darren aronofsky's mother!

anyone got any other jokes that need mansplaining

Why did the Aronofsky cross the road? Because he's a fucking pile of shit and would have congealed into a big amorphous lump of turd if he had crossed via the sewer?

I like Pi a lot, and Black Swan was good - Noah was pretty silly but that was as much because I couldnt take Rusty seriously in the role.

I'm already hackles-up about this one though, because of THIS (which is not Aronofskys fault):

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-08/mother21-director-darren-aronofsky-apologies-over-newtown-mural/8885476

oh fuck lol

I know right? I mean WHO PAINTS OVER A MURAL WITH ANOTHER MURAL. What the shit.

mural gate reminding me that theres a mural of stormzy in dublin for no reason

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/an-amazing-stormzy-mural-has-popped-up-in-dublin-and-the-rapper-is-delighted-35576589.html

i hardly know her

The audience at my screening was laughing at the end. I think they were expecting a horror movie, not a trippy creation myth with a couple of jump scares. I heard a lot of muttering coming out.

I had an okay time. I kind of wish it had gone more extreme. There are a few gross and brutal moments, but I never felt really uncomfortable. Kind of how I remember Black Swan being. I was mainly impressed at the crowded kaleidoscopic sequences where it felt like every cut was adding something new.

I liked Noah.

jmm your experience was very close to mine. I liked the movie and admired its moxie but didn't love it

otoh having seen it, I find this take bizarre

Let's not pander to Aronofsky with the 'But what does it all mean?!' articles. I've got an interpretation: Aronofsky is a vile misogynist

— Another Gaze (@anothergaze) September 16, 2017

choice quote from audience member on the way out: "I was expecting a normal movie, not...that"

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others. They'd make a good poll, actually.

at a minimum, from the AO Scott review it seems like this will actively upset a large number of 'plexgoers, plus a nutty Polanski rip can't be all bad.

(I think I know too much already tho)

oh also that excellent CinemaScore result

ordinary fuckin' people, I hate em

it's incredible to me that William Friedkin's Bug is also on that very short list cause I thought of it a couple of times during my screening

I don't expect to ever see it so I spoiled myself on the plot/ending. In terms of that aspect alone and realizing film is not text: sounds pretty fucking boring.

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others

aw man i love both of those movies

It is many things but "boring" is not in contention. xp

Whatever floats yer boat.

read the spoilers and this sounds like the Hugh Jackman one with the floating crystal and monkeys

It weds the gonzo intensity of Black Swan with the grandiosity of The Fountain and (some of) the wanton cruelty of Requiem for a Dream.

read the spoilers and this sounds like the Hugh Jackman one with the floating crystal and monkeys

― 龜, Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:01 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hated The Fountain but this was good. Definitely more Black Swan than that one. Feverish, intense and anxiety-inducing.

Especially if you hate crowds

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others. They'd make a good poll, actually.

This, more so than the 60-80% on RT bar mentioned upthread, is what truly gets my interest piqued.

Visually, sonically, & psychologically, this movie was very compelling. The claustrophobia of the house, the constant closeups on Jennifer Lawrence, the nightmarish feeling of being unable to communicate with those around you & losing control of your environment... the lighting & Gothic atmosphere of the house & all its dust & debris & unfinished mess, all great... otherwise I thought it was pretty fucking daft and thematically shallow. Another movie about creativity and how hard it is to be an artist? Hard pass. So arrogant & uninteresting, & what's frustrating is there are sub-themes & tangents in here - fan/artist relationship; artist as deity & the one-way adulation & love between fan & artist - that are far more interesting than dwelling on how hard it must be to be someone's muse. A CRYSTAL? You must be fucking kidding me. And fwiw I found the violence & verbal abuse to be way over the top, gratuitous, obvious, & misogynist. He's a good technical director, but he should not write his own scripts.

A lot of the criticisms are the opposite of how I felt about it. I thought it was deeply feminist and Christian

Another movie about creativity and how hard it is to be an artist? Hard pass.

If anything, I thought this movie took artists to task! But then I've already seen a host of interpretations I disagree completely with.

It felt very much like "woe is me, i ruin relationships and hurt people because i must CREATE!"

Except that She had a very near-complete monopoly on the perspective of the movie (nearly half the movie is literally first-person!) as well as our empathy.

*Mother, not She lol

"Mother" is not a person. This movie had the emotional depth & subtlety of a political cartoon. Aronofsky goes to extreme lengths and constructs this visually stunning allegory only to convey profoundly dull observations about creativity.

Interestingly, I agree with most of what Rex Reed says here, even though I really like this movie!

http://observer.com/2017/09/darren-aronofsky-mother-worst-movie-of-the-year/

Polanski's Tree of Life

Reed's review makes it sound like it's a disaster, albeit an absolutely must-see one.

hahaha holy shit @ that Reed review

the funniest thing to me is that I left the film convinced that Mother represented God (or more literally "mother nature") - tending to all aspects of the home/world, far beyond any "homemaker" cliche - while Bardem represented humanity, with art standing in for human endeavor generally, but now I've seen at least one person suggest it's the reverse

This was terrible and boring for an hour, after which it turned terrible and interesting. The violence turned my stomach. I don't get liking movies that produce anxiety.

I loved Michelle Pfeiffer though -- she looked great and was commandingly brittle.

Lol @
"We don't smoke in this house."
"That's smart."

I didn't find it that bad aside from maybe the worst five seconds of the mob sequence, though I did just see Caniba a few days ago so my threshold is pretty high at the moment

also "Do you have any painkillers?"

I agree than Pheiffer was really good and brought some badly needed levity

Aronofsky gives the impression that he's never read a long book in his life.

This was terrible and boring for an hour, after which it turned terrible and interesting. The violence turned my stomach. I don't get liking movies that produce anxiety.

I do if it's justified. Same goes for violence like that. Nicolas Roeg's Bad Timing is a great example of that. This was just so intellectually barren & literal. "The Poet" give me a break

Nope. The violence offended me insofar as it was at the service of banal points about an artist's self-absorption. Conveying dread isn't a skill if what you're dreading is stupid. I was in knots waiting for the next act of egregious violence -- that's not skill

I agree with you, Alfred. I said as much.

I know. I did appreciate Aronofsky's playing with The Exterminating Angel tropes.

yeah! I was thinking about that, too. the house was very cool & imposing

Except that She had a very near-complete monopoly on the perspective of the movie (nearly half the movie is literally first-person!) as well as our empathy.

Same goes for Justine by Marquis de Sade, which mother! reminded me of. Doesn't make it a feminist text at all. Just relentless abuse in the service of... what?

hey Whiney's the one arguing it's feminist, I'm just not convinced it's misogynist

Rex Reed's review is the funniest but this is the most convincing I've seen

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/wjx8zb/mother-tries-very-hard-to-be-more-than-a-disturbing-abusive-movie