The second-longest active winning streak is three (PHI).
― Andy K, Friday, 15 September 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
i'm watching the bottom of the 9th now
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 September 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
wow gordon was so close to getting lindor's double
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 September 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
yeah ramirez's double was ballsy as hell
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 September 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link
against cain of all guys
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 September 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
ahhh this was nuts
― marcos, Friday, 15 September 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-qaihcXkAABzEp.jpg
― brownie, Friday, 15 September 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
don't ruin this with that thing
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 September 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
feels like a playoff game
but it's not.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
i love having this MLB Extra Innings package for times like this.
3 - 3
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:39 (six years ago) link
he went around
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
didn't matter, wondering if we are going to have a night like last night?
KC is now up
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
they're an excellent team
wake me when they lose
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 September 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link
not looking good
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
they were down one run going into the ninth last night. can they do it again?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
still fun
― Bee OK, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
couldn't have happened to a racister team
― qualx, Saturday, 16 September 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link
well there's always the red sox i guess
It is pretty impressive that Cleveland did this streak without Andrew Miller too, considering how big he was in their success last season.
― earlnash, Saturday, 16 September 2017 06:10 (six years ago) link
True, but most of the games weren't close (only four or five one-run games I think?) so Miller wouldn't have made much of a difference.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 16 September 2017 10:52 (six years ago) link
Kluber's had one not-that-good start since May 2 (in that one he gave up 4 ER/9 H in 6.1 IP vs the ChiSox, though he also only walked one while striking out 12.)
― nomar, Sunday, 17 September 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
hard to choose between him and sale for cy young
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 September 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
i would have said Sale til a month ago but it's Kluber now i think. almost as many IP as Sale despite missing a month (and Sale not missing any time), lower WHIP, lower ERA, lower BAA, much higher bWAR (though curiously a much lower fWAR), plus 5 complete games and 3 shutouts to 1 and 0 for Sale.
also, Kluber has one more win. ; )
― nomar, Sunday, 17 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
he's within 1.0 fWAR after today's game. sale's FIP is a bit better because of all the strikeouts, but is maybe getting some home run luck -- kluber has the better xFIP
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 September 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
They've still got 2-3 starts each, so things could change, but today, I'd definitely vote for Kluber. Sale's been up and down since the break--awesome starts mixed in with poor ones. Kluber since he returned from the DL:
ERA - 1.77, .171/.209/.283 opposition slash line, almost a 10-1 K/BB ratio. And that's not counting today's start. Also: dominant during the winning streak.
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
does anyone else stay up at night feeling bummed about how kluber started too late to be a HOFer
― qualx, Sunday, 17 September 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
he should do a DBZ fusion with cliff lee then they'd both get in
― qualx, Sunday, 17 September 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
This gives Sale 4.9 runs of support, Kluber 5.4...I wouldn't give that a lot of weight without knowing how the runs were distributed.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/stats?season=2017&category=PITCHING+II&group=1&sort=2&time=0&pos=0&qual=1&sortOrder=1&splitType=0
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 September 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
Kluber leads in bWAR 7.1 to 5.9 (which doesn't include yesterday's start).
Sale's durability (= his big lead in IP) was maybe his biggest advantage over Kluber, but that's pretty much gone. I think it's Kluber's award to lose now.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 18 September 2017 07:48 (six years ago) link
https://www.mlb.com/indians/fans/miniteam
― mookieproof, Monday, 18 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
Kluber's bWAR is now 7.9
― nomar, Monday, 18 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
greatest stretch run in baseball history?
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 21 September 2017 06:11 (six years ago) link
I guess it depends how you define it. Their division title was not in serious doubt before the 22 streak, so one might favor a team that came from behind, like the '51 Giants or '69 Mets. (Both went 39-11 in their last 50 and made up deficits; Indians will likely do slightly better, but always were in first place.)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
2007 rockies finished 13-1 to force a game 163 against san diego (in which matt holliday never touched home plate)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
yeah, that was in the back of my mind... didn't the Angels blow a big lead vs Seattle in the '90s?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
it was '95, but that was more an Angels collapse (12-27!) than an M's stretch run.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
95 mariners were 12.5 back on august 20; they went 25-13 and the angels went 12-25 to force game 163.
nice run, but that feels more like an angels collapse (they actually had to win their last five just to get to 163, after a 7-25 stretch)
xp indeed
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
it would probably be rude to mention the 2007 phillies
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
that falls under Collapse and u know it
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
'78 yanks went 52-21 to force a one-game playoff
tribe needs to go 4 and 6 the rest of the way to match that, which seems pretty doable
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
so, really 53-21 :)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
best adjusted team ERAs of integration era pic.twitter.com/QgdywjJGrX— Jeff Sullivan (@based_ball) September 20, 2017
Over the Indians' past 28 games, Francisco Lindor has hit .352/.431/.750 with 11 HR, 6 2B, 2 3B, 25 R, 27 RBI and more BB (14) than K (11).— Jordan Bastian (@MLBastian) September 21, 2017
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
Show Hey O'TawnyDoes mainstream media underrate the Indians pitching staff? Fangraphs is the only place I’ve seen call them the best pitching staff of all time, even though most of the WAR says so
Jeff Sullivan
I think, in general, people don't have a great mental grasp of how pitching has evolved. When you think about the best staffs ever, you tend to focus on the starting rotations. The other thing about the Indians is they're so deep they *never* give the ball to a bad pitcher
For the sake of argument, let's compare the Indians to the Braves from 1993 - 1999That is, combining all those years
Braves starters had an ERA- of 77. The Indians starters have an ERA- of 79But Braves relievers had an ERA- of 87. Indians relievers have an ERA- of 65Maybe the Braves had more Hall-of-Famers. The Indians are better from top to bottom, because every pitcher on the staff counts
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 September 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/29/sports/baseball/cleveland-indians-chief-wahoo-logo.html
chief wahoo is going away! (in 2019) (and only from players uniforms, not from merch sold in the stadium) (and the team is still called the indians)
― na (NA), Monday, 29 January 2018 17:48 (six years ago) link
not good enough, obv
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
sounds like manfred has the right idea, though
But over the past year the commissioner of baseball, Rob Manfred, has pressured Paul Dolan, Cleveland’s chairman and chief executive, to make a change.Citing a goal of diversity and inclusion, Manfred said in a statement provided to The New York Times that the Indians organization “ultimately agreed with my position that the logo is no longer appropriate for on-field use in Major League Baseball, and I appreciate Mr. Dolan’s acknowledgment that removing it from the on-field uniform by the start of the 2019 season is the right course.”
Citing a goal of diversity and inclusion, Manfred said in a statement provided to The New York Times that the Indians organization “ultimately agreed with my position that the logo is no longer appropriate for on-field use in Major League Baseball, and I appreciate Mr. Dolan’s acknowledgment that removing it from the on-field uniform by the start of the 2019 season is the right course.”
not good enough, but better than nothing, or outright hostility (see the washington catheads)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
not good enough obv but i'm relieved that they are finally doing something
― marcos, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
it will take decades if not more though for wahoo to disappear from cleveland entirely. i'm convinced there will still be some dive bar in parma, oh in 2118 that will keep its giant wahoo light-up sign above the bar
― marcos, Monday, 29 January 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link