, Ian. Kramer, the house that EVH built and which went bankrupt upon trying to pick its final winner, Gorky Park, with an official "Gorky Park" balalaika-shaped axe.

No one ever really dies in the business, though. Kramer, I bet, has climbed out of disgrace by sweatshopping their manufacturing to Indonesia or someplace where a roll of nickels a year is a wage.

George Smith, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

George on Bathtub Shitter. Be sure to check out the advertisements:

http://villagevoice.com/issues/0445/smith.php

chuck, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

How many metal covers of Kraftwerk even exist, though? (Only reason I ask is a means of pointing out that Treponem Pal covered "Radioactivity" once -- unless it was Voivod, but I *think* it was Treponem Pal. And Big Black covered "The Model," if they count.)

Harry Pussy did "Showroom Dummies."

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Read upthread about ten posts or so, m'friend. Another Ian has already observed it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

ack. oops. sorry metal dudes!

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

is that bathtub shitter album available in the US? somewhere? these mp3s are killing me.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

You can get it from Aquarius.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

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The Relapse Records store also had BS.

George Smith, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Praise for Bathtub Shitter, from net hoi polloi:

"i find ... "Lifetime Shitlist" to be hilarious.

mosurock posted this on Nov 11th, 2004 at 10:44:49 am

As do I find ... "Control of Own Hole".

west nile posted this on Nov 11th, 2004 at 12:13:06 pm

I find this band to be brutal. I will get a bathtub shitter tattoo if someone else pays for it.

mike posted this on Nov 11th, 2004 at 01:05:56 pm

Man...I love that band...I need to get the CD.

I've got the lifetime shitlist 7", but I need the rest of the tracks.

I can now confirm I.C.E's "Apocalyptic End..." is also worth ear damage. It's no Bathtub Shitter but still has moments.
The blast beat tripe does not completely overcome the enjoyment of the ridiculous and the infrequent slab of radiating power riff. Art reminds me of my old Creepy and Eerie magazines. Now, when someone in this type of "act" figures out they can do Ambrose Bierce to the din rather than use their own lyrics...

=========


George Smith, Sunday, 14 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Bitter Bierce= Kandia's brew she avows. Bet Lemmy's into him too.

don, Monday, 15 November 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Now, when someone in this type of "act" figures out they can do Ambrose Bierce to the din rather than use their own lyrics...

Then they will become my favorite band ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 November 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Due to the diligence of Chuck, I've finally had a listen to the "Codeine Rock" CD-R's by Mr. Wonka?! Good screwed Foghat, Mountain, Ozzy's "Crazy Train" ... lots more, too. The guy knows what to do with hard rock, taking the right riffs into downtune computermetrically. I wouldn't want an entire rekkid store full of it but as an A-Z, it's worth repeated ear damage. I liked it easily enough to want to hear a Mr. Wonka?! transform of "Mr. Big."

George Smith, Sunday, 21 November 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

me wantum Mr Wonka?! Somebody just sent me a burn of BLOODROCK 2. Of course, "D.O.A" is their masterpiece, but also other innerestingly skewed (not gorey!) POVs and even tunefulness if not tunes (could see them as possible influence on pre-Manilow Styx and orange-label-mix of first Boston)(butt prob just the zeitgeist). Speaking of other 'second and third level early 70s hard rock," George, have you heard Supagroup? They should be big as The Darkness dammit! Their actual lot is more like(mine and) Bloodrock's, in BR's "Fancy Space Odyssey": "Livin' in a hoedown, workin' for th' lowdown." Amen, Podner.

dn, Sunday, 21 November 2004 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I reviewed Supagroup at one time. I did like the record, one of their songs being a nifty translation of Savoy Brown's "Street Corner Talking." "Cat Soup" was pretty good, too, having that funny, tasteless story by a poor man vibe that everyone in American hard rock lost with the onset of the Age of Seriousness and Endeavor. Supagroup get no push, sadly. Their label, Foodchain, is the kind of place you want to be if you place great value on parsimony and are planning to die soon by misadventure (see Betty Blowtorch).

Mardo are i the same 70's hard rock thing, but more to the Kinks side than white-boy blooz.

You'd probably like "Bloodrock Live," too, Don. It pretty much collects their best material -- probably redone in the studio actually with a crowd track from some gig. It picks up some extra vim as compared to the studio recordings, which helps a lot on the material from "Bloodrock 3."

I definitely hear the influence on Styx, possibly early Kansas, too, although the latter also had to be copping from Uriah Heep's "Look at Yourself." ("Belexes," for example.)

Was watching an MTV2 special on Busted over the weekend. Apparently huge in England, they have come over here to conquer and appear to have already lost the fight. Lots of worried knitting of brows that Busted will be pitched as a boy band to eleven year old girls, something that got them success in Britain but which obscured their true nature, it is said, as a hard rock and pop band that "wrote their own songs."

