Rolling 2017 Thread on Race

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Not Guilty verdict for Stockley murder of Anthony Lamar Smith
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/15/us/jason-stockley-officer-shooting-verdict/index.html

Spottie, Friday, 15 September 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

this fucking country

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, September 11, 2017 2:53 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 15 September 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Got friends in St Louis sending updates, schools and after school activities are cancelled and people are being told to stay home. Could get nasty tonight in St Louis.

Spottie, Friday, 15 September 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

downtown is already barricaded, no cars allowed.

Forceful, pained statement from @RepMikeButler in response to #jasonstockley not guilty verdict https://t.co/QAljzNwVPd pic.twitter.com/nZkLDfDgFJ

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) September 15, 2017

Spottie, Friday, 15 September 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

Ex-ilxors are on the scene, too

Hit to Death in the "Galactic Head" (kingfish), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

"I don't know where else to put this so I'm putting it here"

I am sort of surprised nobody has attempted to copyright / trademark "wypipo" yet. It just seems like a candidate for a terrible startup name (cf "Bodega" which we as a nation all shit on last week)

El Tomboto, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

*squashes sudden desire to create a business plan for a rideshare app called Wypipo*

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

*hides skateboard*

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link

Living in this country often feels like constantly getting kicked in the balls.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I think this World Series incident is worth a crossover from sportsland.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/10/28/16563112/yuli-gurriel-yu-darvish-racist-gesture-world-series-game-3-response

It's complicated by the fact that Gurriel is Cuban, and acc to many white guys online "doesn't understand our culture." It overlooks the fact that he played in Japan for awhile.

This may blow up further today depending on whether there's a suspension or not.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 October 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

lol this isn’t even a little bit complicated IMO

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

i meant purely in terms of the shitshow that will ensue

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

too bad gurriel doesn't play for cleveland

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

already whiteguy sports fans weighing in with "hey he was raised under communist oppression" and "he doesn't know what racism is"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

i sort of doubt anyone whose opinion is worth hearing has said anything like that

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 October 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

luckily no one else is allowed to say things

j., Saturday, 28 October 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/29/sports/football/nfl-anthem-lockhart.html

turns out "lifelong democratic operatives" include guys like this

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 October 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

anyone have any recommendations for reading on the history of race & racism in the UK? an overview focused on the domestic situation rather than empire would be ideal

ogmor, Monday, 30 October 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link

I saw this book on the weekend, and it looks good:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51gYGyHeo8L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

glumdalclitch, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link

that looks good but there's no way I'll get through 650 pages of it

ogmor, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

A post-Halloween reminder that the real monsters are regular people:

http://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-west-hartford-student-arrest-20171101-story.html

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

To follow up on my previous post, I started cataloging all of the reported instances of Halloween blackface in a Facebook post:

https://www.facebook.com/djperry1973/posts/10159617382005038

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

Jesus that's depressing

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

Re: Trump and Economic insecurity....https://t.co/11AMCWJGpq pic.twitter.com/YBc1RS7ERV

— Ta-Nehisi Coates (@tanehisicoates) November 8, 2017

j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Gotta hand it to racists. They are prolific when it comes to making up unfunny acronyms.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/us/air-force-academy-racist.html

: /

j., Friday, 10 November 2017 05:27 (six years ago) link

Briahna Joy Gray on Coates (and identity politics in the age of Trump more broadly):

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/identity-politics-cant-get-us-out-of-the-mess-racism-made.html

Simon H., Monday, 13 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

Before we start arguing about this, Simon, do you agree with the piece? Or is this another one of those 'I don't necessarily agree with everything, but it raises some interesting points' kind of thing?

Frederik B, Monday, 13 November 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

at this point I'm not particularly invested or interested in what messaging the Dems do or don't engage in, just thought folks here might find it interesting/worthy of discussion

Simon H., Monday, 13 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Well, if you like that discussion you should check out the 98 times we've had it already. It was worthy.

Frederik B, Monday, 13 November 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

Well, if you like that discussion you should check out the 98 times we've had it already.

Wait, we’ve had several dozen discussions of this Briahna Joy Gray piece already? But it was posted today

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

We have talked this exact argument to death multiple times; the end result is that people who want to downplay race in favor of class do not have a firm grasp of how this country has historically solved class problems (ie, by making them slightly better for white people at the expense of non-white people until those non-white people protest and mobilize legislative allies who put them at the starting point their white counterparts were in decades before them).

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

If you don't want to acknowledge that, feel free to continue tooting the "only class really matters" horn; I tooted it myself when we were living in a country where it wasn't patently obvious that a large segment of the country would inflict grievous harm upon themselves in order to protect the success of already-successful people who looked like them who wanted to put in place roadblocks that affect people who look like me. Watching the country's reaction to Obama's presidency was enlightening and terrifying.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

DJP otm

the late great, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link

this essay does the sort of concern-trolling abt "electability" that leftists otherwise recognize as diseased thinking among centrists https://t.co/U18IKslo8G

— 🌺JUSTIN CHARITY (@justincharity) November 13, 2017

Simon H., Monday, 13 November 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

Reading through this article, it's completely disingenuous. It holds up Coates' critique, which criticizes the rush that a bunch of white centrists, liberals, and progressives made to absolve some segment of Trump voters from racism and recommendations to downplay critique of racial issues in favor of more discussion of economic issues, as if it has no intersectional component to it and then presents as a solution the logical endpoint of the arguments Coates has been making from the get-go.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.twincities.com/2017/11/29/only-i94-protester-to-go-to-trial-found-guilty-of-public-nuisance/

When Jeffrey Berger stood beside hundreds of other protesters and blocked traffic for hours on Interstate 94 following the 2016 police shooting of Philando Castile, he says he knew he was putting himself at risk for arrest or even injury.

But he doesn’t believe his actions to be criminal, he told jury members hearing his case in Ramsey County District Court this week.

“I believe it is necessary for white-skin people to take risks with their own bodies to help heal the effects of white supremacy,” Berger said.

j., Friday, 1 December 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

god, what a load of bullshit. good for berger.

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link

why did he get singled out in particular?

Nhex, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

he's the only one who didn't take a plea deal

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

whyyyyyyy do i read comments on articles like that

the late great, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

also, iirc the local organizers used a strategy of deliberately putting forward the white allies who could weather the legal trouble relatively ok for arrest purposes

j., Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

A good friend of mine who is currently living in The Netherlands posted a picture of her kids with Sinterklas and Zwarte Piet (in full-on blackface) on Facebook with the caption “You never know who you’ll run into at the Saturday market!” She is a liberal American married to a Frenchman. Several common friends of ours who are also liberals, also American, tagged her picture with likes and loves. A couple of people I don’t know questioned the blackface; all of the names I recognize are white people going “oh how precious!” aside from one common friend who liked the link I posted to the current controversy around Zwarte Piet.

There are times when I feel really, really over white people.

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

A woman whose profile picture is literally text that says “END IT: SHINE A LIGHT ON SLAVERY” just wrote “I don't know the history, so I am not offended. I see two men in costume being sweet to your adorable children.”

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

She means *white* slavery tho, maybe check your own assumptions

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

I’m sorry, DJP

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

Sorry bad quip (although the 1st part is prob true), these ppl suck obv xp

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

It is true that who you run into at Saturday market is an mostly unknowable thing

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

i was going to say the same thing, about "white" slavery and about being sorry how many oblivious fuckheads are still roaming the earth

Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 December 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link


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