darren aronofsky's mother!

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I forgot about the Wrestler, that might be my favorite. which is to say I thought it was "pretty good" instead of garbage.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

The Wrestler was pretty much a movie by some other director. Not literally, but may as well have been.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

his movies have been pretty diverse! Beyond most of them indulging in one form of aesthetic excess or another it's tough for me to locate a common thread.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

beyond "obsession", I guess, which is 99% of movies really

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

as someone who thought black swan was hilarious i should probably be into this

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

his movies have been pretty diverse! Beyond most of them indulging in one form of aesthetic excess or another it's tough for me to locate a common thread.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Yv6L4DunPDE/maxresdefault.jpg

http://screenmusings.org/movie/blu-ray/The-Fountain/images/The-Fountain-363.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_OSaJE2rqxU/maxresdefault.jpg

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

Admittedly, I've not read or heard interviews with the guy for at least seven years, but surely Pi, Requiem, Wrestler and Black Swan are all half-decent films? He sure had his misfirings but I don't know where the hate comes from.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link

so...beards? more seriously I could see a case for squinting at the divine as a thread, but only in a few of 'em xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

lol The Fountain

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

Filed under misfirings :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

heaven help me but I like The Fountain

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

tbh if we polled his movies I have no idea what would win

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

I found Pi and Requiem actively irritating, the Wrestler endearing if slight, and Black Swan I think I started to watch once but fell asleep

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

I should see that, I do like Winaynay

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

er Wino Forever

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

Pi actively irritating, really? Did you watch it around the time when it came out, or way later and maybe his image influenced it? I find nothing irritating about Pi. It can not be for you, sure, but that's something else.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

I saw it when it came out. The ending, which the whole film is a furious buildup to, was a copout.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Idk it sucked me in Eraserhead-like, and by the time the ending came I already had my fair share of enjoyment

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 14 September 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

The new one apparently does not have a score, which is a genuine surprise.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

I thought you said it was scoring in the 60-80% range

Number None, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

musical score

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

I know :(

Number None, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

:/

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link

anyone got any other jokes that need mansplaining

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

Why did the Aronofsky cross the road? Because he's a fucking pile of shit and would have congealed into a big amorphous lump of turd if he had crossed via the sewer?

calzino, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I like Pi a lot, and Black Swan was good - Noah was pretty silly but that was as much because I couldnt take Rusty seriously in the role.

I'm already hackles-up about this one though, because of THIS (which is not Aronofskys fault):

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-08/mother21-director-darren-aronofsky-apologies-over-newtown-mural/8885476

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 15 September 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

oh fuck lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 15 September 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

I know right? I mean WHO PAINTS OVER A MURAL WITH ANOTHER MURAL. What the shit.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 15 September 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

mural gate reminding me that theres a mural of stormzy in dublin for no reason

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/an-amazing-stormzy-mural-has-popped-up-in-dublin-and-the-rapper-is-delighted-35576589.html

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 15 September 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

i hardly know her

, Friday, 15 September 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link

The audience at my screening was laughing at the end. I think they were expecting a horror movie, not a trippy creation myth with a couple of jump scares. I heard a lot of muttering coming out.

I had an okay time. I kind of wish it had gone more extreme. There are a few gross and brutal moments, but I never felt really uncomfortable. Kind of how I remember Black Swan being. I was mainly impressed at the crowded kaleidoscopic sequences where it felt like every cut was adding something new.

jmm, Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

I liked Noah.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

jmm your experience was very close to mine. I liked the movie and admired its moxie but didn't love it

otoh having seen it, I find this take bizarre

Let's not pander to Aronofsky with the 'But what does it all mean?!' articles. I've got an interpretation: Aronofsky is a vile misogynist

— Another Gaze (@anothergaze) September 16, 2017

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

choice quote from audience member on the way out: "I was expecting a normal movie, not...that"

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others. They'd make a good poll, actually.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

at a minimum, from the AO Scott review it seems like this will actively upset a large number of 'plexgoers, plus a nutty Polanski rip can't be all bad.