Busted arrive in New York. Are taken to label edifice in Manhattan where they attend a 90 second meeting in which every department head informs them enthusiastically that they will be aggressively pitched to the teenage wet-your-pants girl demographic, getting to be on some Nickelodeon show where the focus is pouring icky syrups and candies on the heads of guests in front of screaming children. Ha-ha-ha-ha, the dismay on their faces caught by the camera was priceless. Best short comedy piece over the weekend.


George Smith, Sunday, 21 November 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, some of BLOODROCK 2 could use live vim, ,although mainly if I listen on headphones: singer's wailing, but drummer's tap tapping along like listening to (or playing) a guide track. Sometimes, not always. Your tale of Busted is scarier than "D.O.A." Reminds me that the Push Kings went for teeny *and* hard rock buzz. FEEL NO FADE's hadclapping and stomping platform shoes for the gurlies, yet also with a Penthouse type in the booklet (also a condom packet, good to go, but would American kids even know what that is, with federally-mandated abstinence-only Social Education? So maybe it's not nec. for American kids.) Also chirping about how wasted they are (little James Deans looking for a fascinated Nice Girl). But I think they've been smoking Greg Shaw's early 70s Juke Box Juries in Creem (seen the rockist Bubblegum thread?) Seems like a good ploy, but where are they now, or then, for that matter? (think this is from '99/'00)

don, Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I ask when you two will be close proximity with each other so I can buy you both some beers and just listen to the chat? (Said chat is equally grand here, I note.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Just saw the rockist bubblegum thread. To answer your question, yep, I bought the Hollywood Stars LP, motivated by -- I think -- lickspittle hype by Creem. It was on Arista, which should tell you much re hard rock quality, and it was poor. One really good song, "All the Kids On the Street" and then zip. I expected something like The Sidewinders or, at worst, Pezband. As far as it having something to do with Kim Fowley, I'd rate it parallel to The Orchids in quality. I take that back. The Orchids were unlistenable, not because they were awful, but because they were exactly nothing. If the Mac music program Garageband had existed back then, it would
have made The Orchids.

I think all these bands would have done better had they cut the cheese and reliance on the say-so of Hollywood types and tried bribing people into letting them onto Outlaws and Skynyrd tours. Artful Dodger went that way and they wound up with a couple of good records and a reputation.

What's most entertaining is to see how American and mechanical the treatment of a band like Busted is. It's obvious the label employees believe in pop music, or hard rock, or whatever, as an equation to be solved simply by arranging the right inputs and outputs and balancing them.

It's nasty and a joy to watch other people come a cropper by it. The Busted guys can sit there and watch as their careers are taken in thirty seconds, analyzed according to theoretical demographic, and ground into packets of Lik-M-Aid. (Which, by the way, comes with the Mr. Wonka?! CD-Rs.) In their old age they will still be able to precisely map when they became fucked. Yep, it was when they said nothing as the chick at the big table scheduled 'em for that TV show where Cocoa Marsh is dumped on heads.

Well, things could be worse. You could always be in a Kiss, Judas Priest or Queen tribute band, which is what I learned from the absolutely awful documentary, "Tribute." Watching "Tribute" was right up there with going to the eye doctor to have a chelazion in your bottom eyelid cauterized. It was too much about sadism/masochism rationalized as a way to earn some money off rock and roll. You get to be Kiss without any of the benefits or, actually, Wicked Lester.
You get to put on faux Kiss duds (or faux Judas priest) and make-up
(how good it looks dependent on your limited budget,) play the Kiss songs you're sick of in small dives for really drunk men. If there are any women involved, it's only one or two with grey tattoos and all their teeth knocked out from years of amphetamines abuse. Finally, you "get lucky" in the sense that someone with a video camera puts you onscreen on cable, like that series about whores at some street corner in one of the outer boroughs of NYC.

Get slowly driven mad until you quit, have a nervous breakdown that results in a transformation into a religious zealot.

George Smith, Sunday, 21 November 2004 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link

And in thread-related info, this just in for those who think extreme metal just isn't canned enough yet:

Precision Sound Releases "Demonic - Voices from Hell" Sample Collection

From the darkest areas of human vocal art comes a new 158-file, 24-bit Mono WAV format collection of "Growls", "Screams" and "Words". All WAV files has also been mapped for HALion & Kontakt for easy access if you working with these samplers.

Demonic - Voices from hell offers unprocessed performances from professional singers in the darker heavy metal genres. The collection contains staccato and long growls, hi and lo in different "tonal colors" and lengths, screams and demonic words.

For more information, visit their web site at

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George Smith, Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy shit! I'monna go listen to Arthur Russell instead (oh yeah was *gonna* mention the folk who did sucessfully cross over from teeny to officially recognized Hard Rock, like Shaun and David Cassidy tried to. Peter Frampton from the Herd, at least kind of, like when he was in Humble Pie with Steve Marriott from Small Faces, and of course the Faces did okay. And my own fave rave, from the Amen Corner, Andy Fairweather Low. Eventually disappeared into Eric Clapton's band, which is like being that second guitarist in Mountain, except I'd rather hear more Mountain) (should I? Don't remember anything but "MS. Queen", or West, Bruce & Laing either)

don, Monday, 22 November 2004 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link


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