(I think I know too much already tho)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

oh also that excellent CinemaScore result

ordinary fuckin' people, I hate em

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

it's incredible to me that William Friedkin's Bug is also on that very short list cause I thought of it a couple of times during my screening

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

I don't expect to ever see it so I spoiled myself on the plot/ending. In terms of that aspect alone and realizing film is not text: sounds pretty fucking boring.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others

aw man i love both of those movies

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

It is many things but "boring" is not in contention. xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

Whatever floats yer boat.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 September 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

read the spoilers and this sounds like the Hugh Jackman one with the floating crystal and monkeys

, Saturday, 16 September 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

It weds the gonzo intensity of Black Swan with the grandiosity of The Fountain and (some of) the wanton cruelty of Requiem for a Dream.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

read the spoilers and this sounds like the Hugh Jackman one with the floating crystal and monkeys

― 龜, Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:01 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hated The Fountain but this was good. Definitely more Black Swan than that one. Feverish, intense and anxiety-inducing.

The Marmadook (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 September 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

Especially if you hate crowds

The Marmadook (latebloomer), Saturday, 16 September 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

also, this has joined the CinemaScore "F" club along with Solaris, the Box and a few others. They'd make a good poll, actually.

This, more so than the 60-80% on RT bar mentioned upthread, is what truly gets my interest piqued.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

Visually, sonically, & psychologically, this movie was very compelling. The claustrophobia of the house, the constant closeups on Jennifer Lawrence, the nightmarish feeling of being unable to communicate with those around you & losing control of your environment... the lighting & Gothic atmosphere of the house & all its dust & debris & unfinished mess, all great... otherwise I thought it was pretty fucking daft and thematically shallow. Another movie about creativity and how hard it is to be an artist? Hard pass. So arrogant & uninteresting, & what's frustrating is there are sub-themes & tangents in here - fan/artist relationship; artist as deity & the one-way adulation & love between fan & artist - that are far more interesting than dwelling on how hard it must be to be someone's muse. A CRYSTAL? You must be fucking kidding me. And fwiw I found the violence & verbal abuse to be way over the top, gratuitous, obvious, & misogynist. He's a good technical director, but he should not write his own scripts.

flappy bird, Saturday, 16 September 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

A lot of the criticisms are the opposite of how I felt about it. I thought it was deeply feminist and Christian

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 16 September 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

Another movie about creativity and how hard it is to be an artist? Hard pass.

If anything, I thought this movie took artists to task! But then I've already seen a host of interpretations I disagree completely with.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 September 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

It felt very much like "woe is me, i ruin relationships and hurt people because i must CREATE!"

flappy bird, Saturday, 16 September 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

I have always been pro mother! !!!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

Someday. Not soon, not at home. But someday.

flappy bird, Monday, 22 June 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link

I thought this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Like, Lady In The Water-levels of bad.

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 22 June 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

it was so bad it made me angry, but have already complained about it upthread.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 22 June 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

Admittedly my default w films maudit is to love tgdm

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

I thought this was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Like, Lady In The Water-levels of bad.
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, June 22, 2020 5:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was so bad it made me angry, but have already complained about it upthread.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, June 22, 2020 5:38 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ditto--but the idea that it has pandemic resonances has me intrigued.

clemenza, Monday, 22 June 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

lol i watched this film when i had a fever and it was still unconvincing

plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

i admire this film's dedication to being really annoying

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

imo aronofsky packed all of his good ideas into the fountain

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

finally saw it, it made sense (as has been mentioned) as a story about our treatment of earth

“He is God, she/the house = Mother Earth, babby = Jesus, etc. Environmentalist movie with biblical underpinnings.
― circa1916, Wednesday, October 31, 2018”

...is the essence imo.

I didn't hate it, don't think I will ever want to watch it again though

Dan S, Sunday, 12 July 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

^^ My exact reaction to every Aronofsky movie I've seen lol

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, 13 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

she was hot (joke about darren aronofsky's mother!)

carin' (map), Monday, 13 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link


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